28 thoughts on “Meanwhile, In Galway

  1. Harry Molloy

    It’s uncomfortable for sure but maybe not a bad thing, we should have these uncomfortable conversations and we need to make our choices with our eyes open.

    I’m pro choice by the way but can understand the other side of the argument which can’t be completely written off as religious nuttery.

    1. dav

      I was around for the pictures of dead fetuses being handed out after mass on a weekday, these people will stoop a lot lower to maintain their control on womens’ bodies.

      1. Medium Sized C

        I was a kid back then. I remember feeling horrified. Then absolutely bloody furious at the campaigners. It really stuck with me.

  2. ____

    I’m disgusted.

    I can’t believe that people are lowering themselves to using that kind of graphic design in this day and age.
    Is there no end to the cruelty?

  3. Lorcan Nagle

    I saw a sticker in a car window the other day, with a picture of a foetus in vitro and the caption “I’ll be paying for Ireland someday” and a pro-life slogan. So many logical fallacies.

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      Apparently women should be breeding so there’s enough people to change their adult nappies in the nursing home in years to come!

    1. Atticus

      There’s a thing now, can we all start referring to them as the “Anti-choice” group from now on?

      I has the added bonus of sounding a lot like the Anti-Christ group.

  4. :-Joe

    Abortion discriminates?…. Eh no, gets rid of an unwanted fetus that might otherwise destroy the life of the host.

    All this stuff is trivial freedom of speech, if you want to hit back you need facts.

    Take the example from the freakonomics book about how New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani was credited for cleaning up the city of multiple levels of crime and daily assaults, rapes and murders.

    Well it was all BS because what really made the difference was abortion laws being changed twenty years earlier. Just like investing in anything with a long term view you will eventually see the fruits in credible results.

    Less people being forced to have unwanted babies is better for everyone.

    If you really want to help then be anti-NIMBY and lobby you’re local TD and demand an abortion clinic in your backyard until we have one in every postcode and county.

    If you’re not pro abortion you’re not just against womens rights, you’re anti-science and basic common sense.


    1. Lorcan Nagle

      There’s some debate as to whether the reduction in crime has a causative link to abortion access or a correlative one, but it’s definitely worth comparing to Ireland, as our current method of letting women travel if they have the money and can access the information definitely unfairly punishes poor people.

      It’s also worth noting the difference in teen pregnancy rates in areas with good sex education and access to abortion (such as, say New York), and those where there is little or no sex ed and highly restrictive access to abortion.

  5. DubLoony

    Reality is that most abortions take place in <9 weeks by women who are 18-25.
    Too early for any tests so show up problems.
    They just don't want to be pregnant full stop for whatever reason – too young, too poor, unstable relationships, want to be a proper adult first.

    We don't have to repeal the 8th to make affordabe contraception avaailble for this age group. Perhaps that is something that can be done that would have widespread support?

    1. Well

      Youth defence view contraception like condoms as creating an environment of casual sex that leads to unwanted pregancies and they claim others like the pill are abortifacient.

      So you wont get help from them in those areas

  6. GrungeRobertRectanglePants

    I don’t know what I found more disgusting, Their font choices or the chéile music they were blaring out

  7. Mulder

    i am not just sickened and disgusted but also i would like to add, appaled, so now.
    Just wonder do they intend to take that around the country.

  8. Rob

    How is this a new low for them?

    Is it not the same argument they’ve been using all along? Who/what were they saying was being killed previously?

    Pro-life / anti choice people believe that the foetus is a young person. Is this news to you, or are you just offended that they have chosen to air their view when you had your camera phone to hand?

  9. newsjustin

    What’s the matter? Isn’t it worth talking about the potential impacts of removing the 8th Amendment and making abortion more freely availabe?

    Making abortion more freely available in England has led to 90% of those foetuses with Downs Syndrome aborted. So it is a very relevant part of the debate.

    It’s important to have the discussion. It educates. Even in the last week we’ve seen a very prominent pro-choice TD shoe that she is entirely misinformed on the numbers of foetuses with Downs Syndrome being aborted in parts of the UK.

    Some will say that this is “muddying the water” and itd all about FFM but removing the 8th can have very significant impacts.

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      90% of those who opted for the amnio test, lots of women don’t, due to the risk of miscarriage. Anti choice groups dehumanise Down Syndrome kids with this kind of campaign, equating them with puppies (aw look aren’t they so cute!), not people with complex health and educational needs. If a woman gets a diagnosis and feels she isn’t capable of providing the lifelong care and protection needed then that’s her decision, particularly if she’s an older woman forseeing that she and her partner could be into their 70s and 80s caring for their special needs child. Will youth defense provide for the child when the parents are no longer capable?

      1. newsjustin

        Please Daisy. Nothing dehumanises a person more than saying they are not worthy of life or saying that the medical condition they suffer from gives others the excuse to say they are too much of a burden.

        But I’m glad we’re having this debate. The billboard has worked. It’s harder to stand over abortion when we speak about the people potentially affected by it.

  10. fran

    absolute joke of a pic. not all abnormalities are Downs, some more horrific,. fact is we are on par with the Arab countries on this matter and we lag behind our European counterparts. I believe if we had a referendum it would get passed but the governent is too chicken to do so. Ive being hearing this abortion issue for the last 25 yrs just do it ffs . Its not a question that these babies will not be loved, you have to look at the broader picture. every case is different and no one has the right to tell people what to do. repeal it ta fupp

  11. Inopera

    We should look at Poland’s efforts to restrict and be concerned. We’re supposed to be a bit ahead of their regime and you yet cannot abort in the case of a fatal foetal abnormality. European groups are trying to restrict abortion access much the same way the Texans were..and even if you could be pro choice but privately oppposed, we need to allow access for women.

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