Trans men, intersex and non-binary people can also become pregnant and may face additional specific barriers in accessing abortion services. We recommend using gender-inclusive language such as women and pregnant people in the Health Act. #abortionreview
— Womenscouncilireland (@NWCI) March 15, 2022
Many women and pregnant people are still travelling for abortion care, including those who are facing the devastating diagnosis of a fatal foetal anomaly. This is not what we voted for!
There are still 2 weeks left to submit to the #AbortionReview => https://t.co/Lq5PP64bB4— Womenscouncilireland (@NWCI) March 17, 2022
Pregnant pause.
FIGHT.
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They are saying this because the NWCI have been infiltrated by men LARPing as women and these men bully everyone who dares to disagree with their fact denying ideology and use terms like bigot and phobic to silence.
The NWCI, as a group is, morally bankrupt and needs to be disbanded and rebuilt from the ground up. It no longer represents women.
Objective reality needs a safe space from the hate-driven, covetous envy of Autogynephile males.
Are they not referencing people born biologically female though ?
Back to your Harry Potter books, JK!
Daisy you must have been delighted with Lia Thomas at the weekend.
Women betraying women, until the word ‘woman’ is erased.
I neither know nor care who she is.
What actual planet are they on..?
‘these men bully everyone’
‘needs to be disbanded and rebuilt from the ground up.’
Yeah.
Wow, we agree on something, finally, Nigel.
Well said, Noblelocks.
Womens council of Ireland clearly have no value for the founders of their organisation with public comments like “Many Pregnant people….. and Trans men, intersex and non-binary people”
NEWS FLASH
Non females, i.e. Men; cannot become pregnant………… mind boggling isn’t it!
To prove this point, I would direct you to the non-female species on this planet and you may find that most, if not all, cannot become pregnant.
A person born biologically female who sees themselves as male or non-binary can get pregnant though which is what they appear to be talking about here ?
No what they are doing is trying to hijack and control the narrative in the same way they have in Scotland and Wales. They are trying to erase women and even the word woman who are to be sacrificed at the alter of Diversity and Inclusivity, because if you’re not diverse or inclusive you’re evil these days.
This has NOTHING to do with helping women who suffer from actual, real dysphoria. It is as I said driven by the covetous envy of hate filled men.
You certainly seem to believe that but the tweets are clearly referencing people born biologically female.
I suspect they are trying to do the same with Gay and Lesbian too. It’s not acceptable to say you are either now apparently- only that you are a member of the LGBTQI community.
Haven’t run into that at all myself.
Me either.
lol haha
Me either…
True, it’s destined to eat itself & the sooner the better. We’re at peak lunacy right now, it’s going to start to receed, soon.
Lesbians have men who claim to be women calling them bigots for refusing to engage with them. I doubt if gay men will have so many problems, because it’s Autogynephile-driven.
I remember being at a Pet Shop Boys gig with the gay men in silver shorts & cowboy hats & the lesbians in white dungarees & shiny docs, thinking “ahh, such diversity…”
Great gig, too, IMMA Big Top.
To my reading it’s clearly an open comment that any and all can get pregnant; hence “pregnant people, intersex”.
Several Women’s organisations appear to have allowed themselves be caught up in this bewildering belief that all of us are female and non of us are female. What value it adds to their agenda is unclear.
That’s not my reading but fair enough.
An optical illusion.
These organisations have been infiltrated by men, all bullying perverts, who’ve been empowered to bully by this ridiculous Wokist Dogma.
They’re still women, ANO.
This. +1
If a person born as a biological woman wants to transition to a man then it costs me nothing to acknowledge and support their choice.
You might enjoy this read on substack from Kathleen Stock APants…
An eye opener on trans-activism –
https://twitter.com/Docstockk/status/1505953056340467720?t=bdUUHkNDXrZHImkE2PbVGA&s=19
Shouldn’t they be calling themselves the “People’s Council of Ireland” now? Or is this just 2D virtue signaling? Either way, a man can not be a woman.
In this instance I believe they’re talking about people who were born biologically female (I’ve typed that more under this blog post than in the rest of my life combined!) but who don’t identify as female.
If NWCI claims to advocate for “pregnant people” including trans-men, then their name is inherently discriminatory against trans-men
If it doesnlt bother them, why should it bother you?
Nigel wondering what the fuss is about. You’re a man Nigel, ultimately it’s not you or your sex based rights being erased.
This distortion of language is deliberate and this particular issue is just the thin end of the wedge.
It has very little to do with the tiny amount of women who have dysphoria and think they are men
If it does bother someone, Nigel, why should that bother you?
I don’t have sex based rights. Nobody has sex based rights. If they are a small number why the disproportionate hatred and fear mongering? Why is it OK to mock and bully them when they’re just trying to exist?
I’d like to nominate Nigel to tell the woman in the UK who was raped recently on a women’s NHS ward by a trans-person identifying as a woman that there is only fear mongering around trans issues.
And you can congratulate the NHS staff who said there were no men on the ward, and so no rape occurred when the staff were questioned by police.
You can do that Nigel.
Sure anyone suggesting a rape actually happened, and that it happened because of Self ID and a removal of sex based safeguarding practices is Only fear mongering… The transphobes, that’s what they are.
Sure there’ll be a spike in sexual assaults, but so long as the trans identified persons feelings aren’t hurt, these avoidable assaults are acceptable.
I am being extremely sarcastic, but the above acceptance of these avoidable assaults is actually an argument made by trans activists.
People like you Nigel.
So trans people are rapists now, and somehow immune to prosecution. You’re going to be shocked at the stats when it comes to cis male rapists and rates of prosecution in the UK, you poor thing. Maybe you should be nominated to tell this woman that her assault is now being used as part of a vicious transphobic campaign to scaremonger about trans people and deny them rights and access to health care.
‘Sure there’ll be a spike in sexual assaults’
Ah, yes, but you’re not transphobic fearmongering.
‘acceptance of these avoidable assaults ‘
Nobody accepts sexual assaults, and all sexual assaults are avoidable until they happen, but they only count, apparently, if a trans person is allegedly the perpetrator. I wonder how many trans people, male or female, will end up assaulted, sexually or otherwise, as a result of this ongoing assault on their right to exist.
Nothing you say there is even remotely a specific response to what I specifically pointed out.
Trans activism does see these spikes as something we must learn to accept.
This does not excuse other similar crimes as you suggest.
It is a point about the removal of safeguards, something you support. And you are clearly aware of the consequences of doing so, and it can perfectly well be said that you find these consequences acceptable when you continue to advocate for the removal of those safeguards knowing the outcome of doing so.
This is not fear mongering, it is a fact of what this woman has had of an horrific and wholly avoidable experience!
You calling it fearmongering, and all the other examples you’ve been shown, is just you putting your fingers in your ears and admitting to not listening to the consequences of what you advocate for.
‘Trans activism does see these spikes as something we must learn to accept.’
I heartily doubt you are speaking honestly and truthfully about trans activists.
‘It is a point about the removal of safeguards’
Then think about the safeguards, rights, protections and access to health care you are detrmined to deny trans people.
‘This is not fear mongering’
Extrapolating from one event to make an entire group of people responsible and force them to suffer the consequences for the actions of individuals is fearmongering.
‘and all the other examples you’ve been shown’
Selected examples to push a transpobic agenda, not an honest concern about safety and accountability.
You can heartily doubt if u so wish, but you have already seen the trans activist campaigner from a UK university state that there will be a spike and we must live with that, as I posted a link to the interview where the claim was made previously, and you responded.
I’m denying no one anything. I’m pointing out that removing safe guards is not the way to go about achieving health care for these persons and that they need to think of another way because this approach clearly does not work and is, as evidenced, puts women in danger of assault.
You very well know this is not just one example as you have been shown many.
Off the top my head, other incidents you have been shown links to include… the spa incident where the man got his lad out and paraded around naked in front of little girls – he had a record of similar offences. The assaults in women’s prisons by self ID’ing individuals, and so on…
These are not “selective”, they are demonstrable examples of how removing safeguards result in assaults. Your denial of facts and your attempts to dismiss proof only shows how far down a mysoginist rabbit hole of trans activism you have gone. You’re ridiculous idiotic denial is on full display.
Maybe read the link from Kathleen Stock above. You’ll learn a lot about what it is you are supporting and advocating for.
Ah, one campaigner made one statement wow, fair enough.
You’re making a load of unsubstantiated claims about the removal of safeguards and scaremongering about the risks posed by trans people.
Wasn’t the spa thing a complete fabrication? Wasn’t the killer declaring himself a woman to get into women’s prison thing a complete hoax that you peddled? How do you bring yourself to trust any of the stories pushed by transphobics?
The only thing I advocate for is trans people be allowed to exist, have their human rights protected and be allowed access to services and health care without fear of violence or abuse.
The spa thing was not a fabrication. That was a lie spread by trans activists and media like The Guardian last summer.
The trans-woman was charged in September over exposing themselves in the Wi Spa.
Get your head out of the bubble Nigel, you’re clearly falling for and believing in the lies and cover ups.
A trans woman charged either for something completely different or for attending a spa that was inclusive of trans women after hsyteria and hatred stirred up by karens and Proud Boys – white nationalists and transphobes.
Nope. Charged with exposure, a crime the individual already has a felony conviction for.
The legitimate reports criminals using Self ID to get into women’s prisons are a dime a dozen. There are loads of them. They are not hoaxs.
This is an issue created by Self ID advocates / activists like yourself who then turn their backs on those affected and shout ‘transphobe’ when they speak out.
The mother and the child exposed to in the spa are black…. Dunno why you are calling her a ‘karen’.
Are you dismissing the victims of sexual assault now Nigel, not just the spa incident but other reports in prisons and the NHS… Are they all ‘karens’ now…. You’re an idiot wrapped in an even dummer science denying ideology. Sad.
Were they even in the spa – a trans inclusive space, remember – at the time? Did they even see anything? I can’t remember the details but it was ugly, farcical satanic panic stuff.
‘other reports in prisons and the NHS…’
Aren’t trans people statistically more likely to be the victims of assaults? Or does that even matter as you transform them into monsters preying on the weak?
It’s always funny when you bring up satanic panic to make fun of something as one of the panics’ purveyors is now a ‘gender identity’ loon spouting nonsense about pre-verbal infants rejecting gender citing the pulling out of hairpins as an example of said rejection…. Laughable stuff. You keep great company Nigel :)
I transform no one Nigel. You just make accusations and ignore facts about the dropping of safeguards.
Accuse away, it’s pathetic, but all you’ve got.
This distortion of language is deliberate and this particular issue is just the thin end of the wedge.
It has very little to do with the tiny amount of women who have dysphoria and think they are men.
This is strategic, and part of a careful campaign.
That’d be a recognition, an admission even, that sex cannot change… I’ve been called transphobic for stating the same.
Proper funny that :) The whole ideology is full of nonsense contradictions and denial of facts… Laughable! Flat earthers have more cred than ‘gender identity’ advocates, truth be told.
The general consensus is that there is a difference between biology and gender- biology not being interchangeable while gender is, and I think that is only fair that such people be allowed to live in peace, as they choose.
But where is comes into sharp focus is competitive sports. The recent case of Lia Thomas winning over silver medal Olympian winner Emma Weyan, being an example.
All one has to do is look at the physical height and build difference between these two women to see that it is not fair because while being a transgender woman, Lia is clearly a biological man.
IMO, when it comes to competitive physical sports, transgender women should not compete because it is a biological competition only, and transgender women clearly have an unfair advantage.
Furthermore I think that such an ‘all or nothing’ insistence is actually doing ordinary transgender people more harm than good, because it paints everyone as militant- which in my experience, is far from the truth.
Just my tuppence.
Whatever about your views on the trans community, and I think we know where Broadsheet stands editorially on them, I think we can all agree that anyone who hangs around outside abortion facilities offering their unwanted opinions is a fecking gobsh*te.
+1
Exactly.
The post should focus on their campaign and not worry about offending some individuals for fear of not naming all margins of society who see themselves as different; which is basically the whole population of the island.
We all see ourselves as different to another, yet some feel their differences are more important than others…..
I love how you use the term “trans community” like they’re all one big happy family and they all can be represented in the same manner by a single opinion. There isn’t and they can’t.
Firstly you’ve got to represent the one’s who actually do suffer from dysphoria. You know, the tiny, tiny number of people who actually have the mental disorder that causes them to want to present themselves to the world in a different way or it harms them mentally. These people need to be helped and not given the deeply damaging “Affirmation therapy” from DSM5.
Secondly you’ve got to represent the mostly autistic kids who have fallen for the genduuur ideology bull that will destroy their fertility and will die young from taking wrong sex hormones. You know the one’s, these are the kids who only see one answer to their “problems” and get VERY annoyed when things don’t go their way (‘Tara’ wolf et al.).
Thirdly you’ve got to speak on behalf of the remainder, the Autogynephiles who call themselves “trans” so that they can play out their sexual paraphilia under the cloak of societal gay guilt and demand we all play their game. And yes, these men are the real problem.
There is no trans community. There’s just groups of vulnerable people being manipulated by AGP perverts who play out their fantasy’s under a cloak of societal guilt, who manipulate that guilt to control the media, silence opposition, erase women and sate their narcissistic, covetous envy.
Born a female…. honestly
Wouldn’t it be great if the focus would be on the Alts and Antis outside these clinics
Doing nothing but harassing people and giving themselves something to do, and rant n’ rattle the fundraiser for
the sooner they roll out the digital id certs the better off we’ll all be, or my name’s not ‘Citizen 5327965C’.
“Citizen 5327965C”??? I’m 5327965B
I think we may have shared the same birthing pod….
All I can remember is a big pair of balls..
They help me float
They’re buoys – in a Glasgow accent.
What we need is a war to distract us from all this…
Or a pundemic.
So we a need a ‘phwhoooaaarr’ to distract us then?
Now they’re just asking for it. The NCWI has always been a pain in the geebags, but this is acting like a Student’s Union. Cop on and build bridges sisters.
They’re leftie shinners.
Shinners aren’t left. They are a conservative Catholic cult.
Hopefully, they’ll live up to your description – not holding my breath, however.
No, they’te Woke, all of this is imported US Wokist dogma, the product of delusuonal emotional retardation & totalitarian Marxism.
You shouldn’t be woke after midnight, makes you all narky.
Now lads- no matter what side of this debate you are on- I think we should agree this is REAL inclusivity- one for all and all for one eh?
https://www.tiktok.com/@fetchmypony/video/7076558573802769669
Although the hens and ducks are probably a bit pee’ed off with the four leg rule.