Cloverhill Prison in Dublin
The Herald reports:
Walli Ullah (21) was taken hostage by a group of prisoners who subjected him to a severe beating during which his arm was broken and his face slashed with a blade. Eleven prisoners were taken to hospital after a fight broke out when inmates at Cloverhill Prison refused to return to their cells.
Prison officers with riot shields and batons moved in and forcibly returned the inmates to their cells. Meanwhile, Anti-Racism Network Ireland (ARN) are calling for Ullah’s immediate release, and say that he arrived in Ireland seeking protection, having fled Afghanistan in fear of his life.
He claims to have travelled for at least three months, stowed away in a container, in order to reach our shores. On arrival, he was arrested by authorities due to the fact that he is a non-national and did not have the appropriate identification.
Stowaway discovered on side of M7 badly injured in Cloverhill riot (The Herald)
Related: Mystery man found on side of M7 with no English, passport or documentation (Herald)
As non-xenophobic as I can possibly say, he committed an offence and is in prison. Why should he be released? Unless I’m missing something.
Also, why was he targeted as a hostage? Full facts or its not news.
He’s not being detailed in a suitable place. He’s an asylum seeker, not a scumbag criminal (who cause far more problems for Irish society).
How do you know this? The article does not give any details?
he hasn’t claimed asylum from what i can tell. He’s an undocumented immigrant here illegally. There’s some casual assumptions, both here and in the article, that perhaps he might be a potential refugee/asylum seeker, but so far he hasn’t actually made this claim himself.
Well he’s someone who left a messed up country and spent three months in a shipping container and was wandering around on a motorway like a stray animal. He doesn’t deserve to be locked up with hardened criminals.
His information surrounding his circumstances are in the public domain. Surely as someone who is obviously online quite a bit, you would be up to date on these facts…?
Absolutely a proper place.
Why? Based on the backstory of this young man, why is this “absolutely” a proper place? Because you don’t like immigrants?
+1
why is someone who commited a non-violent offence in Cloverhill?? and why was he not put through the refugee system or deported, or processed far more appropriately than being criminalised?
he hasn’t applied for anything , he has no documentation. It’s should have been the best place until his status was confirmed.
It’s not the states fault a gang of dirtbags did this to him . The people who did this are at fault .
Them alone.
The state knew the kind of people he was being placed with. They have written records of their history. I think if an Irish guy was locked up in jail in America for example there would be outrage on here. Calls for enda kenny to intervene etc. Because it’s a brown skinned fella here in old Eire, every middle aged middle class male in south county Dublin gets on broadsheet and more or less says he deserves it cos he’s ‘an illegal’. Ironic really…
It’s 100% the states fault that we put this guy in a prison where we failed to protect him. The least any prisoner deserves when we hold them in prison is that they will be safe.
The state has a responsibility to protect its prisoners. They didn’t do that here. Therefore the state is culpable.
Also I’d remind everyone that this man hasn’t been convicted of anything. Has he had a trial? No. So he’s no committed any offence as far as the law is concerned. So the state has locked up an innocent and highly vulnerable man and not even done so in a safe environment. I don’t care if the guy turns out to be a madras running mullah, he’s innocent until proven guilty and the way we’re treating him is disgraceful.
I would venture to suggest compassionate grounds, based on the savage violence inflicted on him. Just a guess.
Perhaps he shouldn’t have been locked up in the first place. This is Ireland after all, is it surprising some f**k up like this happened with our public service?
He shouldn’t have been here in the first place.
Go and tell that to the undocumented Irish in America.
why is an undocumented migrantt in cloverhil? why wasn’t he just deported?
He likely claimed asylum.
He probably claimed political asylum, which I think he’s entitled to do. I don’t know if having do ID means he can’t do that.
Why is he in Cloverhill is the crux of it though. It’s inhumane and unfair to keep someone who’s (probably) fleeing persecution and who’s only crime is not having a passport in a jail.
Any country I’ve ever been in will throw you in prison if you are undocumented. The U.S. do it to Irish people regularly. Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here? He was slashed in the face and had his arm broken because he was put in a prison with criminals and not a detention centre with migrants. I’m actually very surprised to see Irish people on here being so cold and heartless about this issue…
The level of hypocracy of Irish culture towards immigrants is sadly nothing new.
True Lorcan but it’s hardly surprising is it? We’re a backward remote island nation on the periphery of Europe. And to be fair we’re only just getting the French, Anglo Norman, Cromwellians and Spanish students recently assimilated
Unfortunate, however wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t here.
Yeah, instead he should be back in Afghanistan, waiting patiently for the next bomb attack like a good sensible boy.
Why aren’t thousands of undocumented Irish in America “just deported”???
The all work and do not get ANY handouts from the state. THE MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO AMERICAN SOCIETY.
That’s why.
REFUGEES AE FORBIDDEN BY US TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY.
We, as in us, will not actually let them do what you’re talking about there. It’s fucking illegal.
Fuck sake if you’re going to be a heartless racist cunt at least do some fucking research.
Perhaps you could go to Africa and do some voluntary work as you seem to have great affection for that wonderful continent.
some nice folk on bs this morning
“Anti-Racism Network Ireland (ARN) are calling for Ullah’s immediate release” – thought we had a legal system for that sort of thing.
Is it just ARN or can I call for someone’s immediate release?
Nothing’s stopping you from calling for anything you want. It’s more will anybody listen to you, or ARN, or any of us, really.
You can call for anything you like.
In the same way that after bombings in the north, church leaders would call for an end to violence.
Nobody has to pay any attention to you when you call for something, in other words.
I’m sure you can call for anyone’s release if you feel they have been unfairly locked up. Maybe for example a young man who travelled from a hell hole part of the world in a shipping container for three months, ended up wandering a motorway, was banged up in a hell hole prison when he should have been put somewhere else, then was held hostage, had his arm broken and face slashed. Would that be an occasion where you might stand up for someone? Maybe not… Because so far your comments here seem to suggest he deserves to be in cloverhill prison with violent criminals. My question to you is if this was an undocumented Irish 21 year old middle class white guy in a hell hole American prison locked up for the same ‘offence’ and then brutally assaulted would you be on here proclaiming he deserved to be there?
I’m sure you can call for anyone’s release if you feel they have been unfairly locked up. Maybe for example: a young man who travelled from a hell hole part of the world in a shipping container for three months, ended up wandering a motorway, was banged up in a violent prison when he should have been put somewhere else, then was held hostage, had his arm broken and face slashed. Would that be an occasion where you might stand up for someone? Maybe not… Because so far your comments here seem to suggest he deserves to be in cloverhill prison with violent criminals. My question to you ‘Odis’ is if this was an undocumented Irish 21 year old middle class white guy in a hell hole American prison locked up for the same ‘offence’ and then brutally assaulted would you be on here proclaiming he deserved to be there? Based on your earlier views, I think not.
I’m calling for a release from reading your despicable output
I’d a thought many a genuine refugee here wouldn’t have travel documents and would have to be non national anyway. Surely they can be processed in a civilised way, to check whether they are genuine or not and then allow them in or deport. Arresting then for a crime seems a bit harsh.
He probably needs to assault somebody or beat a dog to death before he can be released or maybe just say he came to Ireland to ‘try and get on the straight and narrow’ .. that seems to be the equivalent to saying ‘open sesame’ for any prison in Ireland..
Empathy is a word lost on most BS commenters today…
I have empathy with the taxpayer.
Why, what happened to me? Don’t recall being in fear for my life any time recently.
Oh wait, it’s because I have something in common with you assholes isn’t it? Yeah, I feel a little self pity over that too.
They are always like this. Especially ^^^
Walli should be deported to the first EU contry he arrived in, as is the requirement.
Define requirement.
Hypocrisy of those who usually leap to every social justice post trying to prove they’re more liberal than Jesus, ‘How dare you even SMILE when there’s homeless!/Water charges are killing babies!’ turning into dog-whistle ‘Flog em!’ hard-liners as soon as the topic turns to immigrants.
Or Travelers, come to think of it.
To whom are you referring you retard?
Has to be directed at you Joe surely.
Haha I’ve not been known to comment on either immigrants or travellers so a bit wide of the mark there you pair of legends
Joe what the fupp are you doing?
Good question Rory what the fupp are YOU doing?
How do you mean?
How do YOU mean Rory?
I mean what do you think I am doing?
Sounds like thats for you Joe
Ha. You’re irredeemably a terrible person.
The post wasn’t actually directed at him, but if he thinks it was, it must have hit home.
No I didn’t think it was brainbox- I’m asking you again who is it directed at?
Some bunch of heartless pricks on here today. If the uvf had any proper clout we’d all have fupped off to anywhere we bloody well felt like.
Christ lads grow a soul.
Absolutely agree. Every middle class white male in South county Dublin seems to be on here doing their best Daily Mail journalist impression.
I counted 2 trolls and our resident Alternative Voice. Colin’s comment which opened the thread asked genuine questions with regards to the facts and how the story is presented to us.
Most commenters agree with you and the trolls’ rubbish has been dealt with.
The herald…….