Irish Times journalist Ronan McGreevy

Seems reasonable.

Meanwhile…

Gulp.

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26 thoughts on “To Be Clear

  1. Cui Bono?

    Does he seriously have no clue why we’re not taking it?

    Most of us are not at any risk of serious illness or death from covid. The whole covid scare has been a massive overreaction.

    NHS calculator here – https://qcovid.org/

    My risk is so low at only 0.0005% or 1 in 200,000 and these particular vaccines are not stopping transmission either so there’s no good argument to take one of these experimental vaccines with zero long term risk data.

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    1. Cian

      More misinformation? muddying the difference between serious illness and death? Quelle surprise.

      Using that site (assuming you’re an average unvaccinated, healthy 40 yo):
      Your risk of dying from Covid may be “only” 0.0005%
      but your risk of catching and being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 is closer to 0.05%; (one in 2,000) [serious illness]
      and you risk of catching and being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 following a positive test result is closer to 1% (1 in 100)

      Not great odds.

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      1. Nigel

        Well an individual might look at those odds and think they’re fine but societies tend to take a different view since by definition they include the entire spectrum of individual risk levels as well as the institutions affected by the percentage of the population suddenly getting sick and infectious all at same time. If you take the Margaret Thatcher view that there is no such thing as society then that might seem like oppression but I suspect if something like this had occurred under Thatcher her response would have been consistent with society actually existing, whatever it would have been.

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          1. Cui Bono?

            Seat belts are different to a medical procedure.

            Is there zero long term risk data for seat belts?

          2. GiggidyGoo

            I believe you can get fined for not wearing a seat belt. i.e., you’re forced to wear it under threat of a fine (or even loss of licence probably if you were caught many times). Before it became illegal, people drove without wearing them. Did they all catch something? Was there a pandemic?

          3. GiggidyGoo

            @Nigel Did you even notice the word ‘all’ in there? And you wonder then why people take umbrage at some of what you post?

          4. GiggidyGoo

            Did you understand it?

            As regards ‘stupid’
            Cian’s – yes. Your comments – yes.
            I agree.

          5. GiggidyGoo

            Talking to yourself there Nigel. Work away. Tell us when you do get over it. Mind you don’t succumb to a ‘face full of windscreen’.

      2. Cui Bono?

        So that’s at least 99%+ in my favour and you’re not counting that my risk of even catching covid in the first place is very low too.

        You’ve once again shown you’re suffering from hysteria.

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    2. SOQ

      Absolutely Cui Bono?- this hounding of the vaccine free is at best, disingenuous.

      Given that vaccinates cannot block infection, they can no longer use the communitarian argument or more likely, scream SELFISH at others. So now, it is all talk of hospital resources. the same resources which which were never increased despite obscene amounts of borrowed money being squandered.

      A questioning mind and critical thinking is now to be seen as a subversive threat. I deliberately use the label Covid Church (CC) because the cultural similarities to the previous CC are so striking.

      People have a right to make their own decision as to if they wish to take the risk of serious CoVid19- especially as the long term risks of these gene therapies are unknown.

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  2. Liam Deliverance

    I’ve never heard of this Ronan McGreevy lad, should we know him beyond being a hack for the Irish Times rag, if you read a few of his twit posts he comes across as more than a bit stupid.

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  3. freewheeling

    My medical decisions are none of his business.
    Would he do an article asking parents why they chose an abortion … making it public account, while telling them he won’t “pass judgement”?

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  4. hmmm

    The preferred term is “Vaccine Free”.

    You don’t have to explain or justify yourself to anyone who wants to “Un-” you.

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