For Decay That’s In It


90338616The ‘Girl Against Fluoride’ Aisling Fitzgibbon (right) and Saoire O’Brien, of Direct Democracy Ireland, at the Irish Medicines Board last year

This just in…

From Australia:

Australian health authorities are reviewing the case for fluoride in drinking water amid concerns scientific evidence supporting the benefits and risks to people’s health may have shifted.

While most Australians have been regularly consuming low amounts of fluoride since it was added to drinking water in the 1960s and 1970s to prevent tooth decay, several controversial studies in recent years have suggested the mineral may be linked to low intelligence in children and thyroid problems that can cause weight gain, fatigue and depression.

Today the National Health and Medical Research Council revealed that a 2012 study linking very high levels of fluoride to low IQ among some Chinese children prompted it to commission a new review of the health effects of the celebrated public health intervention.


Studies linking fluoride in water to health issues prompt Australian review (Julie Medew, The Age)

Related: Fluoride On

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68 thoughts on “For Decay That’s In It

  1. Owen O'F

    “a 2012 study linking very high levels of fluoride to low IQ among some Chinese children”

    Jesus, so what. This just in: very high levels of paracetamol linked to overdose and death! Oh noes! Ban headache tablets!

    This’ll give a boost alright to the enragingly-named ‘girl against fluoride’, ignoring the fact that all her own reasons she’s been banging on about since forever have long since shown to be arrant bunk.

  2. Clampers Outside!

    The study:
    2012 study linking very high levels of fluoride to low IQ among some Chinese children

    The headline:
    Studies linking fluoride in water to health issues prompt Australian review

    Forgot the ‘very high levels’ there Ted, something which no one on either side would disagree with.

    How high?
    “….the study published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives identified drinking water with fluoride concentrations up to 11.5 mg/ L in China. In Australia, the recommended level is 0.6-1.1 mg/L.”

    Between 10 and 20 times higher.

  3. newsjustin

    Such silly, emotive language. Who do they believe are gaining from adding fluoride to the water? The fluoride moguls?

    1. cacotechny

      Look at Aisling’s perfect teeth with no cavities and great skin. She must be drinking better water than us.

    1. Atlas

      It isn’t news that Broadsheet are a pack of conspiracy theory-spouting crusties. It became apparent when they ran out of things that look like Ireland and people taking photos with iPads.

        1. Atlas

          Indeed, and I come here less and less because of it. In fact, much more of this and I’m pretty much done with BS. Doubt I’d be the only one.

          Spouting sensationalist pseudoscience for a few quid in ad revenue is cynical, irresponsible and morally wrong. I can’t abide it. As someone else pointed out here, they wouldn’t dare try this racket with the anti-vax pseudoscience. They’re not even principled in their cynicism.

          1. Atlas

            No, they’re very much not.

            They’ve linked to and included a quote from an article with a strong anti-fluoride slant and from that quote, they’ve emphasised the misleading allegation that the science ‘may have shifted’. There’s nothing to indicate from anything that surrounds the quote that this is quackery and to be ridiculed. It’s also the third anti-fluoride post they’ve published, versus one from a dentist that calls it out for what it is – pseudoscience.

            If you were to give them the benefit of the doubt (which I wouldn’t because of all the pseudolegal Freemen on the Land bullsh*t they also publish) I’d still have an issue with the fact that they present both ‘sides’ of the argument has having merit when the anti-fluoride argument is pure quackery. It’s cynical and irresponsible no matter what way you look at this.

          2. scottser

            rinse and spit like a good man. now, don’t try and talk, cos you sound like you only have half a face.

  4. Joe the Lion

    It never gets old. Can’t wait until Irish Water get involved in the fluoridation business. Oh yes.

      1. Talismania!

        I’d say she can’t wait either, as they’ve already been tarred as the great evil. From Facebook:

        The Girl Against Fluoride

        February 21 at 5:17pm · .

        What a turnout today outside Mountjoy from those supporting the release of the five people imprisoned for protesting against the installation of water meters. These brave hearts have stood up against the corporate take over of our water supply. Let’s hope they will soon be released.

  5. bisted

    …the pseudo-science invoked by the anti-flouridation brigade has as much credibililty as claiming that blondes are dim.

    1. Jess

      Im fairly sure that that is the main focus of most of the research and rebuttals.

      Your link doesn’t seem to say anything about flouride

      1. ReproBertie

        Flouride was used in the treatment of thyroid issues in the early part of the 20th century. Levels of 2mg to 5mg per day over a period of months were used to slow thyroid function. The levels in Irish water are between 0.6mg and 0.8mg.

      1. Orlita

        Ya, but if your thyroid is already dodgy ingesting a thyroid suppressing drug will do it no favours. Why is there such a fight against having a choice??

        1. Don Pidgeoni

          Its not a drug. The levels are very small. I do not imagine a dr would have real concerns unless your thyroid is very rubbish in which cause they would adjust the drugs you are taking and get you to use non-fluoride toothpaste and avoid fortified foods.

          But as the British Thyroid Association say (

          “The available medical and scientific evidence suggests an absence of an association between water fluoridation and thyroid disorders. Many major reviews of the relevant scientific literature around the world support this conclusion.” Excerpt from the British Fluoridation Society Statement, January 2006, reviewed and endorsed by the British Thyroid Association.

          1. Don Pidgeoni

            And aluminium too. Do you think anti-vaccine people know about this shocking contamination of their food??!!

  6. mauriac

    so Australia will become like 97% of western Europe by not adding fluoride to water.if they have decent dental care it’ll be a good test case.

          1. Freia

            You can buy a flouride filter for your home, Orlita, and then you can pour yourself a nice, tall glass of refreshing tinfoil hat, I mean water.

  7. andyourpointiswhatexactly

    Correlation does not equal causation.
    These whackos always ignore that fundamental principle.

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