“Ireland Would Support A Complete Ban On Russian Coal, Oil And Gas”

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From top: the Dáil chamber yesterday during the address to the joint houses of the Oireachtas by Ukraine President Zelensky; Miniuster For Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney

Last night.

Via RTE News:

Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney has said that Ireland would support a complete ban on Russian coal, oil and gas.

Speaking about Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky’s address to the Dáil chamber, Mr Coveney said” “Undoubtedly his (Mr Zelensky’s) biggest ask was for sanctions to be tougher, to act as a strong deterrent to Russia in terms of the continuation of this war,” he added.

Speaking on RTÉ’s Six One News, Mr Coveney said: “I think the EU has signed off, or at least the EU Commission has signed off on a strong fifth package of sanctions and we will hopefully confirm that politically in the next few days.”

He said that while there is a proposed ban on the purchase of coal from Russia into the EU, he would like to see oil added to this.

“I can accept that there are complications in relation to gas, although Ireland would certainly support a complete ban on Russian coal, oil and gas,” he said.

The minister added that he recognises that some countries in the European Union, particularly on its eastern borders, are highly reliant on Russian gas in particular.

Ireland ‘would support complete ban’ on Russian fuel, says Coveney (RTE)

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94 thoughts on ““Ireland Would Support A Complete Ban On Russian Coal, Oil And Gas”

        1. jonjoe

          I wonder was that in FG’s or even FF’s election manifesto?

          Surely a decision of this significance should be put before the people and voted on, either via a referendum or in an election?

    1. f_lawless

      I don’t know Kim, I was left thinking it’s a British toff effectively telling ordinary British citizens that they should get used to the effect sanctions on their lives.

      Now, for me, this speech from Clare Daly in the European Parliament rings truer:

      https://twitter.com/IrishInquiry/status/1511738299752321043

      “I would love for my colleague to tell me any circumstance where NATO has played a productive role or delivered peace anywhere. History has taught us that sanctions do not end military conflicts; they do not bring peace. They make the people suffer, not the oligarchs. The people of Russia, the people of Europe. And they’re not going to help save lives because the more arms you pump into Ukraine, the more the war will be prolonged, the more Ukrainians will die. Peace isn’t delivered by the barrel of a gun – it’s delivered by diplomacy, by dialogue…there will be a negotiated peace and this organisation should be promoting it earlier rather than delaying it and making sure that more Ukrainians die. Your feigning of sympathy rings hollow. It makes me sick to be honest with you.”

      1. Nigel

        ‘the more arms you pump into Ukraine, the more the war will be prolonged’

        So, she’s in favour of the Ukrainians submitting to a Russian invasion in the name of peace? Tthat’s the most realpolitik version of pacifism I’ve ever heard. Ghandi could get away with preaching that, not Clare Daly. From her it just sounds like appeasement. I’d have more respect if she was being hard-nosed about it – ‘Putin’s evil, nobody’s going to intervene directly because he’s got nukes, you’re going to lose, your unexpectedly effective resistence is giving everyone a headache and drawing the whole thing out and probably making him angrier and causing economic chaos, just surrender and be ethnically cleansed and maybe the atrocities will be minimised and Zelensky will get a quick merciful bullet to the head.’

        1. jonjoe

          Maybe you could get elected next time round and deliver that speech, Niggle.

          In the meantime Daly got elected with quite a lot of votes, so she has a fair bit of support, and I guess many of her voters support what she is saying.

          1. The Pits

            ‘Jonjoe’ me SOQ hoop.
            How many aliases have you up that wizards sleeve of yours.
            More Russian bots to argue with Nigel.
            Play to earn scheme going well so.
            Get thyself to Kyiv, sad.

          2. SOQ

            A new commentator name which will probably disappear soon, complains about other people using aliases?

            Some of is only ever use one name because some of us have no need to pretend that our opinions are any more popular than they actually are.

        2. K. Cavan

          Another moronic Strawman argument from Nigel. Sanctions didn’t put a tiny nation like Cuba out of business, even though they were in force for decades & still are, they will not effect Russia in any meaningful way.
          The EU leadership, which should resign en masse at this stage because of their utter incompetence, have effectively sanctioned their own citizens, who of course they prefer to refer to as “Consumers”, ironically.
          The tiny reduction in demand for Russian energy caused by EU sanctions will merely mean a slight increase in Russian energy available to the rest of the world & possibly a slight price cut for them.
          These unelected bureaucrats have no democratic mandate at all & certainly none to engage in this kind of idiocy. There are morons driving the car off a cliff, claiming it will fly & we’re all stuck in the back seat.
          Clear Them Out!
          Martin & Varadker, if properly targeted at the next election, could easily lose their seats, they have no mandate, either. The fact the media has whipped the mob into a frenzy of bloodlust is irrelevant. Leaders are supposed to provide leadership, not be just as driven by base, animalistic urges as the type of sheep that appear here with their silly, half-baked opinions.

          1. anti bot

            Go on chicken, answer: is it acceptable for a bigger country to invade a smaller country and kill innocent citizens?

    1. Frank

      These harsh sanctions it are in fact on us and indeed Russian miners and workers. Seems fair

      1. SOQ

        They are not going to affect Russian miners and workers in the slightest, because China and India is picking up all excess. But such virtue signalling will hit Irish people hard- as though energy prices were not bad enough.

          1. jonjoe

            Where is the alternative energy source?

            I know the US have offered their fracked gas to us, but is the capacity to deliver actually available? Do we have a terminal to accept their gas?

            And what about the gas up in Erris – how much is coming ashore, and where is it going now?
            Do we even have any control over it?

      2. Dinkum

        Like everything all the oligarchs have to do is just sit tight in one of many of their homes world wide or one of their yachts and they will never suffer for maybe a thousand years but the ordinary Russians of middle class income and all lover incomes
        Remember you can only sleep in one bed

        1. Nigel

          Ordinary Russians already seem to lead pretty miserable and limited lives under Putin’s klepotcracy, so your concern for them seems belated at best. It’s weird how much people complain about the horrors of the Great Reset etc, while at the same time, the dystopian model for the neoliberal future of unregulated capitalism, wealth concentration and right-wing culture war triumphant is… Putin’s Russia.

          1. bisted

            …one of the first things noticed by old people in Crimea when they asked Russia to administer their region was that pensions more than doubled…your survival from illness relies on need in Moscow rather than greed in New York…but there are sacrifices made by the Russians…how will they survive without their coke and big macs…

          2. Nigel

            Russian life expectancy is dropping. Most Russian men who die, do so drunk. Ordinary Russians are happy to sacrifice so their oligarchs can have yachts and mansions and bulging tax-haven bank accounts.

          3. jonjoe

            That was Yeltsin’s Russia, Niggle.

            Remember him? the man who broke up the USSR and destroyed the economy:
            “Yeltsin transformed Russia’s command economy into a capitalist market economy by implementing economic shock therapy, market exchange rate of the ruble, nationwide privatization, and lifting of price controls. Economic volatility and inflation ensued. Amid the economic shift, a small number of oligarchs obtained a majority of the national property and wealth”

            He also staged a coup d’etat by sending the army into parliament when they tried to impeach him.

            Putin is an unloveable character, but look at what came before him.

          4. Nigel

            How the hell is that an excuse? He’s had decades to fix things for his people, as opposed to fix elections and fix things for his cronies.

          5. K. Cavan

            In case you haven’t noticed, Nigel & I sssume you’re too busy bottom-licking the Neocons to do so, we live in a Kleptocracy & people in the West who aren’t comfortably-off, unproductive bourgeois parasites, like you, already live pretty miserable lives, so your suggestion, that they make their lives even more unbearable, to further Quixotic attempts to harm our fellow-workers in Russia is a reiteration of the fact that you & the rotten cohort of lead-swinging fakers you represent are nothing but a dead weight, dragging the rest of us down.

          6. Nigel

            We don’t live in a kleptocracy, but keep trying, I’m sure you’ll get us there one day.

        2. SOQ

          I can’t remember who said this but- War is a battle between slave masters. You can be certain that the people deciding to make these grand gestures will not suffer in the slightest.

          And the winner is- China.

  1. Frank

    Ha Ha the Russians have played right into our hands. As we’ve being paying carbon tax for over 10 years now and with that being sensibly invested into ‘renewable Green energy’ we have no need for this blood soaked Russian coal & Gas. Plus we have all that peat bog to burn…. Joke is on you Mr. Putin

    1. SOQ

      As above- the two largest countries in the world are quite happy to buy all excess Russia has to offer.

      1. Dinkum

        And for the past few years Russia and China has been putting in the infrastructure to supply China instead of Europe and also the Russians are building everything needed to utilise the baring sea as a alternative shipping route to the Suez Canal as now it’s not frozen over part of the year thanks to global warming
        As for the arctic Russia is now engaged in exploitation of all its rich resources especially gas and oil
        If they turned off the plug tomorrow to europe they have the customer ready to receive everything

        1. SOQ

          Which proves the point that all of this was well planned out in advance. Never underestimate your enemy- Putin is a Chess master and these fools are falling for it every single time.

          1. paul

            Putin’s legacy will be that he didn’t kill as many people as Stalin though he really, really tried.

          2. jonjoe

            @SOQ
            All the shills seem to think we believe the propaganda they pump out, just because like; or at least we will if they say it often enough.

            I’d guess that the whole thing was a long time in the planning, and when Dozy Joe became president they sped up the implementation.

            IMO, in military terms the drive towards Kiiv was clever, as it forced Ukraine to bring troops in to defend the capital – and the subsequent withdrawal forces Ukraine to keep large garrisons in the recovered areas. Which might otherwise be in the Donbass region.
            I say this – for the shills – without supporting Putin.
            There is a difference between evaluating how effective a move is and supporting the person who makes that move.

          3. SOQ

            And that is the point isn’t it? To in anyway even contemplate the strategies at play makes you a traitor. Except Ireland has absolutely no allegiance to Ukraine- at any level.

            And next up is the humanitarian card- ‘you don’t care’ which is 2022’s version of ‘killing granny’. There is always civilian casualties in every war but I do not believe there is a deliberate policy by the Russians to do so- that is way more the US’s style.

          4. jonjoe

            It’s also important to distinguish between support for Zelenshy and acting in a humanitarian manner to the people who are affected by the war. You cand do the one without the other (in either direction, be it said).

            I agree that Ireland owes no allegiance towards the Ukrainian state, nor to the Russian state.

            Ukraine has been a pawn in a game for a long time now. I would say that planning for what is happening today began in 2014 when the Kremlin’s man was turfed out.
            And that didn’t happen by chance. After all he was elected into that position, so it wasn’t a popular uprising aginst a tyrant such as happened in Mubarak’s Egypt (another place where an elected government was toppled with support from abroad).

            One other thing that I have noticed is the geographical similarity between the EU and fascist Europe in the 1930s, and the subsequent German expansion. From Sicily to the gates of St Petersburg and from Portugal to the Donbass.
            Sure, there are differences around the edges – none of Russia or Belorus are included, Sweden instead of Norway, some parts of ex-Yugoslavia are missing and Ireland is included. But in general terms, the map of the 3rd Reich and its allies is very similar to the map of the EU, given the addition of Ukraine.

          5. anti bot

            You’re the shrills. What a bigger country invading a smaller one? Killing innocent people? Ah go one answer chicken poo nordies.

          6. anti bot

            Ah go on answer, I dare you to grow a pair. You are on here all day and night defending innocent people being killed, yet can never reply when being called out?

          7. SOQ

            Just look at Hungary? One day after Viktor Orban won, the EU launched a never used ‘rule of law’ which will stop EU funds from reaching Hungary.

            In effect, sections because they didn’t like the government that the Hungarian people elected.

          8. K. Cavan

            I’m sure that you, Nigel are as familiar as the rest of us with America’s methodology when it decides on “Regime Change” in countries unlucky enough to fall under its merciless gaze but how, exactly, do you know how Russia behaves, when they don’t exhibit anything even remotely resembling the USA’s bloodlust?
            Your media-created fantasies don’t count as actual history, you know? We’ve all witnessed the horrific televisual spectaculars of America’s Wars of Destruction, over & over & over again & some of us, who are not authoritarian neocons like you, don’t lend unquestioning support to their inutterable, base savagery.

          9. The Pits

            That’s some pretty fast log in switching there old man or have you fashioned up a crafty dual device system? Devious scamp.
            Mirror, mirror on the Dee Wall who is the SOQEST of them all….

          10. K. Cavan

            I understand you may be too dim to actually realise this, Paul but Putin will never catch up any recent US President, apart from Trump, if you’re counting dead bodies.

          11. Nigel

            Amazing how Russia’s military history fades into invisiblity when taking about a Russian invasion.

          12. Nigel

            ‘if you’re counting dead bodies.’

            What dead bodies there are no dead bodies those are fake dead bodies if they’re real they were put there by the CIA or killed by Ukrainians or White Helmets anyone who says otherwise can go to jail or meet with an accident or be denazified.

      2. stephen moran

        I’ll think you find your sweeping generalizations about Chinese and Indian demand replacing the west seamlessly are are then think again – they wholly incorrect and show a profound misunderstanding of the dynamics of oil supply and demand. Russian storage capacity is virtually full because they are having extreme difficulty shifting the stuff even at massive discounts – if you can’t store it you can’t pump anymore – secondly the need for maintenance will start to kick in and hit i.e. the lack of imported spares and the absence of western oil servicing companies will impact supply very quickly – companies are also loathe to buy because of the chance of third party sanctions (i.e. it isn’t worth the risk even at massive discounts). Ural crude also has a high metal content and is difficult to refine i.e. it can’t be done in Indian refineries – that’s why they only import 1-2% presently

        India will buy minimum crude volume that’s needed to show their friend (Russia) as a reliable strategic partner. Not more or not less irrespective of price. It’s far easier for them to buy Iranian crude in terms of transport (which they have been doing)

        1. K. Cavan

          Holy crap, stephen, does your anal spinchter not tire of being used as a means of communicating the idiotic notions that enter your head?
          The economic theories that underscore perfect markets are taught in first year economics, in secondary school, yet you haven’t the slightest grasp of these simple principles. Structural problems only ever have short-term consequences.
          Whatever about India, China prefers Russian crude, it produces the oil they need for the machinery of the world’s factories, which are, in case you haven’t noticed, mostly under the control of the CCP.
          Days ago, the Chinese reiterated the “unlimited” nature of their alliance with Russia, in a statement that pinned the blame for this conflict squarely on America.
          The biggest manufacturer of goods on the planet has, in concert with almost 90% of all nations, turned their back on this insignificant corner of the world we call The West, as we scuttle ourselves, to provide meaningless moral support to a defeated, divided country that was bound to split in two, sooner or later.
          The unfortunate Ukrainians who’ve sought refuge in our countries will soon learn they just boarded a sinking lifeboat, where they will be taught to recite the 150 genders, like some sort of demented prayer, as the water pours in.

          1. The Pits

            I hope you have managed to LGBTQIA+ proof your hovel Cavan, they are coming to get cha, coming to get cha, spitting out pronouns homeboy they’ll wet cha. (the anal sphincter you speak of that is) d to the o to the p to the e

          2. stephen moran

            There is no such thing as perfectly seamless markets – they are a wet dream of neo classical economists as I said above – i was pointing out the realities – its others here who deals in “airy fairy” theory knowing the square root of minus 1 about how things actually work – having spoken to a few authorities on the subject who actually trade energy commodities I can assure you this is what is happening and will continue to happen for years – just as EU countries are continuing to pay Gazprom in € as i predicted.

    2. Dinkum

      Great thinking Einstein
      The problem is it’s going to take at least 2 years
      Meanwhile power cuts and sky high prices plus job losses due to reduction of industrial output
      But you can always ride around on your bike
      Unfortunately for the peat bogs
      The power stations have been decommissioned and it will take a long time to reopen them and then the question of if the EU will allow us to do so

    3. jonjoe

      Do you realise that turf-harvesting by BNM has been outlawed, and our briquettes now come from Russia (via Estonia, IIRC)

  2. Nigel

    I support this myself, but without a major drive to replace fossil fuels with alternatives, it’ll end up being austerity warfare, with energy prices rising and at the same time, mysteriously, energy profits and dividends rising too, which is exactly what you can expect from this lot. Its going to be that in the short term at best, anyway, because NOBODY BLOODY LISTENED.

    1. Clampers Outside

      Mysteriously…

      If u think that is mysterious, I’d recommend a course in Economics for Dummies.

          1. stephen moran

            ah Mr. NG in pass LC Economics – with his incredibly original jibes – a yawnfest

    2. K. Cavan

      Renewables will never, ever replace carbon in a carbon-based economy, Nigel. That’s a schoolgirl fantasy promoted, of course, by a schoolgirl.
      The carbon footprint of renewables is already far too high to justify their manufacture & use, without massive taxpayer-funded subsidies & the current Green Energy Con is all about grabbing as much of this free taxpayer loot as possible, while the going’s good, not about any serious attempt to replace fossil fuels.
      It’s a Con & you’re the Mark.

        1. K. Cavan

          So, that’s your actual answer, to claim I work for a fossil fuel company? Even by your bottom-feeding standards, Nigel, that is pathetic.
          Trillions have been invested into renewables & what have we got in return? 7% of our energy supplies, when the wind blows & the sun shines, along with landfills full of non-recyclable compound plastics, leaking toxic chemicals into our water supply.
          Ironically, the push for Green Energy is a short-sighted gold-rush.

          1. Nigel

            Work for them? Don’t be stupid. You clearly do this for free.

            Trillions, really? That sounds more like the amount we subsidise fossil fuels for poisoning the planet and wrecking the weather. Current spend on Green energy is a peanuts, especially by comparison. Fossil fuel companies have probably spent more supressing climate change science, spreading disinformation, and lobbying and waging lawfare against climate change measures than anyobody has spent on Green energy to date.

            And you’re doing this for free. Sucker.

    1. GiggidyGoo

      I see the picture is ‘Camels Head Gate’. I wonder did they enter by that gate, or one lower down – the toe perhaps?

    2. K. Cavan

      Every moron who’s fallen for the Clean, Green Energy marketing scam is a Sucker, ce.

  3. Mr. T

    We get most of our oil from international markets – EU embargo on Russian oil will send market skyrocketing, and increase the demand for non-Russian oils, which may lead to shortages here as we will be competing (along with rest of EU) for an ever diminishing portion of the market.

    If only we had some oil & gas fields of our own – oh wait we do, and Minister for Environment Eamon Ryan refuses to take calls from the would be drillers and approve the extraction. Better cycling bikes 100km to work and growing lettuce to feed the family.

    1. Rob_G

      It’s as if a person were somehow genetically-engineered from audio tapes of the Adrian Kennedy phoneshow…

      1. K. Cavan

        Nobody knows who this Kennedy guy is, Rob. Try a more universal reference, next time or just don’t bother.

    1. Frank

      A good question Gavin.
      Now is the time to find out exactly where from and what source the electricity powering Eamon Ryans’ electric bike comes from

    2. SOQ

      It is just not going to happen because a 40% reduction in gas to Germany would cripple the place- and they call the shots.

      Even that clown speaking to Irish Parliament served no purpose because Ireland is not part of NATO- and there is not a snowball’s chance in hell of them being fast tracked into the EU.

        1. Duncan Wheeler

          Insulting person makes gleeful error.. The United Nations Security Council is not the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.

          1. johnny

            try harder captain stating the bleeding obvious.
            your new bestie appears confused as to the purpose of ‘that clown’.
            it’s just great the way all the slow trolls stick together,misery needs company.

    1. K. Cavan

      I’d say they had to put on extra staff in the Dail Bar & in the restaurant. The busiest taxpayer-subsidised trough in existence.
      If only the call “Time please” by the bar manager had been delivered by the electorate.
      We need these jokers gone, they serve a plethora of Globalist organisations & interests, not the nation, they are nothing but a real & present danger to the Irish people.

    1. The Pits

      Potato SOQ stew for lunch is it. Don’t ruin your shirt for mass on Sunday, I believe croquettes are on the afternoon menu. Spoilt you will be.

  4. SOQ

    Sit back and watch Europe commit suicide By Pepe Escobar

    If the US goal is to crush Russia’s economy with sanctions and isolation, why is Europe in an economic free fall instead?

    “The whole Ukraine issue is over hypersonic missiles that can reach Moscow in less than four minutes. The US wants them there, in Poland, Romania, Baltic States, Sweden, Finland. This is in direct violation of the agreements in 1991 that NATO will not expand in Eastern Europe. The US does not have hypersonic missiles now but should – in a year or two. This is an existential threat to Russia. So they had to go into the Ukraine to stop this. Next will be Poland and Romania where launchers have been built in Romania and are being built in Poland.”

    https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/8853

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