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John Gallen writes:
Can you shed any light on this, a camera crew were told to stop filming on Barrow Street because Google own it? “It’s Google property” said security.
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…have you asked Pat Kenny?
The irony. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hahaha and they fell for it…
Came through Dublin airport today one customs officer on duty, but was too busy being interviewed by a camera crew to bother actually working
Because Google want their privacy?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi33LnSPhdI
So as the video shows, the security guy claims the footprint of the building is Google property, not the actual public street.
What do you mean by “the footprint” of the building? The footpath is just as public as the roadway. The fact that the upper storeys of the building overhang the footpath doesn’t make it any less public.
Not if Google own the footpath and the area it is on
Yep, its completely possible that google actually own the property right up to the curb, the public would then have right of access over the footpath but google could retain all other rights,
Alot of residential houses have a similar situation, the deed actually extends right to the road side, but there a walkway in front of the garden, it was one of the arguments being used against water meter installation, still didn’t work though
Barrow Street must have had a footpath before Google moved in. They don’t own that footpath anymore than I own the footpath outside my house. The walls, windows, doors and the space they enclose belong to Google. The road and footpath belong to Dublin.
Actually the footpaths on that side were pretty much nonexistent before the building went in. A lot of that was a CIE yard. Can’t tell for sure for the video.
That’s interesting Jimi. Perhaps I stand corrected. Must take a look at the deeds of my own house.
Donal we own the footpath right to the curb outside our house. Probably as a result of the reverse of what happened with Google. Council CPO land around our property to build a road they built a footpath as part of the deal but it is exclusively for our property despite looking like a public area & frequently being used by the public. I am guessing Google probably purchased a large footprint property right up to the road, from the council and designed the building to facilitate rights of way
You’re just assuming that Donal. From the video there appears to be a tiny plaza type area in front of the building. The security guy says it’s google’s. They all seem to agree that even though that part is, taking a few steps back solves the problem.
You’d be surprised what people do and do not own Donal. Even if it seems like common sense.
Wait until the next big snow and walk around outside the Google offices, have yourself nice slip and crack yer crown. Then see if they still claim it’s Googles property.
+1. Literalist doesn’t allow for the fact that security guards first language isn’t english. It’s obvious he’s objecting to them filming google from their entrance. I’d imagine he’s paid to do things like that.
Check out folio DN165483F on landdirect.ie. They own everything up to the public road.
Looking at that vid there’s nothing in this… damn silly Vine shorts ! :)
+1 nothing to see here.
If its a public street, can anyone stop you?
No. They will try but no.
Actually you do need permission from DCC. Also, it may well be quite possible that although the area is “public” it is owned by google who have every right to stop people filming. There is lots of “public space” in Dublin that is actually owned and managed by corporations, the IFSC and Dublin Docklands/Grand Canal dock being two examples.
You do not need permission from the DCC to film you can legally film in any public space. Dublin docklands and the ifsc are not public spaces barrow St is a public street and the can not stop you filming no matter what they say.
I’m afraid you do need permission when 5 or more people are involved.
This probably does when you have camera man, boom mic and general hangers on included in your crew
http://dublincity.ie/main-menu-services-recreation-culture-events-dublin/event-application-process
You can not include a crowd as crew unless it is part of a film shoot which that is the wrong type of camera for and you need a lot more clearance and insurance but if it is just an ENG crew with a camera and sound guy you don’t need permission.
It’s not a public street anymore
Google own a building there. Maybe they meant stop filming the building
There is nothing in Irish law that prohibits the filming or recording of buildings. The EU want to change this though.
Yes, the people who brought us street view can’t seriously object to people on a public road filming buildings.
Jayzuz how moany have we all become!!! This is just ridiculous!!
google server farm
Check it out on street view.
Google go round the world and video everyones else’s houses and property
and object to their own being video’d from a public place, will the next thing be
that Dennis O’Briens name can’t be mentioned along with Micheal Lowry, Siteserv
INM and so on, ah “great little country to do business in”.
Yes check it out on Google Earth….or will it be redacted pronto.
“Google go round the world and video everyones else’s houses and property and object to their own being video’d from a public place”
Seriously. Even if they have full legal rights to that piece of ground and air, the fact that they’re engaged in a project to collect an insane amount of data about the world including pictures of everyone else’s property should be enough reason for them not to Be Evil in this case.
Nailed it… almost.
It’s also a case of privacy… and who can afford it.
I knew that there would be some one gobsh*te who would manage to link this to water meters – well done.
Really….never mentioned Water Meters at all.
I think it is fair and reasonable that others stick cameras into their business.
Some context? Just WTF is actually happening here? Why should I be outraged?
you could try googling it
I could but my point is that this is a poor article.
When you google “It’s Google property” + Barrow Street , you get no referral to this video . Surprise !?
@DonalFlynn Yes indeed there were footpaths on Barrow Street a very long time before Google arrived. There was a CIE train station, an abattoir, a shop and houses as well as warehouses and Boland’s Mill. All before Google. Barrow Street is part of the village of Ringsend and part of the South Lotts reclaimed from swab lands and connecting Ringsend more directly to the city.
https://www.google.co.uk/about/careers/locations/dublin/
and I would be able to see their doorstep in Google Maps if there weren’t a load of the Dublin Crew standing on it and waving things.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.339594,-6.236598,3a,90y,42.25h,82.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_5n3Yr3UbC5N-gM_GWpklA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Good picture, that’s funny
Lads, leave it!
Do you not know how soon this thing become self-aware…
Wish I’d seen this sooner
Google own barrow street. At least certain parts of it. Pretty sure they literally bought it from DCC a couple of years back. I could be completely wrong but this is what I’ve been told
It doesn’t really matter whether they do or not
The question is whether any offended parties have a reasonable expectation of privacy on a street that is a public thoroughfare. The answer to that is clearly not. Google have used this argument themselves in defence of their bots trolling through all our emails and also in defiant rejection of criticisms of their Google earth tabloid photos
It’s not about privacy, it is about filming on private property. Nobody has the right to film on private property without the owner’s consent, unless it is in the execution of a court order or an investigation.
If google own that part of the footpath (big IF) then Google is entirely within its rights to ask people not to film there. The crew can simply move a couple of paces on to public property and film from there.
Who is arguing with you buddy? John of Gods is on the N11
Joe, is not a public thoroughfare. it’s private property
same in LA
https://pando.com/2015/06/22/we-got-geeks/0f5e37dd20647915deca221f540649016f6f3612/
Must stop recording people in the Google gym each morning on the dart. It’s my favourite thing to do. I love watching Google employees sweat.
Because Google is evil and needs to operate under cover of darkness.
….from the people who brought you ‘Street View’ comes…………’some of the Street View, but not the bit We’re on, thanks’
I’d have thought a couple of thousand selfies or pics taken on phones and shared to their fb page, or emailed into them would be kind of making the point of ‘Do as I say, not do as I do…” :)