Ah here.
Liam O’Connor writes:
“So I received this interesting note [above] as part of my confirmation email for my marriage registration appointment:It seems children born out of wedlock are still considered illegitimate.”
Anyone?
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Shocking. Should be ‘legitimise’, no?
‘Affected’ is what’s personally making me twitch.
+1
The Status of Children Act 1987 abolished the status of illegitimacy and amended the law on maintenance and succession for non-marital children. It allowed unmarried fathers to apply for guardianship of their children and provided for blood tests to establish paternity.
but its ok, they will be legitimate when you marry so no harm
You’re an evil genius, Joe.
They should probably provide a real-world example – maybe it’s as simple as facilitating changing a child’s surname at the same time as the mother’s. Not everyone will want to but it shouldn’t be super-complicated.
@eoin. If that is the case and I’ve no reason to doubt you. Why would the HSE mention illegitimacy a bit bizarre.
@ Rob – “maybe it’s as simple as facilitating changing a child’s surname at the same time as the mother’s.”
Assuming, of course, that the mother is changing her name upon marriage…
+1
One possible explanation of this might be where the parents want to change the surname of the child following marriage, i.e., if the child was registered with the mother’s surname, and they now wish to change it to the father’s surname.
Another possible explanation could be because the parents were not married to each other, there is no presumption in laws as to who is the father of the child. If the father’s name is not on the birth certificate, the couple may, following marriage, wish to have him registered as the father.
The wording does sound a bit strange, though.
Have a look here – http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Registering_Birth.aspx especially the sections “Re-registration of births” and “Unmarried Parents”, it explains this.
Where does it explain the bit about legitimating anything?
It doesn’t, it explains what I was trying to say in my previous post.
Ah sure, with Jon Snow now isn’t it cool to be a bastard?
and have ginger wans flyin arrows at ya all the time? and you have to say it in a geordie accent too – ya bastad, jon sner
You know nothing, munkifisht
It’s because the father has feck all rights to the child until the birth is re-registered. Simple as that.
Except marriage has nothing to do with birth registration.
Unless your a father in which case it has everything to do with registration of your paternal rights.
Legitimise. Feck sake.
Republic of Ireland is the name of a football team, not the name of a country.
Not the first guy to get strange stuff, like this poor guy having trouble with his marriage and birth certs
Seems lots of stuff is outsourced to India,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNURLXrnKQk
here is an anomaly for you. 14 years ago we went to register our son (we were unmarried) and they asked if either of us had been married in the past. My partner said she was divorced. “where was the marriage and divorce?” they asked – it turns out they recognised her English marriage but not her USA divorce so her ex-husband (who she hadn’t spoken to in 10 years) had to go on the birth-cert as my son’s father under Irish law as he was still her legal husband. we had to spend €3,000 to get an Irish divorce so we could register our son with me as the father… true story.
why wouldn’t they recognise the US divorce? they recognise US marriages.
It was a UK marriage and a New Jersey Divorce. I think it was to do with the fact the marriage and divorce happened in different countries. Her ex was highly bemused to find out he had a son, so to speak, but was happy to sign new divorce papers etc.
Why couldn’t ye get the Irish divorce first and then register your son? Did you have to ask her ex to agree to go on the birth certificate? You should’ve chased him for maintenance til the divorce came through. LoL.
We did get her an Irish divorce before we registered him. you have a few months before you register a kid. it spurred us on to get married a few years later here given how few rights i seemed to have.