Frances is a friend, a mentor and an partner on important issues of social policy and progressive change. She will make a superb MEP. Proud to stand with her this morning. Please vote @FitzgeraldFrncs No. 1 in Dublin tomorrow pic.twitter.com/oCvHBKvpqu
— Simon Harris TD (@SimonHarrisTD) May 23, 2019
Steady on.
This morning.
Bebe writes:
They’re certainly pushing her boat out…
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‘an partner’.
I imagine it was something like “an ally” and a committee had to be convened to discuss whether that sent the right message or not.
I’d like to know the photoshop operator, quite the artist and worth every penny. Even manages to paper over the cracks of a certain garda srgt.
Harris is Fitzs’ protege. From teaboy / college dropout to health minister. And his success is on a par with hers.
His “abilities” are also on a par with hers.
Interesting that every single reply to his tweet is telling him to GTFO and take her with him. Heartening that the public haven’t forgotten her role in the mendacious and twisted conspiracy against Maurice McCabe.
+ 40 responses by mid-day and I can’t see a single one that’s supportive and by the looks of it, #mauricemccabe will be trending on Twitter shortly.
I’m confused by this post? Isn’t it normal for colleagues to go out canvasing for each other prior to these elections?
I’m pretty sure Leo is doing the same in another part of the Country.
Is this your first time on Broadsheet?
If you wanted to do your bit to prevent her from getting ANY benefit from your vote (transfers etc.) am I correct in thinking:
place #1 against your desired candidate & leave rest blank?
or is just leaving HER blank sufficient?
I stand to be corrected but is it not the better way to vote for every candidate all the way down and making sure that your least preferred is last?
There appear to be two schools of thought on this.
School 1. If the candidate isn’t on your ballot then no transfer of your vote can ever go to them. The end.
School 2. If you want to attempt to positively *stop* a candidate whom you believe has a chance of winning, you should vote all the way down and select them last. The logic here being that your transfers are more likely to elect one of their competitors on the way down the list.
Interesting. I never really thought about it, to be honest. My Dad likes to go along to polling stations to chat with the tally men — obviously that gene wasn’t passed on.
This is true except for one scenario: If there are, say, 10 candidates there is no difference between voting 1…10 or 1…9 (and leaving one blank). Your #10 vote is never taken into consideration.
Your school 1# is correct if you vote 1…5 and leave the other five blank.
Are you saying that if a voter selects a single candidate and leaves the rest of the paper blank, their vote is transferred to the next four?
No. I’m not sure how you got that from my post.
I’ll try again: (if there are ten candidates) there is no difference between voting
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 or
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 (and leaving the final candidate blank).
However if you vote
1, 2, 3, 4, 5
and none of your candidates are selected then your vote is not transferred. (which was your “School 1” above)
You wrote above “Your school 1# is correct if you vote 1…5 and leave the other five blank.”
That’s how I got it. What did you mean by that sentence?
I wrote “If the candidate isn’t on your ballot then no transfer of your vote can ever go to them. The end.”
Are you refuting that in some way? If you are, it’s far from clear. It’s also far from clear what point you are attempting to make here.
no – if you don’t indicate a preference after your #1 choice then none of those other candidates will ever get anything from you as you have chosen not to consider any of those other candidates.
Thanks, Iwerzon, but I’m absolutely crystal clear about that. Cian appears to be having some difficulty, though.
Sorry about the confusion Mickey – I was agreeing with you.
When I said 1…5 I mean that you vote 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
I give up.
Fine
it’s the last time I agree with you…. you’re more argumentative when we’re in agreement :-)
I’ve often wondered about people’s polling-booth practices:
I suspect than some percentage of the voting public put a number beside EVERY name on a ballot paper – even where they disagree with some candidates; it would be great to hear some statistics about this.
There used to be an instruction regarding balloting which ended with a phrase something like; “…and continue voting in order of your preference”. . . .which may have led voters to believe they should give a preference to every candidate?
It’s entirely possible that a percentage of voters have unwittingly enabled the election of a candidate for whom they had no real support?
I generally do this. It makes complete sense as even though I may not like a candidate i hate them less than others and want that to be reflected.
Transfers mean that unless you vote for a lefty (and green does not count), you cannot guarantee your vote will not go to Dear Frances.
One could ask: are any of the euro politicians doing enough to earn your vote? If not, don’t vote and deny them any mandate. Otherwise the only way I see denying Dear Frances (or any other least preferred candidate) is to vote for a loony left-wing extremist pinko.
Or if you believe it’s your democracy duty, and you wish to feel like your participating in making a difference in steering the EU and Ireland on a steady course go ahead – you’re in the majority.
“Transfers mean that unless you vote for a lefty (and green does not count), you cannot guarantee your vote will not go to Dear Frances.”
If you don’t give Fitzgerald a preference, there is no earthly way that your vote could possibly go to her.
Jesus wept, but I despair at despair at astounding lack of understanding around our not-that-complex voting system. The struggle that went into winning the right to vote, and people can’t spend 10 minutes to sit down and read about how it works…
bingo! @Rob_G
that’s exactly what I was getting at
but I’ll tell you now there’s more confusion out there than you’d think about this aspect – how to make absolutely sure that a certain candidate can’t get anything out of your ballot – negative voting
Oh sweet cheezus
At least we can explain the FFFG dominance
Their voters know what to do with their effin’ vote
Is it any wonder
she really does look like a Westworld robot who just ripped the mickey off a guest.
How long have you been having these sadomasochistic fantasies about Frances Fitzgerald, doctor?
2 months
She does look well in her posters, I’ll grant you that much.
she doesn’t. she’s absolutely rotten and completely unsexy.
Hey, none of my business, your guilty fapps are a matter for you and Frances.
Best comment ever.
Outrageous that we’re about to help this woman board the EU gravy train.
Democracy, eh? It’s terrible isn’t it?
It actually is, sometimes.
Democracy and short memories is what’s terrible.
oh for the want of a michael portillo moment
ooh ooh I want to vote for a middle of the road business friendly well quoffed granny..whos with me?
FG, FF & Labour get zero preferences from me and everyone else gets a very, very carefully selected, tactical preference.
I disagree with most candidates at any election so I usually vote for the least worst. I am a sneaking regarder of the SDs but beyond that…