Meanwhile, In Cairo


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Halawa on hunger strike in Egyptian prison (RTE, August 18, 2014)

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97 thoughts on “Meanwhile, In Cairo

    1. Llareggub

      Realistically, what do YOU think little old Ireland can do here? Do you think we should send Frances Fitzgerald out to Cairo to negotiate. Sadly, I think Ibrahim’s family are well aware that he did not go out there to visit the pyramids.

      1. Mr. T.

        He went to visit family like most people tend to do when they have family overseas.

        But because he’s Muslim, the Irish government and many Irish people don’t really care that he’s an Irish citizen. They cared more about a convicted drug smuggler in Peru.

        1. skbac

          He was a muslim brotherhood activist, not some poor auld tourist who was lifted while out buying milk or something.

          1. Llareggub

            Yes, I wish people would stop pretending that the Halawas were innocents abroad. It’s a crock.

          1. will-billy

            because he is an Irish citizen and as such entitled to diplomatic support. give up your ad hominem bs and have a prosecutor bring a case when he comes home if he has broken any of our laws.

          2. rotide

            The widely held opinion of the peruvian drug mules was that they broke the law in peru and as such should be tried and sentenced in Peru.

            This guy should get different treatment?

          3. will-billy

            in fact after concerted diplomatic efforts at least one of them is serving time in a jail in Ireland. What crime has this man committed Closeau?

    2. Odis

      Basically, because his father is a big wheel in this organisation.

      Which sounds, alright on paper, in Wikipedia. but I believe one of the central pillars of their philosophy, is who needs democracy, when you have Islam.

      They also tend to be financed by Quatar. the same money that helped liberate parts of Syria and Iraq to less than benign regime that is ISIS.

      So no, he might not have been in Egypt, to see the pyramids and ride a camel.

        1. rotide

          Harbo, Waters, Most of RTE, The Irish Times, Any member of the clergy, Terry Prone.

          All these people recieve the same treatment and they didn’t travel across the world to support a fundamentalist regime.

        2. Odis

          Hell no. And I’m glad you asked. I think this Irish citizen, has been wrongly accused by the vicious and vile authorities of a criminal foreign regime. To suggest he was involved in subversion, is an affront to human rights as well as common sense.

          Irish citizens should be given international “Get out of Jail Free” cards or some such, as recognition of what throughly decent people we are.

      1. Tom

        Can you tell the difference between American, Saudi and qatarian money’s?
        All of which have been used to ‘liberate’ areas of Syria now in ISIS control.
        See, here’s the thing .. ISIS are clearly a Saudi project. The Qatarian funds were to back a slightly less bloodthirsty faction. But the Saudi (/American) funds were far more

    3. C Sharp

      As correctly referred to here, he was protesting on behalf of MB.
      Their father is a leading Muslim cleric in Ireland, and one you could definitely say was on conservative side of the fence. Allegedly he is a Muslim Brotherhood supporter.

      MB was the group oustered from power in the Egyptian counter revolution last year, and he went over to protest that ouster.

      The army allegedly murdered over 1000 MB supporters at the time. (resisting bad taste nerd humour here).
      Whatever your feelings about MB, I’m not a fan personally, to say the least, their put down was far from democratic.

      MB were allegedly trying to forge an exclusionary, oppressive constitution, which is why the army say they acted. They are a zillion miles from being anything like ISIS however, even if ISIS, like many other jihadi groups, have certain ideological roots in the writings of MB’s founder.

      I don’t think you could say he has done anything to relinquish his rights to the protection of the state, but he put himself in a very precarious position with the Egyptian regime, that is for sure, one which makes Irish advocacy on his behalf very difficult indeed.

      1. Llareggub

        Also, why isn’t Daddy Halawa over in Cairo trying to help his son? Happy to send him out there to protest while he runs the Mosque in Clonskeagh. I feel sorry for Ibrahim – I believe his father has sacrificed him.

          1. Llareggub

            Sort of I guess. The Bible, the Koran and all holy books should be treated as the works of creative fiction they are. As long as people are dying in the name of religion I have no time for any of it.

          2. Mani

            Ibrahim = Abraham. Who was asked by god to sacrifice his only son Isaac. O god! You whacky prankster!

          3. will-billy

            gotcha! you’ve used your loaf on that one yet I think you are on a fishing expedition of some sort

        1. will-billy

          MB has nothing to do with the principle that this young lad should get diplomatic support irrespective of whether his guilt is proven, which if it is, could see him serving his sentence here for instance. Generally I find your commentary asinine btw.

    4. Original Cynical

      Why did his parents allow him to travel abroad to an extremely volatile country at 17?

    5. Llareggub

      From the Dept. of Justice and Equality

      “Officials from our Embassy in Cairo – including the Irish Ambassador – have visited Ibrahim over twenty times in the past year. They have also taken every opportunity to raise his case with the Egyptian authorities.

        1. will-billy

          so it appears ‘little old Ireland’ can do quite a lot after all? what a total fool you are.

          1. Twunt

            you obviously do not understand politician speak, this is the important bit:
            “Clearly, Ireland cannot interfere with the judicial process in Egypt”

            it means he can rot where he is.

  1. KirkenBrenner

    Ah yeah, sure the Irish Rangers will be mobilised and Squee himself will lead a black-ops style mission to bring back this model Irish citizen. He can get a spot on the Late Late to tell us how totally innocent he is and stuff.

    Fupp off.

      1. Twunt

        yes he is jealous of a guy who is in prison and deservedly getting horse whipped every day.

        Maybe it is all part of Allah’s plan to knock some sense into the little prick.

        1. will-billy

          it would appear so yes. so jealous of diplomatic efforts to allay concerns over the welfare of the son of a prominent Muslim citizen that you feel compelled to publicly attack a 17 year lad? sorry for you that you are clearly an ignored nobody trolling, but we are all equal under the law

          1. Twunt

            ” but we are all equal under the law”

            unless we are doing something in the name of Allah, then the law of the land no longer applies.

          2. KirkenBrenner

            Ignored? Sure doesn’t look like it.

            Yep, we’re all equal indeed. And we’ll all be punished equally when we’re getting involved in dodgy activities abroad. Glad you agree, champ.

      2. Mick

        Wow silly-willy, can´t take criticism? Why do you get so defensive? You know what they say about people who always get defensive right?
        Maybe he was inspired by a speech by a muslim extrimist speaker when he was a young impressionable child? Just a thought.

        1. will-billy

          i wasn’t being defensive, i was being offensive, like you are.

          what are you ‘referring’ to as criticism above? 5 dog whistle racists defaming a seventeen year old Irish citizen? you may want to take an eye test

          1. Mick

            I don´t see where they were defaming him at all. Where do you see him being defamed? I´d LOVE to know.

          2. will-billy

            refer to previous post about sight deficiency. and see a brain surgeon also ‘location services’

    1. D

      Yep. I think he’s missed the point somewhat. Of course it’s a disgrace he’s been imprisoned etc

    1. Twunt

      So wtf was he doing going to a country in revolution?

      a cheap deal on ?

      You wouldn’t shed a tear if he went to Syria to join ISIS, the MB are not all that different.

        1. Odis

          Like the Zionist commenter, “Smashmouth” – you appear to be here (on Broadsheet) with an agenda.
          Care to declare an interest?

          1. will-billy

            have considered your comment at length and concluded you are a bigoted, ignorant troll. so , no I don’t care to declare my interest in pointing out this young lad’s rights as an irish citizen to diplomatic support (which is all I have argued for) if the only form of response your pea-sized intellect can come up with is to ask if I am related to a zionist shill? your idiotic ad hominems reveal YOUR ‘agenda’; agenda item 1 : stupidity, 2 intolerance of opposing views 3 incoherence etc.

          2. jungleman

            I don’t think he/she was asking were you related to a Zionist shill, but rather whether you have some connection with the case of Ibrahim Halawa..

          3. Odis

            Oooo “idiotic ad hominems” – is it now?

            I would add that the principal difference between yourself and say the Israeli shills you get on here, is one of quality control in respect of their output.

          4. will-billy

            run out of gibberish axes to grind so repeating them over? when you have an actual point to make it will be nice to hear it

        2. Twunt


          What was he doing in Cairo?
          Why does the story change every time people point out the inconsistencies (lies) in the story as told by the sisters?
          Why is the father so quite in all this?
          What are the father’s, and the family’s, beliefs regarding Islam and democracy?

          Questions that become more interesting the longer they go unanswered.

          1. Tom

            The question is, What crime did he commit?
            He took part in a protest against the overthrow of democracy in the country his father is from. There is no question of anything else. Hundreds of people were massacred for that crime by a brutal and vicious US funded junta that has since banned its main opposition, and slaughtered with impunity.

          2. Llareggub

            Tom, I for one do not believe Ibrahim committed a crime and I do feel sorry for him. He went or was sent to Cairo like a lamb to the slaughter. His family would have known the risks attached to him being there and actively protesting I believe. He was only seventeen at the time, a child. I have a son the same age so I don’t understand why his father is not out there doing more for his son.

          3. Twunt

            To even consider the MB as democratic is farcical in the extreme.

            President Morsi ‘temporarily’ granted himself the power to legislate without judicial oversight or review of his acts

            He also put a draft constitution to a referendum that opponents complained was “an Islamist coup.

            The unleashing of pro-Brotherhood gangs on nonviolent demonstrators; the continuation of military trials; and new laws that permitted detention without judicial review for up to 30 days.

            Impunity given to Islamist radical attacks on Christians and other minorities

            During Morsi’s year-long rule there were 9,000 protests and strikes.

        3. Llareggub

          Silly Willy is on here spewing bile at every commenter who dares to disagree. I don’t think he’s reading the comments properly.

          1. will-billy

            disagree? no. disagreeable? yes. you clearly dislike your folly and just plain rush to hate-filled bigotry and snap judgements being highlighted

          2. Odis

            And you? What are you doing? You need to take a serious look at your comments m80. Read the whole post again!
            This isn’t meant as an insult. Its constructive criticism, by the way.

            Without wishing to sound like a snob, you need to engage your brain, before bleating from your keyboard.

          3. will-billy

            i do not need lessons delivered by gobshites, thanks. you trying to be ‘nice’ just makes it worse.

    2. Odis

      @ Lily, Indeed by our standards, he is an adolescent, and for all we know, the Egyptian authorities might be holding him, to put some form of leverage on the father. Its no doubt, a far more complex situation, than the one we immediately perceive.

      The only reasonable conclusions we can draw concern the parenting skills, of this unfortunate adolescent’s father.

  2. Merofuffim

    As Ibrahim is also an Egyptian citizen, there is little that the Irish authorities can do for him in terms of assistance.

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