Pro life farmer John O’Gorman on The People’s Debate, TV3 last night.
Nat writes:
Turns out we were nowhere near full bumpkin yesterday. Mindblowingly backward opinion about how giving birth will reduce the trauma of the rape.
No idea why Vinny [host Vincent Browne] didn’t rush down off the podium and batter him about the head with the microphone, pausing every now and again to ask him if that was Luciferian enough.
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Look at the funny monkey Mammy.
Don’t stare honey.
Like ABM come to life….
He thinks women are like cows….
+1 fine heifer with good birthing hips
Sure, you’ll be grand after you squeeze out the babby and eat the afterbirth! No more trauma!
he probably bought his wife.
and i wonder how he knows about the soothing effects of childbirth after rape? first hand knowledge or did he read it in ‘ireland’s own’?
Or won her in a poker match
http://www.makerightsreal.ie/?gclid=CLHA0fiU0ckCFQaK2wod7oML0Q
oh, happy human rights day, btw
And Alfred Noble Day in Sweden!
It truly is amazing, what a neanderthal.
Wow.
Also, I bet there are sweatshops in Bangladesh racing to recreate that pimptastic rig-out in time for Christmas..
What a disgrace…
Did he say “her juicy instincts will kick in”?
I kind of hope so.
Did someone call me?
I’ve been calling you all my life, baby.
Take it easy mate.
You’re teasing me now
Bizarre remarks aside, why don’t we drink in that retina-scorching outfit? A whole, wide world of No!
Right wing loonies and bleeding heart liberals. Different side of the same coin.
One side thinks childbirth is a cure for rape, the other thinks this is horrific nonsense. Utterly equivalent.
One crazy extreme thinks childbirth makes up for rape. The other extreme side is content to turn a blind eye to Kermit Gosnell’s illegal antics and other legal late term abortions.
Yes, everyone knew about Gosnell’s antics and just turned a blind eye to them.
I’m talking about the deafening silence from Broadsheet and the Irish pro-choice movement in general on the facts as they’ve emerged. It’s like it never happened.
I found at least 5 BS posts where pro-choice people had discussed Gosnell using Google just now.
Don’t know about Broadsheet, but I read a lot of US commentary from pro-chice people, mostly pointing out how the real story was the appalling standards of health care available to poor people.
Of course, if abortion was easily accessible and not too expensive for women in the US then he would never have had the chance to see patients at all.
“legal late term abortions” – the hint is at the start of that sentence…
The evidence of “best-practice” abortionists at his trial is worth knowing. Gosnell and his staff were up to all kinds of illegal stuff. Actually stabbing multiple, live, screaming babies. What the legal, best practice abortionists pointed out is that when their babies are born Alice they provide “comfort care” by covering them with a warm towel until they die.
Poking fun at wacky pro-life farmers is one thing. But the reality of some, actual, legal abortions is worth discussing – if we’re to allow abortion in Ireland.
Alive
I know what legal ate term abortions involve. I know they don’t involve actively killing foetuses, as you point out that is illegal. And I’m ok with them to a degree.
The BEST thing you can come up with is ‘turn a blind eye’ in terms of Gosnell, a vague and poorly-defined and eternally shifting standard. This guy was given a national stage tel us what he thinks. Gosnell’s in jail.
To what degree Don? Would you prefer they included a hot water bottle with the towel?
newsjustin this crazy is an Irish crazy. Gosnell and his staff were not. Are their activities standard operating procedure in abortion clinics throughout the world and therefore something we should expect here in the event of abortion becoming available? If, as I suspect given how much attention they got, they are the exception then they are less relevant than the opinions of the Irish electorate.
I’d prefer they give them an overdose of morphine.
So news isn’t allowed use examples of of his view from outside ireland?
Great, we won’t be seeing any examples of Canada’s abortion laws from now on so.
Ah come on Rotide. Here we have an Irish fella saying that raped women will feel better if they have the babies. This is, rightly, being ridiculed. newsjustin is trying to distract from the crazy by dragging in the Gosnell stuff yet again. newsjustin shoehorns this Gosnell stuff into every single reference to abortion on this site since the news on Gosnell broke. Nobody is saying he’s not entitled to mention it but it’s obvious that this is the only example he has meaning it’s clearly not the norm so if anything it’s a reason for Ireland to have decent oversight, not a reason to reject abortion outright.
I know reprobertie and I agree with all of that entirely.
The only thing I’d say is that people are very quick to use evidence from abroad when it suits them and rubbish it when not.
Are both of those sides the anti-women side? Because I don’t know anyone on the pro-choice side that supports ‘childbirth makes up for rape’ or badly run medical clinics of any sort.
And can we keep this to Ireland. Gosnell? Really? A clinic that was running “non-comliant” for three decades? You do what non-compliant means don’t you? It means not to standard, so no one on the pro-choice side would support that.
Your example is ridiculous nonsense in that respect because it is NOT something the pro-choice side supports.
I mean, do you see me running off screaming about the Central African Christian countries that continue with female genital mutilation and then I could blame Christianity for that….. but that would be stupid. Like your stupid comment.
See my comment above re legal, best practice abortions.
Most abortions occur before 12 weeks. What’s your point other than to confuse the issue with something that isn’t being asked for?
Most.
Abortion on demand/request would seem to mean just that.
Would it? Where’s the pro-choice platform demanding late term abortions on demand? I’ll disagree with it it makes you feel better. On the other hand can you state definitively that late term abortions are never ever a medical necessity?
“Abortion on demand/request would seem to mean just that”
Seem to you to mean that. Not to others.
Isn’t it great to be a man!? Lets keep our opinions going on women’s access to health care.
this ‘abortion on demand’ doesn’t actually exist, though does it? any termination in a jurisdiction where it is legal is sought in conjunction with the advice of a doctor or clinical team. if i went into a hospital and ‘demanded’ say, a colonoscopy do you honestly think i’d be given one?
Scottser – you can certainly demand/book a colonoscopy at private hospitals. Just a routine check-up.
Women, on the other hand, require draconian legislative barriers between them and their healthcare because they’re women.
Don’t point it out so obviously Nigel, it makes me feel threatened and uncomfortable etc.
Nigel, Many commenters here have advocated late term abortions on demand.
I disagree with them. Does any country have a late term abortion on demand regime?
Canada is the only one i know of for sure.
Wouldya kill Baby Hitler though?
Will your thirst for dictatoricide never be quenched. They’re all dead dammit, all of the good dictators are dead, now we want to kill them as babies as well just to fill the void. I told you all when we killed all the dictators we’d be sorry when none were left but YOU wouldn’t listen.
Eamon knows his left from right. It’s like that time Lucinda Cretin said the far right and far left are the exact same thing. I can’t remember what the exact response was, but I do remember thinking that the far right murder migrants in Greece and the far left go out to stop these attacks. Not the exact same really.
Liberalism is an ideology, conservationism is an ideology; there social democrats, fascists, anarchists, socialists, all categories contains some of whom are libertarian, some authoritarian etc. There are all sorts of complex things going on in-between too. Funnily enough, I myself tend to think that people who proclaim certain ideological sways, and the hysterical individuals who claim to have no ideology, but actually do very little, or make any real effort to communicate, take responsibility, or do things to make the world a better places, from the myriad of perspectives that exist, those people are very much different sides of the same coin – standing at the edge interjecting when it suits. Of course I don’t know anything about you so this isn’t directed at you, jusayin’n’all’dat’der, generalising doesn’t usually lead to interesting or enlightened places.
But your man, jeeeeeeeeaysus!
Vincent Browne should have hauled that d*ckhead over the coals for those comments.
That wouldn’t have made the blindest bit of difference.
Pretty much never does.
Despite what everybody on the internet thinks.
Vincent didn’t need to.
This is a gift for the pro-choice side if anything.
Pkho abahhsh’n
Footage of the pro-choice rally has emerged:
http://youtu.be/hopeFgwApCM
I know who’s having more fun…
I’ve watched it a second time. He seems to know it all. We should just dismiss the Dail and place him in Leinster House instead. He knows all the “facts” and what everyone wants, shur didn’t 30,000 of the righteous not turn out up above in Dublin.
Tis a fact that “maternity instincts kick in” and the mother will just dote and look after the “babby” and not for one second consider who the father of her rape child is, because, ah lads shur it’s a babby!
women are so simple and straight forward, I’m glad we all gathered her to discuss and vote upon their reproductive rights.
I think he used the word “babe” when referring to the infant…….
Was his coat made from a zebra with hypothermia?
I’d say there would be a few *choice* highlights in his browsing history… It’s always these hardcore mentalists who are hiding something hardcore luciferian.
His biology teacher left for TD job before kids could learn anything. Glad he’s spoken out, hope department of education is taking notes.
he learned everything he knows from the vet.
*gets birthing ropes*
Open wide now Janice!!
He’s entitled to his views, but I’d feel more comfortable if someone could check his shed/basement, just to make sure he doesn’t have anyone in captivity.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”- Harlan Ellison
As long as that opinion is informed by things you agree with eh?
Forced childbirth as a therapeutic tool for rape victims is not an informed opinion rotide, whether you, I or anyone else agrees with it.
I may have to watch it again but didn’t he say it was a fact?
Most people don’t follow assertions my saying ‘fact’.
That’s how you willfully decide to put that quote into context? Perhaps try watching the video again.
Obviously this guy is a moron of the highest order. I don’t agree with him in the slightest and i heavily disagree with his opinion.
I’ll counter your quote with one of my own
“Opinions are like arseholes, everyone’s got one”
Tell that to my friend with the imperforate anus.
you try to settle an argument with a harlan ellison quote, who was described on the cover of one of his own books as ‘the most contentious person on earth’?
brilliant :)
Holy guacamole. Forget about your rape, you’ve a baby to look after.
Every kid in the country should make their parents watch this… and then sit them down and tell them about how they’ve been brainwashed since birth.
‘kid’ – anyone with a parent
I’d like to think this generation is dying out but judging by that rapping farmer kid on the late late toy show, the rural countryside will remain this way for decades to come.
“Say Massey, Zetor, ould John Deere
We’ll have no abortions here.
Demographic change won’t neuter us
Future farmers own your uterus.”
Sick beats, in fairness.
break it down
compost
break it down
neighbours fencing
A couple of my cousins are from the country and always comment when i post anything pro-choice. Sadly even with increased education in the rural parts of the country are taken their time to catch up with the rest of us.
Do you mean the rest of us in the cities where the polls are 100% pro choice?
That rest of us?
Yes.
What city are you living in?
Abortocity One
ha!
We should make him fight Tyson Fury for the Presidency of the Misguided Idiots and Bigots Award 2015.
Throw in Trump and have a good ol’ fashioned Battle Royale.
Or Battle Quarter Pounder as he prefers to call it
If you believe in time limits on abortion then you’re basically the same as Youth Defence.
Just arguing over semantics.
Your man above serves one purpose, and that’s one of pure comedy gold. He have me the best laugh I’ve had all day. (Ok, I’ve had a meh kinda day tbf).
I chortled at the outfit, snorted at the despicable hilarity of his rationale…And concluded with a newfound respect for Lucifer.