FTA Ireland tweetz:
“Autoaddress gets their own #Eircode wrong.”
Meanwhile…
@TheTrips @broadsheet_ie this #Eircode in Cork takes you 100's metres in the wrong direction! #FIASCODE pic.twitter.com/cIAmjfCcTd
— Loc8 Code (@loc8code) November 17, 2015
Anyone?
Previously: Eircode And A Pattern Of Non-Competitive Tenders For Consultants
Related: Postcode investigation will not be re-opened, Daáil hears (Irish Times, November 13, 2015)
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Eircode have the address wrong if it is indeed wrong.
But the Eircode is tied to the building, more than the actual location of the unit within that building.
And what the pic tries to hide is that the two photos are adjacent. The Eircode would get you within 5 m of the door.
If the aim is to discredit Autoaddress or Eircode, this kind of does the opposite.
You are a very good boy …
Wrong address is a wrong address.
Except it’s the right address. It’s 4 Inns Court, or D08 XY00, which are consistent not only with each other, but with where the building actually is.
Within 5m?
That’s the wrong address then yeah?
No, its not. It’s correct for the postcode.
Postcodes don’t always point to exact addresses.
Eircode does, or at least that is the claim, and one if the reasons it cannot be non-sequential…
By the way how many people use Eircode?
there is no reason why a postcode cannot be sequential. This was put about by the same people who told us that Eircode would be the new world standard but – as we can see from the Autoaddress example, an Irish address is better than an Eircode and we all know how bad Irish addresses are. If you use Autoaddress’s address you get to the right door, if you use their Eircode you arrive at the wrong street behind the wrong building!
It should be very clear to all at this point that most of what you are being told about Eircode is wholly misleading.
You are not correct Medium Sized C. Autoaddress’s building is 2 (distinct) buildings away from where the Eircode locates it. Autoaddress was the very company telling us that Eircode would identify every building with a postal address and this shows that Autoaddress’s own postal address has no Eircode.
And there’s more! If you use Eircode’s “direction” option via a smartphone, because the Eircode is mis-located, Google will navigate you to the road at the other side of the building from where there is no access and at the wrong end of a one way system too!
So the Eircode will not get you within 105m of the door, let alone 5 as you suggest! And there are many more examples of this around the country already published via twitter and the worst of them are in rural areas where the need to help people find properties is greatest.
How did this happen? Autoaddress told everyone on twitter that Eircode did not need to be tested because An Post already knew how to deliver letters. It also forgot that no one is really interested in where the geometric centre of a building block is but instead need to know how to get into it!
They are not the same building. https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Inns+Court,+Winetavern+St,+Dublin+8/@53.3438568,-6.271816,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKfvgobsI3rK0Lv2rZCD9iw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKfvgobsI3rK0Lv2rZCD9iw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D64.60627%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x48670c263124ac67:0x509af70018bf8d6f!2sInns+Court,+Winetavern+St,+Dublin+8!3b1!3m1!1s0x48670c263124ac67:0x509af70018bf8d6f
No, that photo shows quite clearly that they’re not. 5m is quite a lot of space in an urban area, as this shows – it’s next-door-but-one.
And I’m sure they rushed to inform Eircode of this so the system could be updated for the benefit of everyone?
Or did they just go score points on the internet?
Autoaddress, who was involved in the Eircode implementation, was advised of issues with their own code several months ago and their reaction was to recommend using other coding systems instead of Eircode including what3words and their own w3w code is “clots.monkey.verse” !
Such recommendations to use alternative coding systems instead of Eircode has been done without the knowledge or approval of the Eircode contracting authority;- the Department of Communications, who are oblivious to the serious limitations of Eircode and the Public Safety issues that would arise if the Emergency Services were ever to try using it! Thankfully Paul Bell, the Emergency Services rep in SIPTU has already recognised the serious limitations and has urged the National Ambulance service not to use Eircode. Have a listen:
http://www.radiocms.net/content/hose/media/001718/1756829_1402152.mp3
and to be fully correct, a full analysis of all limitations was communicated to an Oireachtas Committee in advance of rollout but the committee Chairman indicated that it was too technical! Document is here: http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/media/committees/transportandcommunications/GDelaney_JCTC-in-conjunction-with_Presentation.pdf
Eircode has been a joke from the outset, & to accuse anyone pointing out further failings of point scoring rather than accept the fact is no less than z1627fds
the issue in the design of Eircode contributing to the Autoaddress problem is identified in paragraph 6.h. in this document on the Oireachtas website:
http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/media/committees/transportandcommunications/GDelaney_JCTC-in-conjunction-with_Presentation.pdf
When will we grow up enough as a nation to a point where we can unabashedly and without hesitation copy things the Brits have already poured money into?
Their postcode system is easiest thing in the world to understand and, shock horror, actually relate to one another.
see pages 8, 9 & 10 of this document:
http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/media/committees/transportandcommunications/GDelaney_JCTC-in-conjunction-with_Presentation.pdf
Eircode & Address Failures are now a major Public safety issue in Ireland:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/address-eircode-failures-urgent-public-safety-issue-gary-delaney?trk=pulse_spock-articles