‘Keep Staff On The Payroll’

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This afternoon.

Government Buildings, Dublin 2.

Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment, Leo Varadkar; Minister for Finance, Paschal Donohoe and Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, Michael McGrath announcing the expansion of supports for businesses affected by Covid restrictions, including the Employment Wage Subsidy Scheme (EWSS), the Covid Restrictions Support Scheme (CRSS), and the tax debt warehousing scheme.

Yes, Virginia, there is a magic money tree.

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35 thoughts on “‘Keep Staff On The Payroll’

      1. Sara

        It is. If you’ve a salary of 65k you’re in the top 10 percent of the population income wise (in Dublin).

          1. Zaccone

            Do you think you’re the only one in Dublin paying rent? Hundreds of thousands of people are earning way, way less than that and paying rent.

            Someone on 25k a year is struggling to pay rent. Someone on 65k+ is in the top 10% of earners – a very high earner by any statistical definition – and can afford to pay a bit more tax to help them.

      2. Hank

        That was my first thought as well. You’re clearly not renting in Dublin if you think people on €65K are wealthy..

          1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            rent 2000 monthly
            car payment 400 ( a car is NOT a luxury in Ireland)
            food 600
            electric 200
            trying to save for a mortgage with what’s left 500 / dentist/ doctor/etc….dinner the odd time out ?
            there’s not that much to play with
            * disclaimer this is an approximate of what 65 after tax 44.000 will stretch to,
            obviously it’s better than do many but that means standard of living is absolutely crap.

        1. Bitnboxy

          With Janet on this one. 65K is nowhere near a high salary especially if a single income household. Whether mortgage or rent (especially in Dublin) and with other usual monthly payments, one is not going to have much left of one’s net salary to save.

          1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            throw in creche, kids clothes, activities,
            you are never getting out of rent…not unless you move west

        2. Sara

          I am renting in Dublin. 65k is wealthy by Dublin or Ireland standards. It’s the top 10 per cent of the population. People on 65k pay less tax on their earnings proportionally than people on 35k.

          1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            I guess it’s all about expectations and hopes for ones future Sara…and basic maths

          2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            ok apart from me being beeatchy because I’m exasperated by people’s acceptance of the rip off,
            Sara, do you live alone ?
            Do you go on holidays, wear nice clothes, have children, ever want to own your own home, ( you’ll need z deposit of 50.000) potentially have to care for your parents ? If the answer to any of these is yes I’d suggest you leave Dublin.

          3. Sara

            Yes, live alone. No children. Pay for pension, private health care, holidays, etc. I rent. I earn above 65k. I am of the opinion that if the top 10 percent paid more tax, society would be better, free healthcare, national creches, good transport. You may complain about rip-off Ireland (and I’m not going to argue), but consider that most people in Dublin don’t even earn 35k a year. So despite your life being as it is, you’re one of the fortunate ones.

          4. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            yes, my point is I shouldn’t be ” one of the fortunate ones ” ( I never said this was my wage BTW, I’m just outlining the maths),
            In Paris the same wage gets you a MUCH higher standard of living, you can bugger off two months a year abroad for example and eat out all the time,
            at the moment crippling rents are stopping lower income earners from ever getting ahead or achieving security in their later years.
            I am a socialist, that’s not the problem, my problem is the exorbitant cost of living for very little quality.

          5. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            you pay tax and see it in health care and transport, here you pay tax and see bugger all

          6. Kali

            A wealth tax insinuates taxing people who are wealthy. If you’re on 65k you’re not wealthy. You could barely get a mortgage for a 2 bed apartment on that salary

          7. Fergalito

            I’m with Janet, 65k is a handsome salary but not in the wealthy bracket by a long chalk. Depends a lot on personal circumstances and financial commitments/outgoings.

            It’s policy that’s the issue not simply throwing money into the FFG money furnace. I’ve no idea where my taxes go.

            Plenty of people holding huge assets, worth enormous sums of money and who usually get a State sponsored diddy-wank and tickled balls when times are good and times are bad.

            No long term vision in Ireland, economy first and damn social progress. Keep the lid on, tell them what they want to hear and make it up as you go along. No reason why the social progress evident elsewhere can’t be moulded into policy here. Free healrhcare? We’re supposed to have that already aren’t we…

          8. Cian

            according to pcw a single person with no pension who:

            earns €65K; tax: €20,052; leaving them €44,948 (31% tax)
            earns €35K; tax: €5,862; leaving them €29,138 (17% tax)

            https://download.pwc.com/ie/budget-2022/income-tax-results.html?status=1&parentstatus=0&ageattained=35&prsicategory=1&grossincome=on&grosssalary=35000&pensionfund=on&tradeincome=on&welfarepension=on&investmentincome=0&salary3=0&remoteworking=on&remoteworkingspouse=on&covehicle=on&healthinsure=on&clubbiksel=0&otherbiksel=0&employerloan=on&submit=Calculate+my+tax

          9. Cian

            I was responding to Sara’s
            People on 65k pay less tax on their earnings proportionally than people on 35k.

  1. Zaccone

    Ah its Spring now, thats an interesting, subtle, change of wording. We’ve moved on from locking down just until January it seems…

  2. SOQ

    Translation: keep them on the payroll and don’t be bumping up the unemployment figures- here is some cash.

  3. Boe_Jiden

    We were good little boys and girls for the EU during Austerity, time for then to turn on the taps for us now.

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