…poor Mary…son out of the closet and into a same sex marriage…brother sexually abused by a priest that she had fawned over…and poor Martin thrown under a bus by the nuns before the whitewash had time to dry…
Tony
Why ‘poor Mary’ about her son? Has she not always been really supportive of him?
bisted
…she has…and admirably so…but she was one of the pillars that supported the church/state edifice and was betrayed once she had served her purpose…
Ron
In February 1984, just over four years after John Paul II wowed the Irish nation, Ms McAleese represented the Catholic bishops at the New Ireland Forum, convened by Taoiseach Garret FitzGerald, to find ways out of the North’s cycle of violence.
She was a 32-year-old lawyer and journalist, and her distinctive softly brushed-back hairstyle cut a striking feminine contrast among all the grey men.
The forum was just one of a string of committees on which she helped the Catholic hierarchy, causing her friend Cardinal Tomás Ó Fiaich to teasingly dub her “the bishops’ woman”.
jusayinlike
@ Ron..
She is a Knight of Columbanus, MDH is a high oath jesuit..
Cú Chulainn
I have had occasion to sit with many of the aforementioned Jesuits and they have always shared an intense dislike of MDH because of the gay thing.. I’ve been shocked on occasion, but I’ve always stood up for him.
Gabby
Wasn’t Mary McAleese a law lecturer at Trinity College before she went into television journalism? I remember she presented, in the early 1980s, an American TV documentary about a mysterious ‘slimming disease’ that had recently surfaced in San Francisco among male homosexuals. This a few years later was diagnosed officially as AIDS. I remember that McAleese after the screening of the documentary simply said that it should make us all think.
Tony
right yeah
Topsy
Mary had nothing to say when she was President about any of these issues, leeching from the state; or nothing to say when the ladies of the Magdalene laundries were shafted by the McAleese report. Suddenly she has gained a moral conscience.
Lilly
How was Martin thrown under a bus by the nuns?
Ina.
Interesting article in this week’s Phoenix on Olaf Tyarhansen and legal actions.
:-Joe
Anyone know if that pope series with that english actor is any use?…
I’d assume in the write hands, the life of the vatican mafia running catholism is a mine for satire, humour and a bit of dramatic gansterism tragic-realism…
Might as well have a look at the whole puzzle again in some way, being the week that’s in it…
-Or any suggestions of other interesting related things to watch?
:-J
Sham Bob
I thought it was a great little series, very eccentric. More analogous to Trump than the current pope, and SFA to do with the Mafia.
:-Joe
….Do you mean in the sense that Trump is just tumbling his way around the stage like a circus clown and he’s more remote controlled reactionary madness than individual machiavellian deviousness?…
How funny is it?…
:-J
petey
any posts on the two events yesterday in the US? if I missed them, please to let me know here.
Qanon is right on the money then, eh Bodger you sleaze.
jusayinlike
Not as sleazy as Bill Clinton..
Joe Small
Actually, he’s sleazier. Clinton had charisma.
Cú Chulainn
MMAL was the acceptable face of Iona, Opus Die.. one of the gang with her blind husband. Then the son ‘comes out’. What annoys me is that she hasn’t seen the errors of her ways, it’s just that the gang and her own family don’t align anymore. She’s not fighting for justice she’s just annoyed, and it shows. I’ve no time for her.
Lilly
+ 1
Topsy
Her nose is out of joint.
Ina
I’m not a McAlise fan, but it’s better to be accurate. McAlise worked with Mary Robinson, in the 1980s and 1990s, to have homosexuality decriminalized in Ireland. It’s a matter of historical record.
Topsy
It’s also a matter of historical record that for a woman with a sudden concern for all injustice, had nothing to say about the husband’s report into the Magdalene laundries – which was condemned by the UN. A total hypocrite is Mary.
Hi,
I’d like to be welcomed into your country with open arms
Here’s some battery acid in your face to smooth my passage.
Now,when you’re ready the address of where I can pick up some free money and a house would be most welcome.
Take your time.
Where are the women,you ask ?
They’re not important. It’s a man’s world where we come from chump.
ReproButina
“The immigrants are coming!” cries the racist son of an immigrant.
SOQ
Try and type something positive Oillie, You may need to seek ‘n peck the keyboard with one finger as the rest of your hands won’t know what is going on but just try eh? Just once.
SOQ
I am not by any means a theologian but my understanding is that ‘catholic’ means universal or general. If that is correct then surely the waving of the rainbow flag is not just acceptable but to be welcomed? Let’s celebrate this glorious and historical occasion by waving the the most catholic emblem ever created.
When she thought she’d be in for a Vatican gig
She was never done kneeling in praise n’ worship ov’em
n’ kissing whatever ring they put in front of her
And she wasn’t long changing her tune when they told her to shag off
And as for that Report she shares a name with
All I’ll say is herself and Martin were well met
Monaghan Man Ultan
Can someone summarize the Rosemary McCabe bit? I’m too lazy to walk up the road to the petrol station and read it in Re-store for free.
” You’re far from Hardy Ponti “
…poor Mary…son out of the closet and into a same sex marriage…brother sexually abused by a priest that she had fawned over…and poor Martin thrown under a bus by the nuns before the whitewash had time to dry…
Why ‘poor Mary’ about her son? Has she not always been really supportive of him?
…she has…and admirably so…but she was one of the pillars that supported the church/state edifice and was betrayed once she had served her purpose…
In February 1984, just over four years after John Paul II wowed the Irish nation, Ms McAleese represented the Catholic bishops at the New Ireland Forum, convened by Taoiseach Garret FitzGerald, to find ways out of the North’s cycle of violence.
She was a 32-year-old lawyer and journalist, and her distinctive softly brushed-back hairstyle cut a striking feminine contrast among all the grey men.
The forum was just one of a string of committees on which she helped the Catholic hierarchy, causing her friend Cardinal Tomás Ó Fiaich to teasingly dub her “the bishops’ woman”.
@ Ron..
She is a Knight of Columbanus, MDH is a high oath jesuit..
I have had occasion to sit with many of the aforementioned Jesuits and they have always shared an intense dislike of MDH because of the gay thing.. I’ve been shocked on occasion, but I’ve always stood up for him.
Wasn’t Mary McAleese a law lecturer at Trinity College before she went into television journalism? I remember she presented, in the early 1980s, an American TV documentary about a mysterious ‘slimming disease’ that had recently surfaced in San Francisco among male homosexuals. This a few years later was diagnosed officially as AIDS. I remember that McAleese after the screening of the documentary simply said that it should make us all think.
right yeah
Mary had nothing to say when she was President about any of these issues, leeching from the state; or nothing to say when the ladies of the Magdalene laundries were shafted by the McAleese report. Suddenly she has gained a moral conscience.
How was Martin thrown under a bus by the nuns?
Interesting article in this week’s Phoenix on Olaf Tyarhansen and legal actions.
Anyone know if that pope series with that english actor is any use?…
I’d assume in the write hands, the life of the vatican mafia running catholism is a mine for satire, humour and a bit of dramatic gansterism tragic-realism…
Might as well have a look at the whole puzzle again in some way, being the week that’s in it…
-Or any suggestions of other interesting related things to watch?
:-J
I thought it was a great little series, very eccentric. More analogous to Trump than the current pope, and SFA to do with the Mafia.
….Do you mean in the sense that Trump is just tumbling his way around the stage like a circus clown and he’s more remote controlled reactionary madness than individual machiavellian deviousness?…
How funny is it?…
:-J
any posts on the two events yesterday in the US? if I missed them, please to let me know here.
Qanon is right on the money then, eh Bodger you sleaze.
Not as sleazy as Bill Clinton..
Actually, he’s sleazier. Clinton had charisma.
MMAL was the acceptable face of Iona, Opus Die.. one of the gang with her blind husband. Then the son ‘comes out’. What annoys me is that she hasn’t seen the errors of her ways, it’s just that the gang and her own family don’t align anymore. She’s not fighting for justice she’s just annoyed, and it shows. I’ve no time for her.
+ 1
Her nose is out of joint.
I’m not a McAlise fan, but it’s better to be accurate. McAlise worked with Mary Robinson, in the 1980s and 1990s, to have homosexuality decriminalized in Ireland. It’s a matter of historical record.
It’s also a matter of historical record that for a woman with a sudden concern for all injustice, had nothing to say about the husband’s report into the Magdalene laundries – which was condemned by the UN. A total hypocrite is Mary.
+ 1
Of course we’re a broad church.
Welcome to our continent.
Much crime and skulduggery awaits your pleasure.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/22/100-migrants-storm-border-spanish-enclave-throwing-battery-acid/
Hi,
I’d like to be welcomed into your country with open arms
Here’s some battery acid in your face to smooth my passage.
Now,when you’re ready the address of where I can pick up some free money and a house would be most welcome.
Take your time.
Where are the women,you ask ?
They’re not important. It’s a man’s world where we come from chump.
“The immigrants are coming!” cries the racist son of an immigrant.
Try and type something positive Oillie, You may need to seek ‘n peck the keyboard with one finger as the rest of your hands won’t know what is going on but just try eh? Just once.
I am not by any means a theologian but my understanding is that ‘catholic’ means universal or general. If that is correct then surely the waving of the rainbow flag is not just acceptable but to be welcomed? Let’s celebrate this glorious and historical occasion by waving the the most catholic emblem ever created.
Give it a rest.
No.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/pope-francis-in-ireland/lgbti-choir-plans-to-sing-in-protest-at-wmof-event-37243253.html
Mary McAl
Sings whatever tune suits her
When she thought she’d be in for a Vatican gig
She was never done kneeling in praise n’ worship ov’em
n’ kissing whatever ring they put in front of her
And she wasn’t long changing her tune when they told her to shag off
And as for that Report she shares a name with
All I’ll say is herself and Martin were well met
Can someone summarize the Rosemary McCabe bit? I’m too lazy to walk up the road to the petrol station and read it in Re-store for free.
The Phoenix- Fianna Fail lite.