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Bishop Martin Drennan (top) and The Connact Sentinel of August 19.

From The Irish Catholic:

Bishop of Galway Martin Drennan is demanding answers from the Society of St Vincent de Paul (SVP) in Galway after it dished out thousands of euro to fund a permanent lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender resource centre there.
The grant to LGBT Galway, €45,000 over three years, was approved by the society’s Maureen O’Connell Fund [The Society of St Vincent de Paul in Galway received the €7.8 million bequest in 2007 from the sale of an Eyre Square pub belonging to the late Maureen O’Connell] as a contribution to a full-time resource centre which Galway City Council has pledged to provide.
Galway diocesan spokesman Fr Sean McHugh confirmed that Bishop Drennan had made contact with the SVP to seek further clarity on the issue.
“We want to keep in mind the good work that the St Vincent de Paul does throughout the country. We don’t know the full facts of the story yet,” he said.

Bishop Demands Answers from SVP on gay donation (Cathal Barry, Irish Catholic)

(Graham Hughes/Photocall ireland)

38 thoughts on “How Dare They?

  1. Malodorous Mike

    Fair play to the Bishop. He’s just read about the amount being donated and is so disappointed at how small it is, he is trying to find out why more isn’t being given.

  2. cormacjones

    The article is surprisingly sympathetic – it is the Irish Catholic after all.
    The Bishop might be on his own here.

  3. Just sayin'

    It backs up what I’ve heard from some dealing with people from deprived backgrounds that SVP hands out cheques willy-nillly, not always targeting resources where they are most needed. With all due respect to the LGBT community, SVP isn’t where they should be funded from.

    1. The Old Boy

      There is very little information available about how SVP disburses funds, but the word from volunteers, former volunteers and occasionally people surprised to find themselves on the receiving end of VDP charity is that the money often isn’t efficiently managed.

    2. Sidewinder

      They’re not “funding the lgbt community” they’re providing a resource to an extremely vulnerable section of society. Rates of suicide, self harm and homelessness are all significantly higher in the LGBT community. Partly due to the kind of attitude shown by the bishop here.

      1. Just sayin'

        I don’t imagine poverty levels are higher among the LGBT community – in fact I think they’d be lower.

          1. Sidewinder

            Although I am dying to hear what completely ridiculous thought process drove you to those imaginings.

  4. Kill The Poor

    He’s just doing his job.

    The church dont approve of homosexuality and he’s just putting this point across.

    It’s a slowly dying institution and this will just hasten its demise, leave him to it.

  5. Joe Chambers

    Why would there be a resource centre built for them? What resources do they need exclusive access to?

    1. Lan

      I’d imagine support services like say councilors trained in dealing with mental health issues that know whats its like to deal with being gay. That’d at least make sense as people in the LGBT community generally have a higher rate of suicide and depression

      I’m sure theres some other services but someone else would be better qualified to explain them

  6. Bluebeard

    Hmm, for a group that bang on a lot about equality, they don’t seem to have a problem being treated differently. Why do they want to have their own café? Are straight people not good enough to hang with?
    Im afraid there seems to be a “victim economy” developing here that will ensure the victim status remains no matter what is done. Immigrants and travellers have fallen into the same trap.

    1. Bobby

      I think you’re misreading what the centre is for. It’s not a coffee shop that only LGBT people can use. There will be a cafe there that anyone can use. But the centre itself is a resource for LGBT who are struggling due to the likes of Martin Drennan demanding that they be treated as less than straight, religious people.

      1. Lorcan Nagle

        No, you’ll totally have to prove you’re gay to get into the café. I was in outhouse for a meeting the other week, and I had to kiss a guy just so they’d open the door. Now I’m colour co-ordinating and my wife is getting suspicious

    2. Bluebeard

      You’d lose your bet loser. Because I question things Im discriminatory. thats exactly what Im talking about. Creating a world where people are rewarded to feel discriminated so others can create an industry in feeding these feelings and continuing the spiral. I work in this area and know exactly what Im talking about. The millions that have been squandered on racism, travellers, emigrants quangos with no tangible results is because people like you will censor any questioning and therefore allow shysters away with fraud, negligence, mistreatment etc. But carry on doing your good work.

      1. Bluebeard

        Ah, the aul John Waters angle. Always useful when u don’t have a clue what you’re on about, but want to agree with the crowd.

        1. Sidewinder

          The whole “group think” argument must be one of the most weak ass arguments that the anti-lgbt rights brigade have thought up. I mean it’s just terrible. You’ll never convince anyone with it.

          It alienates anyone whose mind you may want to change and gets people to think harder about the issue which leads to them becoming in favour of lgbt rights because anyone who doesn’t have a deeply ingrained prejudice that allows them to ignore facts, logic and rational argument can acknowledge that it is both right and sensible. Plus the few people it may win to your side will have no hope of articulately arguing your case so not only will they be unable to change minds but they’ll only alienate more people in the same way.

    3. Nigel

      What you mean is they don’t mind having resources targeted specifically at issues that affect them. Like most other groups with specific sets of problems. You kind of have to be a bit thick to think that equality’ means we can no longer target resources at specific problems, issues, or sets of problems and issues.

      And I think it’s probably better to have victims helped and supported by the ‘victim economy’ than for them just to be victims. Unless you think that they have somehow as groups arranged for themselves to become victims to live off that sweet sweet victim largesse which oh, wait you probably do.

  7. annie

    An organisation or association that identifies as catholic has to be consistent with catholic teachings. The church supports people with same sex attraction through groups like Courage, who follow church teaching. The Bishop represents the Catholic Church therefore his role is to promote and defend the teachings of catholicism. Amach is a gruop who are promoting an active gay lifestyle. They will aso be campagining for so-called same sex marraige. This is a politically motivated group and the church does not support what they advocate. So when a catholic society allocates funds for something that is in contradiction with church teaching the Bishop has a duty to faithful catholics and the church to make inquiries. He’s not a bigot. Being catholic he’s also against sex outside marraige, binge drinking culture and drug taking. He’s against the sin, not the person. There is a distinction. A cardinal in New York spoke out against the homosexual lifestyle in New York and horrific things were said about him. After he died the people learned that a few nights a week he would volunteer as an assistant helping aids victims in a hospital . He would empty bed pans and console the sick and dying. He loved them. They never knew that he was a cardinal. We need Bishops to assert what the church teaches so no one inside or outside the church will be confused as to our beliefs. Sincerely A.

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