The pro-life Love Both app
Aidan writes:
So the loveboth campaign have an app on android and google play, (less than 1,000 downloads on google play but anyway)….
The App itself was designed by ucampaign, who have designed similar Apps for the NRA and Ted Cruz, (guess who were consulting Ted Cruz at the time? Cambridge Anayltica…)
The Cruz App, Cruz Control, drew widespread condemnation from data privacy groups as it seemingly harvested vast amounts of personal info from your phone up to and including your contacts on your phone book (details in the twitter thread below)….
So we’ve installed the App, and had a poke around, and well for starts this is what it wants access to when you open it. It wants access to your usb drive. phone book and microphone!
Concerning but then you see their privacy policy, again this is more legal than technical but they seem very blasé about sharing and storing your data…
They are being funded by American fundamentalists and will use Cambridge Analytica to spread complete lies and untruths about poor little Baba’s being torn limb from limb
Was it not a Austrian called Hitler who was the epitome of the right wing who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of disabled handicapped Jews gypsy slavs
Its not just the pro life its also the anti life
Look at Facebook where the majority are pro abortion
Just because you are not pro abortion dose not make you a evil person
That remark is quite offensive and fake news
If you are pro-life you are of course not evil, just incredibly anti-woman, in my opinion.
So the strident opposition to repeal from middle aged men in particular can be hard to take
(I’m looking at you, 30 odd male TDs who voted against even allowing the referendum to be held)
well they cannot trust women to make decisions for themselves, it’s probably to do with their fear and loathing of women.
I’m a repealer and I have to say its a bit reductive to say they are all about loathing women. Some/a lot of them are also women. What it is about… is control. Thinking they have a right to control other people’s lives and decisions. They don’t IMO. The PRO-LIFE movement is misnamed. It is just an ANTI CHOICE movement. Worry about your own life and your own choices and stay out of other people’s beeswax…
@kellma You’re right, it is about control but its about controlling women very specifically.
This is a democracy and repealing the eighth is also a moral issue
Your argument is lost by your insult
And to insult me by calling me anti woman just sums you up
I am happily married for over 25 years and worship my wife
They way this is being handled is going to push the not decided into the reject the amendment camp by the full force bully mentality of the likes of you
You remind me of the feminist joke
Why did the woman cross the road?
WHY THE HELL SHOULD SHE NOT
Do we want to keep deluding ourselves that abortion doesn’t happen in Ireland? NO – women just get pushed out to England to have them.
Do we believe that the ”Pro-Life” movement and the Catholic Church cherish and ”love them both”? NO – decades of abuse of women in Magdalene Laundries and a septic tank full of baby remains in Tuam begs to differ.
Do we want to FINALLY give women the CHOICE to have autonomy over their own bodies and the fetus inside them? YES.
Man who worships woman thinks women crossing roads if they want to reminiscent of bullying.
I may be wrong but hitler never got around to the “gypsy” end of things in the end, he ran out of zeit.
A very odd man was hitler.
About 200000 were processed in camps into ashes
David – just keep on doing what you’re doing. Tis great stuff.
And that, folks, is the reason I never had a FB account. How legal is it for a FB user to allow such parties access to other users data? Richard Bruton was all in an orgasmic tizzy every time he opened ‘IT’ ventures and used the words ‘Big Data’ on numerous occasions to cement some form of greatness if these type companies.
They probably clicked ‘opt in’ to everything just so they could show their so called friends a photo of what they had for dinner yesterday…
+1 in a nutshell. All voluntary and avoidable.
they’d sounds like fit themselves if they dug around my data drawers
“So we’ve installed the App, and had a poke around, and well for starts this is what it wants access to when you open it. It wants access to your usb drive. phone book and microphone!”
Like thousands of other apps that people willingly download and have downloaded for years.
But all of a sudden there’s a concern?
Well, yes.
In light of the CA hoo ha currently going on. And because this is an app which has been designed precisely because of the upcoming referendum, it does raise some concerns. Will they actively try to influence contacts of the 500 odd people who have installed the app?
I would say it’s definitely worth looking at.
This is the thing though. The Cambridge Analytics story is being completely overblown and there were no such concerns when Obama used the same tactics for his 2012 campaign.
The actual efficacy of this is and accuracy of this is miniscule.
Nobody has shown that the Obama campaign stole any data or engaged in blackmail, bribery or entrapment so no, they did not use the same tactics at all. Given that, I’m not sure I accept your judgement on efficacy.
+1 Andrew
Cambridge Hadalookatya
Maybe face book decided all that info makes many millions?
Maybe Facebook needs to be fined
Maybe the same amount as they hold off shore dodging tax as in 200 billion dollars
Google makes more from data than facebook
where do google provide that level of breakdown on earnings?
(not doubting you, by the way – just asking … i know we’re all a bit tender after yesterday)
Why assume these companies do not trade data between themselves too? Pretty sure they do. But, up until this point it was all considered fairly harmless until Trump/Brexit and now it is finally being taken seriously.
There is a theory that big brother is not 1984 state controlled but actually private sector which in a way is worst because there is no controls on it at all. Also, I suspect some of these social media types are quite immature, they are certainly ageist when it comes to employment.
But did Google get caught out
iF they are doing a Facebook then fine them the same
Like every other android app on the market, it asks for any permissions it may need in the future straight away. iOS asks for these as they are needed.
The permissions themselves aren’t always nefarious. If you want to have a feature that shares your urgent pro life message for example, it will need access to your contacts. The permissions themselves aren’t bad, its what the app does with them.
It’s also pretty easy to change the app permissions, in android at least.
Who cares? If you are not a supporter of LoveBoth then downloading it and installing it makes you no better than a troll.
A bit like engaging one of those Amnesty International chuggers that harass you in Grafton Street and St Stephen’s Green and whinging out AI Ireland not returning Soros’s illegal by SIPO guidelines “donation”.
Android? Ha, ha…. get an iPhone.
And have you noticed that BS allows you to share stuff on Facebook?