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Renua Leader Lucinda Creighton (top) and Eddie Hobbs, the party’s finance spokesman, this morning.

Breaking News reports:

“Renua has issued a number of pre-budget submissions today. The party is proposing a new 23% flat rate of income tax for everyone. It also proposes abolishing the TV licence fee and making RTE fund itself entirely from commercial revenue…The party also says no public servant should get a pension in excess of €60,000.”

Renua proposes new flat rate of income tax in pre-budget submission (Breakingnews.ie)

(RollingNews.ie

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57 thoughts on “Way To Go

    1. Atticus

      Pension cap of €60K not pay cap.

      They’re a 100% right on that one. Although I think the cap should be even lower. It’s ridiculous how much some public servant pensions are

      1. Frilly Keane

        I’ve long advocated that no State Pension should be greater than the Average Industrial Wage.

        If that’s not enough for Politicians, of all shades, and Public Servants of all grades.
        Two Words

        Private Pension

        1. meadowlark

          That kind of straightforward thought is not appreciated by those in power. An honest days work for an honest days pay? Feck off.

        2. Anomanomanom

          You’ll find the low level public sector pension is not worth a crap. If we work overtime we pay more pension levy yet it doesn’t go towards our pension.

        3. Sido

          Come on they”ve got there before us and found a way to scew it. I think its probably some thing to do with making banking and the like an industry.

  1. MoyestWithExcitement

    “The party is proposing a new 23% flat rate of income tax for everyone.”

    Of course. CEOs should definitely be paying the same proportion of their wages to the public coffers as teachers. Definitely.

    1. donkey_kong

      says you.

      they will certainly be an alternative for the normal FG / FF voters who won’t vote left but who are sick of gombeen politics and the influence of evil megalomaniacs and builders on their normal party of choice.

      people may slag off Lucinda on abortion (I don’t btw) but irish people would sell their first born for money as they’ve proven in various EU referenda. This party could do reasonably well.

      1. ahjayzis

        Not so fast.

        The middle class don’t like when their right-wing party of choice is this upfront about hatefupping the poor and ballooning the rich.

      2. Mr. T.

        Their support is absolutely insignificant. She’s being given airtime way beyond what her so-called party should expect.

    1. Mr. T.

      That’s the Fine Gael way.

      Problem is though, every lower ranking jumped up office manager thinks they’re one of the big boys, with a low spec BMW on credit from the bank. And these people want to vote Fine Gael for fear of being identified with their true contemporaries who are working class and lower middle class.

      It’s all about aspiration and self delusion.

  2. dhaughton99

    I like the RTE having to fund themselves bit but wait to hear their views on culling urban foxes before I vote for them.

  3. ahjayzis

    Yee gads, but is this the most far-right party we’ve ever seen?

    I’m dying to see if there’s an appetite in this country for the Tennessee Republican Party, Ireland-division.

    1. Medium Sized C

      We have a nationalist party. So no.

      But heavens know what they are going to do about the immediate and massive drop in the tax take that would result from dropping the top rate.

      1. ahjayzis

        All our parties are nationalist – unless there’s a unionist party I’ve not been made aware of?

        1. Charley

          FG sort of like to think of themselves as pro-union, they’re grandfathers were mostly Black and Tan thugs so it’s something that’s bred into them

  4. Owen

    You can not sustain the staff in RTE without massive increases in commercial costs. +100%, if you remove licences. Alternatively, the solution which gave better results when analysed, reduced monitoring costs, and a more accurate account of use was to utilise IP addresses for licence fee. This would allow a substantial reduction in licence cost to the household while keeping RTE in business. That said, there is a large capital cost in change over which would need to be found…..potentially through smaller commercial increases.

    1. Paolo

      IP addresses are not associated with buildings. Just fund it from central taxation like other public services.

    2. Anomanomanom

      If they don’t pay the ridiculously high salaries to staff they’d be fine. Nobody is poaching rte staff so if they won’t work for less then let them leave.

  5. Kolmo

    A party who repeatedly refers to the citizens of Ireland as simply consumers.

    Economic units to be mined.

    1. Woof

      Seems to be universal. In the train station the other day, Iarnród Éireann’s announcements were addressed to ‘customers’ instead of passengers. Woman beside me muttered: “When they start calling us ‘clients’ we’ll need to get really worried.”

      1. Paolo

        You can be a customer without being a passenger and you can be a passenger without being a customer. Nothing wrong with using the term customer.

        1. Disgruntled Goat

          How can you be a customer and not (ultimately) a passenger? Why else would you be paying a train company if not to, you know, be a passenger on a train (commercial freight aside) either immediately or in the very near future?

  6. Mr. T.

    RTE shouldn’t be made entirely self funding because they are an essential state broadcasting service. It’s not all about reruns of Friends and the Voice of Ireland.

    But RTE should be made behave like a true state broadcasting service and not allow itself be controlled by political parties in government.

    The RTE news is unbelievably biased in favour of Government policy.

    1. Cathy

      The public service broadcasting conundrum , the government controls it’s means of funding so you could say there’s an incentive to suck up to them. Public service broadcasting is absolutely essential though imo.

    2. Paolo

      Agree re RTE but I don’t agree that it is unbelievably biased. I think they do a pretty good job in their factual programming.

  7. Clampers Outside!

    What did Lucinda say about her own entitlement to a pension from 50?

    And her pension not being performance based?

    And her pension not aligned to contributions made?

    And the fact that there are multiple pensions paid for different positions serfed in govt which should all be brought in under one umbrella?

    She said nothing, ah… right so.

  8. Paolo

    Is Renua still a thing? I assumed that they had all scuttled back to the dark places from whence they came.

  9. Barry the Hatchet

    So the Secretary who earns €30,000 a year, will pay €900 more in tax. While her boss, the Solicitor who earns €85,000 a year, will pay €7,690 less. That seems totally legit.

    1. Padi

      So the solicitor you refer to is creating employment…that not a good thing? They both contribute the same proportion of their income but obviously the boss contributes more cash in real terms, how is that not fair?

      1. Barry the Hatchet

        Creating employment my eye. A Solicitor can’t do her job without support staff. Both are heavily dependent on one another. In any event, in case it has escaped your notice, the Solicitor is already being handsomely rewarded for the many years of study and training, etc.

        And no, I don’t think it’s remotely fair or sensible to take from the less well off in order to hand massive tax cuts to the wealthy.

      2. Clampers Outside!

        In fairness, the criminals create the employment for both defence and prosecution, so we should start a criminals rights campaign for all the job creation that they do.

        1. Barry the Hatchet

          And dead people, with probate. Rights for criminals and dead people! Super-rights for dead criminals!

  10. Peter Dempsey

    Niamh Puirseil is a known Twitter outrage junkie. Just the sort of person who’d never vote Renua no matter what.

  11. Drogg

    Renua can fupp right off with their fuppwittery, seriously this is the Poo that they think will get them elected? Creighton is a scourge on the Irish people and eddie has some very interesting dealings under his belt… If you vote for renua you don’t deserve for someone to widdle on you if you are on fire.

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