For Your Consideration: Jobstown: A Protest On Trial

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For the day that’s in it.

From Independent Documenteries:

What happened that day and why are 19 facing charges like false imprisonment and violent disorder?

Murphy among seven on trial over Jobstown incident (RTÉ)

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49 thoughts on “For Your Consideration: Jobstown: A Protest On Trial”

  3. Fitzitagain

    Who exactly are “Independent Documentaries” out of interest? Because I’m not sure they have the same meaning of independent as the rest of us.

    1. The Old Boy

      There is no indication on the Youtube account or any credits in the film itself. An Indymedia link* describes it as an “information clip” for a “Jobstown Not Guilty” protest held on Dame Street last Saturday. The link also associates it with the Louth branch of the Solidarity party, for whatever reason.

      *http://www.indymedia.ie/article/106136

    2. rotide

      Not independant in the slightest.

      Watched the first 10 mins or so on lunch and it’s like a fox news piece in it’s bias.

  5. Percival

    The sneering hatred of the working class in this country is shameful.

    They clean your offices, change your tyres at the side of the road at 2am, deliver your food to your door, serve your obnoxious coke fueled face in Burger King at 4am, collect your bins, separate your recycling, clean your streets, mind your children, do the small DIY jobs you’re too precious to attempt.

    But somehow you’re better.

    1. b

      i dislike Paul Murphy and he’s not working class by any definition

      you could say i’m an equal opportunities anti water protester commentator

    2. hieronymus tosh

      Honestly mate, I can’t think of the last time I met an individual in one of those professions that was working class Irish

      1. MoyestWithExcitement

        Yeah, lots of D4 student types do child minding and work in retail and do delivery jobs.

        2. hieronymus tosh

          Surely the hypocrisy of that statement can’t be lost on you as you mash away on that greasy keyboard in whatever grim little spiderhole you’ve found yourself

        1. hieronymus tosh

          Congratulations, you seem to have found yourself in the last bastion of the working class hero surrounded by kaleidoscope of hard working examples of the exact professions mentioned above, that’s convenient, credible and doesn’t sound like complete horsepoo.

    3. MoyestWithExcitement

      Not all working class people work in menial jobs to serve the middle classes.

    4. Rob_G

      Surrounding an old lady in her car doesn’t make you working class; it makes you a thug. I imagine most working class people would disagree with barricading a person in their car, even if they don’t particularly like Joan Burton.

      1. MoyestWithExcitement

        “Surrounding an old lady in her car doesn’t make you working class; it makes you a thug.”

        Thug. And you would have made the journey while someone from Tallaght would have not. This country.

      2. mildred st. meadowlark

        I agree with you, in that what they did was not… socially acceptable behaviour, for want of a better expression, HOWEVER at that point in time many people had experienced what was perceived as double standards and hypocrisy on the part of the elected government. Promises were made and not kept and continual cuts, along with failed supports for the working class and the ‘squeezed middle’ raised some very very valid anger.

        I am not saying that what these people did was right, but I do think that what happened was the result of the government ignoring the needs of their people, the people who elected them, leading to a huge sense of betrayal and frustration. Desperation makes us do funny things.

          1. mildred st. meadowlark

            In your opinion.

            Mine is clearly different to yours. Doesn’t make it invalid.

            And I’ve yet to see you make a coherent argument here, btw. Just inserting one word comments that denigrate the point being made doesn’t make you look intelligent, if you’re interested, it just makes you look like a troll.

        2. MoyestWithExcitement

          Silly Milly; assuming they were three dimensional, fundamentally good human beings who are as susceptible to their emotions as all people and were overcome with anger *while on a protest* at the sight of a politician who said people shouldn’t be protesting if they can afford smartphones. Don’t you know that working class people who get angry become heartless, subhuman thugs unworthy of empathy? Joan had to sit in her police protected car for THREE HOURS! Hanging is too good for these monsters.

      3. sǝɯǝɯʇɐɹǝpuǝq

        Dragging people along the road and stripping the clothes off them doesn’t make you a Garda, it makes you a thug. I imagine most working class people would agree that a sit-down protest is not a kidnapping, even if they’re all off they don’t particularly like facts.

    5. Happy Molloy

      Commenters around here are obsessed with class, it’s a shame we’re not still part of the UK so at least there’d be a formalized structure to rage against

      2. Sheik Yahbouti

        Harry, the class system here is even more ingrained than it is in the UK, which has far greater social mobility.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          We have people fully supporting the idea that these folks could be convicted of false imprisonment for sitting on the ground in front of a car that was surrounded by police officers. Fuppin right we’ve a problem with class in this country.

          1. Rob_G

            “We have people fully supporting the idea that these folks could be convicted of false imprisonment for sitting on the ground in front of a car…”

            You must be thinking of some other protest; the protest that this trial is about involved people surrounding a car, banging on the roof and screaming obscenities for several hours.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu42hhXCLUs

          2. MoyestWithExcitement

            They were standing up and shouting bad words? Oh my God! Lock them away for life!

          3. Happy Molloy

            If there’s no issue with banging on and roaring into a car then go into town and see how long you last by doing it.

            similarly, why not prevent someone from leaving a phone box while screaming and roaring at its occupant.

            I’m sure no one will mind and that there are on laws (there are) to prevent you.

          4. MoyestWithExcitement

            If I did that, I’d expect to be locked in a cell until I was sober enough to go home and *possibly* wait for a summons for a public order charge. I would not expect to face trial for false imprisonment. But this is Ireland and uppity peasants must know their place.

          6. MoyestWithExcitement

            A surprise sport is what the police were engaged in when they carried out *dawn raids* on people who attended a protest and shouted mean words.

      3. Boj

        Human race is pathetic with its class systems. Society is a house of cards and we are all just animals on an insignificant rock.

    6. AssPants

      F$%king brilliant….. very welll written Percival; really captures the social inequality which has ripped through this country in the last 8 years.

    7. Sheik Yahbouti

      Oh, Percival, you have it aright. It’s the mutinous disobedience that really offends. How dare they not knuckle down and do what they’re told?

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