48 thoughts on “Monday’s Papers”

          1. Tom J

            The word border can mean lots of things, but Australia doesn’t have a land border with any country.

  3. Hyper real

    Wont be long now don’t worry
    Australia has always been an open prison don’t forget

  4. dav

    should be rejoicing in their misfortune – our own lockdown could be reality soon – we should be grateful to the Aussies for their research in how transmissible Delta is.

    2. dav

      I’m sorry but it is. I have yet to hear of Irish contact tracing that has secured CCTV footage and pinpointed moments of contact that led to the virus spreading..
      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/24/its-in-the-air-you-breathe-what-you-need-to-know-about-sydneys-delta-covid-variant
      “Infectious diseases experts say a greater focus on airborne transmission is needed to manage the spread of Covid but they have warned against the use of alarming language when describing the Delta variant.
      The New South Wales premier, Gladys Berijiklian, has described “scarily fleeting” encounters resulting in Delta spread in Sydney after CCTV revealed two people walking past each other at Bondi Junction Westfield transmitted the virus.”

    2. Cian

      Want to know why I think you’re a conspiracy theorist?

      Because you link to things like:

      Inventor of PCR test Dr. Kary Mullis says categorically that “PCR doesn’t tell you that you are sick!” This is DIRECT! It cannot be more direct than this!

      He died mysteriously just before the Covid out break.. pic.twitter.com/3iWlfScGyi

      — Zaid Hamid (@ZaidZamanHamid) April 21, 2021

      “died mysteriously”

      He was 74 and died of pneumonia. Nothing “mysterious”.

        1. Cian

          your first link above. (cassandravoices)
          Under the title “PCR Testing” in the big grey box.

          1. SOQ

            That is something within his article- so you are calling Dr. Billy Ralph a conspiracy theorist then is it?

            Kind of proves his point now doesn’t it?

          2. Cian

            What do *you* think about that quote saying “Dr. Kary Mullis died ‘mysteriously'”?

            Do you think it is an honest statement?
            Where would you place that statement on a spectrum of “solid verifiable fact” to “total woo”?
            Do you think the author may have an agenda? (and what might that agenda be)

            …and this is just one example from that article of total fabrication/ totally misrepresenting something/ or using the British “Sun” as a reliable source)

            And for the record, I didn’t call Vincent Carroll a conspiracy theorist.

          3. SOQ

            I did not post to that link, Billy Ralph did? I did read about some time back and just shrugged my shoulders as I didn’t think it was particularly relevant- I never linked to it.

            I don’t think the point about how he died is what Billy was getting at- more that the Inventor of PCR test Dr. Kary Mullis says categorically that “PCR doesn’t tell you that you are sick!” At worst, it is perhaps a poor choice of tweet.

            But according to you Billy and I are now conspiracy theorists- is that really the best you can do? It’s mud slinging and not even very good mud slinging.

          4. GiggidyGoo

            That was some burn Cian. It showed up your approach to debate. Distract, ‘look over there’ etc. etc.

          5. Cian

            You put in a link.
            I clicked on the link.
            A webpage appeared with the bit I quoted above.
            Your link brought up that quote.

            Why link to a page and then disown things on that page?

          6. SOQ

            You are trying to slur a medical professional who is perfectly entitled to voice his opinion- grow up.

    3. Lilly

      ‘Next there was Italy, with coffins being carted away by military trucks. These were all carefully orchestrated publicity stunts’

      Really? Not according to a friend who has family in Lombardy. To them, it was all too real.

      1. Rob_G

        I wonder how Billy Ralph managed to get such insight into these events all the way over in Wexford…

          1. Johnny

            why do you feel so personally attacked and threatened by alternative facts,that you revert to ridicule ?

            just add your own from FG.

      2. f_lawless

        I’m not sure whether it’s right to frame it as “carefully orchestrated” but the way in which it was uncritically broadcasted by the world’s media turned into a form of propaganda.

        The impression it gave at the time was that the sheer force of Covid was overwhelming Italy and, with the bodies piling up, now the military had to step in.

        But the situation was far more nuanced, from what I read: The Italian government had passed a law that all Covid-suspected deaths must be cremated. Cremation is not a widespread tradition in Italy and there are only a few, small crematoriums in Lombardy. This created a delay in services. At the time, undertakers were refusing to deal with any of these cases, hence the build up of coffins being left for the military to collect.

        On top of that, the situation was apparently compounded by a nursing emergency caused by panic. Most eastern European care workers, who provide a backbone of support to Italy’s care system had fled the country in a hurry due to the threat of curfews and impending border closure. Many of the people left abandoned in care homes then ended up in hospitals which overwhelmed the already overstretched hospital system.

        A couple of weeks or so after the images were broadcast around the world, the Italian Health Authorities released a report stating that the average age of death was 80 and most of those who had died had two or more comorbidities. But at stage, any data that ran counter to narrative of heightened fear didn’t seem to matter much anymore. We now were behaving as though the virus was deadly to everyone and most of the world would be kept under indefinite lockdown regardless of all the destruction it would cause

    1. Junkface

      +1
      Ha ha! I was thinking something similar. Jesus, who got up on the wrong side of the bed?

      1. millie bobby brownie

        Dour, that’s the word for it.

        Incidentally – how do you pronounce it? We say dour as in shower, but I’ve heard people say dour as in pour.

          1. Paulus

            Ah, but there two pronounciations of whore; hore and hoor.
            Personally I rhyme with shower, but I’ve heard a scotish version which rhymes with hoor.

    4. Bitnboxy

      Lol @Millie. I had the honour of being called a “beeatch” yesterday by SOQ which I assume has been removed. Anyhow it did signal I had won the argument.

      Tis the Broadsheet way though and I am known to be a firey one myself: *waves* at my latest collection of stalkers.

  7. Madam x

    I read that article from the Dr in Enniscorthy. It never mentioned one vital fact.,, the high number of hospital cases both this year and last. He does make some vital points though. Control of the population by fear has been a learning exercise for FGFF. Expect more of the same tactics to retain power. They have been honing their fear tactics against SF for years, now they more expertise.

  8. Rasta Zeneca

    There are “luxury” homes in CityWest?

    Most liberal use of the word “luxury” so far today.

    Dump.

    2. Bitnboxy

      +2 If luxury is woefully poor construction, badly insulated, 1980s Georgian pastiche with PVC as far as the eye can see, then yes, they are luxurious.

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