Seems reasonable. Most sales jobs come with targets.
Mr.Ed
Selling isn’t ancillary to most sales jobs.
If I walk into a perfume shop, there’s a reasonable chance that I mightn’t be completely averse to the idea of buying perfume. If I book a flight from Dublin to Frankfurt, perfume shopping is slightly less likely to be the primary purpose of my flight.
…what are the rewards/incentives for acheiving/exceeding targets…always thought up-selling was used as an incentive rather than a threat…
jungleman
I don’t think you know the meaning of up-selling
Rob_G
‘Not getting fired’ is the incentive for achieving the targets; this is the case with many sales jobs.
jungleman
Yes, or the prospect of commission..
15p
they’re cabin crew, not sales people.
ollie
Interesting targets. 8 scratchcards would be hard to sell to passengers but the easiest for cabin crew to purchase.
Jonsmoke
it looks very fake to me
‘All Cabin Crew’ as an email distribution list? Really?
The Old Boy
Quite obviously so.
MoyestWithExcitement
+1 I don’t recall ever seeing any cabim crew trying to sell anything to a passenger either. How would that work even?
LW
Looks dubious to me too. Banner at the start, ‘everyday’ bold and underlined, spelling mistake, very very grainy resolution.
Spaghetti Hoop
Spelling mistakes AND addressing your team ‘yours sincerely’. If you were management-trained you would be motivating not threatening.
rotide
‘All Cabin Crew’ is a very plausible distribution list. Most companies have ‘All Staff’ as well as ‘Sales’ or ‘Engineering’
As to the veracity of it, it’s hard to tell although the quality and the lack of any names on it smells a bit off alright.
Bodger
Our source is extremely reliable.
rotide
As reliable as your sources on sandy hook and the marseilles truck attack?
As reliable as your sources on pizzagate?
Is it a similar source as the one thats suplying you with your forthcoming ‘big revelations’ regarding Crooked Hillary?
jusayinlike
Putrid little editor..
mildred st. meadowlark
Is it Mick himself?
Coz that would be brill.
ivan
and now that Rotide brought it up, where *is* that Pizzagate article you promised a few months back in a thread about the Tuam Babies?
I know Alex Jones has backed down on it. If you want to Bodger, that’s cool. Honestly. Even Homer Nods, etc etc etc, but every time I see an entry here from you, the Pizzagate thing makes me question whether it’s been checked out or not. I suspect I’m not alone in this.
rotide
*tumbleweed*
Daisy Chainsaw
That’s “performance artist” portraying the character of Alex Jones to you, pal!
jusayinlike
Ivan and his pizzagate fascination, and putrid little editor nit-picking as per usual
I can’t believe anyone buys those scratch cards? Really??
know man is an island
Ha. You are so much better than everyone else
jusayinlike
nasty commenter
mildred st. meadowlark
But not better than me, obvs.
Nigel
‘Ha. You are so much better than everyone else’
‘People who fly on Ryanair do generally be mingin’
Murtle
Sometimes if I have some spare change in a currency I’m not going to be using for a while I blow it on Ryanair scratch cards. I know I almost certainly won’t win, but the alternative is to stash said change in the back of a drawer somewhere when I get home, where it’ll be forgotten about forever.
mildred st. meadowlark
You are a voice of eminent good sense.
I found some francs in a drawer the other day. Gas.
Spaghetti Hoop
That is when Bertie draws you like one of his old French girls….
mildred st. meadowlark
;)
Bertie Blenkinsop
“Never let go” :)
Sheik Yahbouti
And the multi-millionaire scuzzball get’s even scuzzier. Is there no limit to the greed and arrogance of these people?
Paps
Fake News
Starina
From a brief Google search (come on, guys), it appears they do indeed address messages to “all cabin crew” but the rest of this formatting is totally bunk. The date’s written wrong, they don’t use that header and they use that irritating double-speak where they’re making your life harder but caging it in cheery language – not this direct threat.
rotide
I assuming the above the line formatting would be from the users own email client but I’m sure the IT guys posting on here would verify that.
ilduxo
sorry to tell.. but it is true.. with all the mistakes and so on.. this is pure memo from some base supervisors. I know I ve been there!
I would assume that’s why it looks as it does vs the format you’d be used to seeing on an outlook/email app on a phone.
(I’ve seen some crew friends post screenshots today on FB from the app)
wearnicehats
I think most cabin crew do 4 flights a day. On average there’s probably 125 people on each flight. Say 5 cabin crew per flight, that’s 100 passengers each. It’s not a massive sales burden
Talismania!
I could see a situation where cabin crew end up with hundreds of bottles of perfume and used scratch cards because they’re buying the products themselves to ensure that “further action” is not taken.
Seems reasonable. Most sales jobs come with targets.
Selling isn’t ancillary to most sales jobs.
If I walk into a perfume shop, there’s a reasonable chance that I mightn’t be completely averse to the idea of buying perfume. If I book a flight from Dublin to Frankfurt, perfume shopping is slightly less likely to be the primary purpose of my flight.
…and these are Ryanair flights. Short flights… a tough sell, I imagine.
Idk
People who fly on Ryanair do generally be mingin
You snob.
Tis far from gold-plated planes you were reared.
You must fly with them a lot to have actually noticed that.
Shopping and flying have been intertwined forever.
If you’re surprised at pushing a trolly down the aisle of a plane peddling goods, you really misunderstood what it is to be a cabin crew member.
Cabin Crew is a ‘Sales Job’?
Yes, well part of the job at least.
How are you surprised by this???
What sales techniques have you seen cabin crew display beyond ‘Would you like anything from this trolley of lovely products? No? Ok.’
But you accept that sales is part of the job.
They even put it in recruitment ads: https://osmaviation.com/job/tuifly-cabin-crew-sweden/
That’s not an answer to my question. Also that isn’t a Ryanair ad.
for the dedicated capitalist, though the fact that the employee gets paid makes the capitalist unhappy
its not a sales job.
But… but… Michael O’Leary should run [insert any Government department].
Again Broadsheet
Great header
Company has sales targets……..shock.
…what are the rewards/incentives for acheiving/exceeding targets…always thought up-selling was used as an incentive rather than a threat…
I don’t think you know the meaning of up-selling
‘Not getting fired’ is the incentive for achieving the targets; this is the case with many sales jobs.
Yes, or the prospect of commission..
they’re cabin crew, not sales people.
Interesting targets. 8 scratchcards would be hard to sell to passengers but the easiest for cabin crew to purchase.
it looks very fake to me
‘All Cabin Crew’ as an email distribution list? Really?
Quite obviously so.
+1 I don’t recall ever seeing any cabim crew trying to sell anything to a passenger either. How would that work even?
Looks dubious to me too. Banner at the start, ‘everyday’ bold and underlined, spelling mistake, very very grainy resolution.
Spelling mistakes AND addressing your team ‘yours sincerely’. If you were management-trained you would be motivating not threatening.
‘All Cabin Crew’ is a very plausible distribution list. Most companies have ‘All Staff’ as well as ‘Sales’ or ‘Engineering’
As to the veracity of it, it’s hard to tell although the quality and the lack of any names on it smells a bit off alright.
Our source is extremely reliable.
As reliable as your sources on sandy hook and the marseilles truck attack?
As reliable as your sources on pizzagate?
Is it a similar source as the one thats suplying you with your forthcoming ‘big revelations’ regarding Crooked Hillary?
Putrid little editor..
Is it Mick himself?
Coz that would be brill.
and now that Rotide brought it up, where *is* that Pizzagate article you promised a few months back in a thread about the Tuam Babies?
I know Alex Jones has backed down on it. If you want to Bodger, that’s cool. Honestly. Even Homer Nods, etc etc etc, but every time I see an entry here from you, the Pizzagate thing makes me question whether it’s been checked out or not. I suspect I’m not alone in this.
*tumbleweed*
That’s “performance artist” portraying the character of Alex Jones to you, pal!
Ivan and his pizzagate fascination, and putrid little editor nit-picking as per usual
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-25/clinton-silsby-trafficking-scandal-and-how-media-attempted-ignorecover-it
it’s not really.
Bodger promised one, is all…
Listen to rotide. He knows how things work in the real world.
As opposed to “all-users”?
Looks like confidential company information. Hope the person who disclosed this has been disciplined
Poo employers don’t get loyalty, babes.
Ah jaysiz – just grow up.
And social justice for all
Adults don’t reward people who treat them like crap, hun.
How would you know? Did one tell you?
Juggling devices lord snowflakee, banned to beat the band..
Your dad’s pillow talk leaves a lot to be desired.
This is an obvious chiz.
Hmm… You think?
Read some of these https://www.glassdoor.ie/Reviews/Ryanair-cabin-crew-Reviews-EI_IE6965.0,7_KH8,18.htm
I can’t believe anyone buys those scratch cards? Really??
Ha. You are so much better than everyone else
nasty commenter
But not better than me, obvs.
‘Ha. You are so much better than everyone else’
‘People who fly on Ryanair do generally be mingin’
Sometimes if I have some spare change in a currency I’m not going to be using for a while I blow it on Ryanair scratch cards. I know I almost certainly won’t win, but the alternative is to stash said change in the back of a drawer somewhere when I get home, where it’ll be forgotten about forever.
You are a voice of eminent good sense.
I found some francs in a drawer the other day. Gas.
That is when Bertie draws you like one of his old French girls….
;)
“Never let go” :)
And the multi-millionaire scuzzball get’s even scuzzier. Is there no limit to the greed and arrogance of these people?
Fake News
From a brief Google search (come on, guys), it appears they do indeed address messages to “all cabin crew” but the rest of this formatting is totally bunk. The date’s written wrong, they don’t use that header and they use that irritating double-speak where they’re making your life harder but caging it in cheery language – not this direct threat.
I assuming the above the line formatting would be from the users own email client but I’m sure the IT guys posting on here would verify that.
sorry to tell.. but it is true.. with all the mistakes and so on.. this is pure memo from some base supervisors. I know I ve been there!
That’s a message in the message centre of the Ryanair crew app (crewdock https://www.behance.net/gallery/24322989/Ryanair-Crewdock-Mobile-App )
I would assume that’s why it looks as it does vs the format you’d be used to seeing on an outlook/email app on a phone.
(I’ve seen some crew friends post screenshots today on FB from the app)
I think most cabin crew do 4 flights a day. On average there’s probably 125 people on each flight. Say 5 cabin crew per flight, that’s 100 passengers each. It’s not a massive sales burden
I could see a situation where cabin crew end up with hundreds of bottles of perfume and used scratch cards because they’re buying the products themselves to ensure that “further action” is not taken.