36 thoughts on “De Saturday Papers

  1. Formerly known as @ireland.com

    I think the Examiner’s French flag/ red truck tyre track image is inappropriate.

      1. Bertie Blenkinsop

        Saw this on Twitter

        PUB QUIZ 2036

        “In what year….”

        “2016. It’s ALWAYS 2016”.

  2. martco

    jasus the print lads will be on double overtime….again

    its all kicking off in Turkey now

    military coup…tanks at the parliament and shooting @ airport

  3. Diddy

    The valiant Turkish army have called halt to Erdogans attempts to return turkey into an Islamic and not secular state. Isis are

  4. Formerly known as @ireland.com

    Now Kurds, this is your chance to gain independence. I don’t recommend taking the GPO or any biscuit factories.

  5. Kieran NYC

    Looks like a faction of the Turkish army have attempted a coup. Civilians seem to be taking to the streets to thwart them.

    That picture on The Times is tough to see.

  6. Formerly known as @ireland.com

    I saw this on an Aussie site and thought it was worth posting here:

    As Turkey looks to be on the brink of civil war, and France reels from the second mass attack on its citizens in eight months, the words of Vladimir Lenin take on a certain resonance.

    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.”

  7. Harry Molloy

    I am open to correction on this but I think this has happened before in Turkey for the very same reason, to protect secularism. Think it may even be in the constitutional, Ottaturk seemed to have any good idea of what it took to be at modern state and so enshrined secularism.
    I used to work with all bunch of Turkish lads, they were really pissed off when Erdogans wife started wearing an headscarf.
    It’s also worth remembering that the east west split within the country itself is significant, the east leaning more towards conservative Islam, the west leaning towards modern liberalism.

    hope there’s no bloodshed.

  8. some old queen

    According to Euro News, one of the stumbling blocks of Turkey joining the EU was its powerful army and that now the government will be arguing for faster integration because it has proved that it is in control.

    I wonder if this is in anyway connected to France?

    1. some old queen

      Oh! Still in moderation. I don’t want to gossip or anything but I heard down the pub that the BroadSheet government has been overthrown in a military coup by the ICA?

      More news as we get it.

  9. Twunt

    None of the papers are covering the revelation that the French government suppressed evidence the Bataclan attackers mutilated their victims by gouging out eyes and removing genitalia.

    1. Harry Molloy

      I don’t think that was at bad thing, families were devastated enough without hearing those explicit details. But I understand the concern that there wasn’t full disclosure

      1. Harry Molloy

        was on the independent and times websites yesterday, might still be there, horrific stuff

      1. Deluded

        Are we really doing this?
        http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-25946920
        Is it history or current affairs?
        http://m.en.rfi.fr/visiting-france/20101202-1961-algerians-massacred-paris-streets
        It’s gruesome I know but I don’t understand the point you are getting at with gore-porning over Bataclan and Luxor.
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trophy_collecting
        Is it the targetting of children? (NSFL links)
        Is it because yesterday’s jihadist turned out to be just some violent criminal?
        I would recommend Paul Vann’s “A Bright Shining Lie” if you would like some cultural comparisons from a different region with respect to mutilation and psychological dominance in conflict.
        Here’s an RT link about an Iraq war inquiry because nobody reads the Guardian.
        https://www.rt.com/news/uk-denies-iraq-mutilation-claims-332/
        I am madly in love with our civilisation but I question our actions and attitudes and I must say that the millions of displaced and abused people are actually quite non-violent about the whole thing in my opinion.

        1. martco

          unfair
          not gore porning (me anyhow)
          trying to understand even at this stage in my life how and why people do these things to each other…is it reap what you sow or just evil….I dunno anymore straight up.
          thanks for that Paris massacre info

        2. Deluded

          I was a bit full-on, martco, my apologies.*

          We’ve struggled with racism and terrorism here and the targetting of civilians, but in general I can’t say that European nations have convinced anyone that violent revolution isn’t the only way to be heard.

          *(I was happily oblivious, to be honest, until I first read about the French Foreign Legion).

    2. rotide

      I’d imagine none of the papers are reporting it because it’s completely made up and they are not complete idiots?

  10. Lilly

    Why has the EU denounced this coup? Surely we should be cheering them on in their efforts to promote secularism.

  11. martco

    @Deluded not a problem, thanks sincerely
    I have a pair of teens, they’re into everything. I’ve always tried to teach them best I can about life like most da’s.
    when it comes to local politics and the like I rely a fair bit on that old SLF catchphrase “assume nothing, question everything” that there’s a few viewpoints to every story and EVERYONE has an agenda and sometimes when sway is needed will message and twist and optic and spin..yada yada….so for me I’m heavily suspicious of any religion, actually sorry truth is for me it’s pure command and control bollox but I haven’t taught my kids that – that’s MY conclusion and my viewpoint – I want them to do the questioning and the reading and the concluding for themselves
    this stuff is causing me massive distress however….when they ask “why?” did yer man mow those people down I don’t actually have an answer…of any kind. and I’m also wondering what is the story for them in 10 years from now will be.
    typical convention for me is that there’ll always be someone in a given scenario who when harmed will look to harm back and harder if possible…but despite decency there will always be one…that a lot of atrocities is (was) what we get for past centuries and decades years of colonial aggression, rape & pillage, slavery, interference.
    but some of this stuff I can’t process atall…sorry wandering with a pint in front of me…

    1. Deluded

      Yep, I understand you fully this time!
      … I hope our kids will learn to balance skepticism with an open mind, critical thinking with learning who to trust because we can’t know everything. I hoped that in showing some respect they could learn to respect themselves and build from there.
      Apologies again for taking the SJW red-alert nuclear option; now it’s a lovely day here, it was the kind of morning that would make you believe in a god ^_^

  12. gorugeen

    Way to give Erdogan a cast iron opportunity to islamise Turkey and row back on democracy.

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