Given that we are so backwards as a nation and don’t provide a carriage for bikes, as is the case in many European countries, I don’t see an issue here. Guy has a right to travel as much as anyone else. Would be quite different if he was using said guitar as a paddle to get onto the train.
JollyRoger
Actually
Bicycles on Commuter and DART Trains
Bicycles are permitted on Commuter and DART services between 10:00 and 15:30 and after 19:00 Monday to Friday and all day Saturday and Sunday. Customers are asked to stay with their bicycles in the vestibules at all times and ensure they do not allow their bicycles to become a nuisance to other passengers. The carriage of bicycles on Commuter and Dart services is at the discretion of station staff. At certain times (e.g. major sporting fixtures /concerts), it may not be possible to permit carriage of bicycles on Commuter and DART services. Bicycles that are folded and covered can be carried on all Commuter and Dart services with no time restrictions.
If you are travelling with your bicycle, please note the following:
Customers should walk with their bicycles when they are in the station. It is not permitted to cycle in stations or on platforms
Customers should use ramps and lifts rather than stairs within stations to gain access to platforms
Customers should stay with their bicycles onboard trains
Unaccompanied children cannot bring bicycles onto trains
No motorised bicycles are allowed on trains
No bicycles with attached trailers are allowed on trains
Always use available bicycle storage spaces provided
Never obstruct exits or passageways
parky mark
While I’ve brought my bike on the dart a few times on the allowed times it’s a pity they can’t provide for it during rush hours. A lot of people could commute easier if they had their bike for the start and end of their journey to work.
JollyRoger
I agree with that, sometimes things that are very easy to do can make life much better for everyone!
I agree too. But there is not the capacity to accommodate bikes in rush hour so the rules as they are currently are reasonable.
ceo
Yep, would be great if we could accommodate bikes at rush hour, but the capacity isn’t there. So if this guy knows the rules, and is aware of the crush that is a rush hour DART carriage, then I agree, inconsiderate.
munkifisht
Spot on. Much better than trying to get a bike on the LDN UnderGround. Most lines won’t let you no matter what time of day it is.
huppenstop
Exactly. It took me a minute to realise what the point of the post was. Bikes on public transport is standard where I live. And dogs too!
Rob_G
Never heard of any metro system in Europe that has a carriage for bicycles; some inter-city trains would.
Wait until off-peak to being your bike, guy is being a inconsiderate (not to mention lazy)
huppenstop
Every German city I have been to has subway carriages that include extra space for bikes. They are marked on the outside with a big bike sign so you know which carriage to get on.
classter
huppenstop, bikes can’t be taken on Berlin’s U-bahn during rush hour (6-9am and 2-5pm).
Being allowed do so is pretty rare. Even Rotterdam does not allow it during rush hour.
huppenstop
You can bring bikes on the U-Bahn as long as there is space in the designated bike areas on carriages, although buggies, prams and wheelchair users take precedence.
What the stuttering fupp is this? Is he not allowed commute? What’s the threshold? A plastic bag with all your belongings is ok, but a backpack gets you waterboarded?
He needed to get on the train with his guitar and bike and did so. Put the faux outrage and pitchforks away.
Custo
Why doesn’t he just cycle?
Vote Rep #1
Maybe his bike has broken in some way that would mean he couldn’t cycle and would have to walk his bike home, which could be a long way.
Custo
maybe.
Or maybe he’s LAZY and INCONSIDERATE and WORSE THAN THE TERRORISTS
ahyeah
When you think about it, it is actually a form of terrorism. And the worst type. Some terrorist acts are over in seconds, whereas this could be a 20-30 minute journey.
Harry the Horse
Maybe he was just fed up with cycling on footpaths & decided to give train stations a go….!
Damian
If it bothered you that much why didn’t you say it to the person instead of being sneaky and taking a picture of them and posting it on broadsheet looking for a reaction.
Mister Mister
I’m waiting for the Nosey Asshole on Dart Platform story.
Robert
+1
I wonder would he be giving out about “inconvenient” mothers with prams too???
The little thing that bothered someone so much they took a pic and sent it to the internets which gave rise to concerned internetters to be bothered by something they themselves thought wasn’t worth getting bothered about in the first place.
* presses the steam button on the iron and sighs deeply *
Francois
Well said although there would be hardly any Internet (or society) left without the contributions of those bothered.
Digs
In fairness, looks like he might have struggled to get on. It’s not like he was ploughing through people. And in fairness, you’re an asshat to take a picture of someone oblivious and minding their own business.
dylad
Ah – internet shaming. Hope you’ll put a foot wrong and end up being a victim of it too.
Even Broadsheet seems to infected with Joe Duffyitis it would seem. I suggest a healthy dose of ‘who gives a f*ck’ and move on. Back to pictures of sunsets.
Murtles
* He could have asthma and can’t cycle
* He could be going to Bray to visit a sick relative and needs to get there faster than cycling
* There could be something wrong with the bike
* He friend who owns the bike coulda been just knocked off it and he’s bringing it home for him
* Tom could just be a snoopy-thinks-he-knows-it-all and better than everyone so he can be reactionary judgemental man that never does anything to annoy people or puts a foot wrong
Well for those that commute on the DART at rush hour will know how annoying it is having bikes taking standing room on a crowded DART. In any case they never enforce it and I have seen people on bikes walk past staff at turnstiles and they never do anything. Worse still are those with fold up bikes who don’t bother folding it up.
Bicycles not allowed on Luas at all, even during quiet times. Best you can hope for is a driver who turns a blind eye as you lurk in the last carriage. I have been thrown off over the PA system & by inspectors :(
St. John Smythe
Good. You are worse than Hitler madam.
Liam from Lixnaw
get a brompton. the end
Owen
Then he could star in his own show called ‘Straight out of Brompton’.
It could be a light take on the trendy hipster scene in Dublin, with cool info on beard trimming, not buying socks, and being a complete bellend.
classter
So a fold-up bike for commuting to work is now ‘hipster’?
Hipster literally means nothing any more.
Bejayziz
Takes up less room than a pram/buggy, its a narrow object like, get over it
Niamh
If this was taken at Grand Canal at 5.35 yesterday then I was on that dart – I got in through the doors just under the bridge there.
I can tell you it was absolutely jam packed (same thing on Monday, I don’t know if they’re trialling shorter darts or what is happening but the last two days have been way too full and have been slow/delayed). It was so packed that we were all squeezed up against each other, many not in reach of anything to hold to steady themselves.
My point is that it was really way too full so I seriously doubt that person actually got on the dart.
I agree that people shouldn’t bring their bikes on darts at rush hour but in this guy’s defense, you can see he has a ticket from the machine in his hand rather than a leap card so I would guess that he doesn’t normally use public transport and this was a one off.
Ultravox
If you’re “working” in the local tech companies there – good. you deserve it.
Eve
Yup, I was in that shot, about to clamber on. It was hell, I normally take the much earlier train. No idea how the rest of the commuters do this daily.
therealkevinwHitty
Tom ye sap! wHa?!
Conor
What immediately springs to mind – Remember a few years ago all that chaos because they were spending millions extending all the DART platforms for 8 carriage DARTs….ohhh yeahhh.
The capacity is there, but the gov just didn’t doesn’t give a bull about public transport in this city.
Hence the reason we’re getting a flippin’ LUAS to the airport.
delta V
Nailed it. 10 years from now (if we’re lucky) it’ll be a photo of inconsiderate tourists with big rollie suitcases jamming up the airport LUAS, because a DART spur from Clongriffin through government owned Belmayne-Belcamp NAMAland required more imagination at the time.
Ronan
In other news, guy doing things minds his own business.
Okay, it is really up to station staff to enforce this rule, but they are either not there to enforce it, or just don’t.
(Un)Common sense would probably have told the man that rush hour, 1 stop out of town is not the time to be loading a bike onto a busy commuter train.
It is a common problem, but internet shaming is not the way to solve it.
Mr. T.
What an idiotic thing to post.
Why wasn’t he conforming, wearing a suit and staring into his phone constantly while avoiding all contact with others?
pissedasanewt
He should have walked up to an employee of Irish rail and mentioned it to him. That employee would then have got the rule book and shown this man, that actually bikes are not allowed during rush hour because due to cut backs we’ve reduced the number of number carriages on trains, so space is limited and if you wouldn’t mind waiting until after the 7pm threshold. The man would then have gone, that sounds reasonable. Can I bring lock my bike here and i’ll pick it up tomorrow, is it secure? The Irish rail man, would then have gone, sure thing. Lock it downstairs in full view of cctv, it should be ok for the night. The next day the man returns to find his bike gone and his lock cut through.
Are prams allowed on trains at rush hour then? If we are going the inconsiderate route, how about those who natter away on their phones the whole way.. or body odour person? or the one time you manage to get a seat the largest person on the train happens to sit beside you.. the ONE time!! Everybody else has fupping jockies sitting beside them and I get the horse!!
Bejayziz
+1
Jones
Jeez, Hozier thinks he can do what he wants now!
But in all fairness, who cares, to be fair. Similar outrage should apply to parents and prams, fatties, people with bags etc etc
doncolleone
3rd world and proud of it.
Spaghetti Hoop
Most of today’s posts on BS are really proving that point.
Depressing stuff.
Ultravox
@Tom: You’re a sneaky POS, a coward and an inciter of bullies and abuse. Got your jollies for the day? A-hole.
Given that we are so backwards as a nation and don’t provide a carriage for bikes, as is the case in many European countries, I don’t see an issue here. Guy has a right to travel as much as anyone else. Would be quite different if he was using said guitar as a paddle to get onto the train.
Actually
Bicycles on Commuter and DART Trains
Bicycles are permitted on Commuter and DART services between 10:00 and 15:30 and after 19:00 Monday to Friday and all day Saturday and Sunday. Customers are asked to stay with their bicycles in the vestibules at all times and ensure they do not allow their bicycles to become a nuisance to other passengers. The carriage of bicycles on Commuter and Dart services is at the discretion of station staff. At certain times (e.g. major sporting fixtures /concerts), it may not be possible to permit carriage of bicycles on Commuter and DART services. Bicycles that are folded and covered can be carried on all Commuter and Dart services with no time restrictions.
If you are travelling with your bicycle, please note the following:
Customers should walk with their bicycles when they are in the station. It is not permitted to cycle in stations or on platforms
Customers should use ramps and lifts rather than stairs within stations to gain access to platforms
Customers should stay with their bicycles onboard trains
Unaccompanied children cannot bring bicycles onto trains
No motorised bicycles are allowed on trains
No bicycles with attached trailers are allowed on trains
Always use available bicycle storage spaces provided
Never obstruct exits or passageways
While I’ve brought my bike on the dart a few times on the allowed times it’s a pity they can’t provide for it during rush hours. A lot of people could commute easier if they had their bike for the start and end of their journey to work.
I agree with that, sometimes things that are very easy to do can make life much better for everyone!
…if there was more carriages / space
I agree too. But there is not the capacity to accommodate bikes in rush hour so the rules as they are currently are reasonable.
Yep, would be great if we could accommodate bikes at rush hour, but the capacity isn’t there. So if this guy knows the rules, and is aware of the crush that is a rush hour DART carriage, then I agree, inconsiderate.
Spot on. Much better than trying to get a bike on the LDN UnderGround. Most lines won’t let you no matter what time of day it is.
Exactly. It took me a minute to realise what the point of the post was. Bikes on public transport is standard where I live. And dogs too!
Never heard of any metro system in Europe that has a carriage for bicycles; some inter-city trains would.
Wait until off-peak to being your bike, guy is being a inconsiderate (not to mention lazy)
Every German city I have been to has subway carriages that include extra space for bikes. They are marked on the outside with a big bike sign so you know which carriage to get on.
huppenstop, bikes can’t be taken on Berlin’s U-bahn during rush hour (6-9am and 2-5pm).
Being allowed do so is pretty rare. Even Rotterdam does not allow it during rush hour.
You can bring bikes on the U-Bahn as long as there is space in the designated bike areas on carriages, although buggies, prams and wheelchair users take precedence.
https://www.bvg.de/de/Service/Service-fuer-unterwegs/Fahrrad
Rob, Swiss have specific space for bikes on nearly all public transport options, they do charge for bringing one on however
Not in rush hour!
What the stuttering fupp is this? Is he not allowed commute? What’s the threshold? A plastic bag with all your belongings is ok, but a backpack gets you waterboarded?
He needed to get on the train with his guitar and bike and did so. Put the faux outrage and pitchforks away.
Why doesn’t he just cycle?
Maybe his bike has broken in some way that would mean he couldn’t cycle and would have to walk his bike home, which could be a long way.
maybe.
Or maybe he’s LAZY and INCONSIDERATE and WORSE THAN THE TERRORISTS
When you think about it, it is actually a form of terrorism. And the worst type. Some terrorist acts are over in seconds, whereas this could be a 20-30 minute journey.
Maybe he was just fed up with cycling on footpaths & decided to give train stations a go….!
If it bothered you that much why didn’t you say it to the person instead of being sneaky and taking a picture of them and posting it on broadsheet looking for a reaction.
I’m waiting for the Nosey Asshole on Dart Platform story.
+1
I wonder would he be giving out about “inconvenient” mothers with prams too???
The little thing that bothered someone so much they took a pic and sent it to the internets which gave rise to concerned internetters to be bothered by something they themselves thought wasn’t worth getting bothered about in the first place.
* presses the steam button on the iron and sighs deeply *
Well said although there would be hardly any Internet (or society) left without the contributions of those bothered.
In fairness, looks like he might have struggled to get on. It’s not like he was ploughing through people. And in fairness, you’re an asshat to take a picture of someone oblivious and minding their own business.
Ah – internet shaming. Hope you’ll put a foot wrong and end up being a victim of it too.
Here here….
Even Broadsheet seems to infected with Joe Duffyitis it would seem. I suggest a healthy dose of ‘who gives a f*ck’ and move on. Back to pictures of sunsets.
* He could have asthma and can’t cycle
* He could be going to Bray to visit a sick relative and needs to get there faster than cycling
* There could be something wrong with the bike
* He friend who owns the bike coulda been just knocked off it and he’s bringing it home for him
* Tom could just be a snoopy-thinks-he-knows-it-all and better than everyone so he can be reactionary judgemental man that never does anything to annoy people or puts a foot wrong
The possibilities are endless
* He was only passing through :)
Broadsheet be thy kangaroo court
Well for those that commute on the DART at rush hour will know how annoying it is having bikes taking standing room on a crowded DART. In any case they never enforce it and I have seen people on bikes walk past staff at turnstiles and they never do anything. Worse still are those with fold up bikes who don’t bother folding it up.
Oh, that last bit…. :-/
Bicycles not allowed on Luas at all, even during quiet times. Best you can hope for is a driver who turns a blind eye as you lurk in the last carriage. I have been thrown off over the PA system & by inspectors :(
Good. You are worse than Hitler madam.
get a brompton. the end
Then he could star in his own show called ‘Straight out of Brompton’.
It could be a light take on the trendy hipster scene in Dublin, with cool info on beard trimming, not buying socks, and being a complete bellend.
So a fold-up bike for commuting to work is now ‘hipster’?
Hipster literally means nothing any more.
Takes up less room than a pram/buggy, its a narrow object like, get over it
If this was taken at Grand Canal at 5.35 yesterday then I was on that dart – I got in through the doors just under the bridge there.
I can tell you it was absolutely jam packed (same thing on Monday, I don’t know if they’re trialling shorter darts or what is happening but the last two days have been way too full and have been slow/delayed). It was so packed that we were all squeezed up against each other, many not in reach of anything to hold to steady themselves.
My point is that it was really way too full so I seriously doubt that person actually got on the dart.
I agree that people shouldn’t bring their bikes on darts at rush hour but in this guy’s defense, you can see he has a ticket from the machine in his hand rather than a leap card so I would guess that he doesn’t normally use public transport and this was a one off.
If you’re “working” in the local tech companies there – good. you deserve it.
Yup, I was in that shot, about to clamber on. It was hell, I normally take the much earlier train. No idea how the rest of the commuters do this daily.
Tom ye sap! wHa?!
What immediately springs to mind – Remember a few years ago all that chaos because they were spending millions extending all the DART platforms for 8 carriage DARTs….ohhh yeahhh.
The capacity is there, but the gov just didn’t doesn’t give a bull about public transport in this city.
Hence the reason we’re getting a flippin’ LUAS to the airport.
Nailed it. 10 years from now (if we’re lucky) it’ll be a photo of inconsiderate tourists with big rollie suitcases jamming up the airport LUAS, because a DART spur from Clongriffin through government owned Belmayne-Belcamp NAMAland required more imagination at the time.
In other news, guy doing things minds his own business.
Okay, it is really up to station staff to enforce this rule, but they are either not there to enforce it, or just don’t.
(Un)Common sense would probably have told the man that rush hour, 1 stop out of town is not the time to be loading a bike onto a busy commuter train.
It is a common problem, but internet shaming is not the way to solve it.
What an idiotic thing to post.
Why wasn’t he conforming, wearing a suit and staring into his phone constantly while avoiding all contact with others?
He should have walked up to an employee of Irish rail and mentioned it to him. That employee would then have got the rule book and shown this man, that actually bikes are not allowed during rush hour because due to cut backs we’ve reduced the number of number carriages on trains, so space is limited and if you wouldn’t mind waiting until after the 7pm threshold. The man would then have gone, that sounds reasonable. Can I bring lock my bike here and i’ll pick it up tomorrow, is it secure? The Irish rail man, would then have gone, sure thing. Lock it downstairs in full view of cctv, it should be ok for the night. The next day the man returns to find his bike gone and his lock cut through.
Are prams allowed on trains at rush hour then? If we are going the inconsiderate route, how about those who natter away on their phones the whole way.. or body odour person? or the one time you manage to get a seat the largest person on the train happens to sit beside you.. the ONE time!! Everybody else has fupping jockies sitting beside them and I get the horse!!
+1
Jeez, Hozier thinks he can do what he wants now!
But in all fairness, who cares, to be fair. Similar outrage should apply to parents and prams, fatties, people with bags etc etc
3rd world and proud of it.
Most of today’s posts on BS are really proving that point.
Depressing stuff.
@Tom: You’re a sneaky POS, a coward and an inciter of bullies and abuse. Got your jollies for the day? A-hole.