For Your Consideration: We Face This Land

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Anna Cosgrave, of the Repeal Project, writes:

This film features a spoken word piece by novelist Sarah Maria Griffin (Not Lost, Spare and Found Parts) performed by a variety of Irish women including Tara Flynn, Aoibhinn McGinnity, Seána Kerslake, Róisín Ingle, Ailbhe Smyth, Una Mullaly, Senator Lynn Ruane and her daughter Jordanne Jones, Charlene McKenna, Eleanor Methven, Louise Bruton, Sinead Gleeson, MayKay and Niamh Algar.

The film is the culmination of the time and effort of almost 100 people who kindly donated resources and skills for free.

Directed by Dave Tynan (Just Saying, Rockmount); produced by Dave Leahy and Liam Ryan, of Warrior Films, and Michael Donnelly V, of MDV. Cinematography by JJ Rolfe; post-production in Screen Scene with Juniper Calder.

Music: Lucid by Mmoths.

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Previously:  ‘It’s Time To Right This Awful Wrong’

Thanks Mark O’Toole

 

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61 thoughts on “For Your Consideration: We Face This Land

  1. fweed

    Is that Greystones Beach?

    Great video and congratulations on a job well done. We’re with you all the way.

    #fweetheweed

          1. Zuppy International

            It’s stupid to admit the truth?

            Well if you’re trying to propagandise a nation into killing their own children then you may have a point.

          2. mildred st. meadowlark

            Yes, you’re right of course. I have a committed campaign to see every child in Ireland aborted. I want compulsory abortions for all the women, and men too.

            Zuppy, no woman should be trapped by her circumstances. I just want my daughter to have the freedom to make a choice, about her body, should she need it. I want her to be supported by the State she was born into, the one I pay taxes to, and have lived in my whole life.

          3. mildred st. meadowlark

            That is precisely what I want, if it is right for her. That sort of emotive argument won’t work on me. I’m quite familiar with what abortion entails, and the consequences of that choice. My daughter’s well-being comes before any foetus.

          4. Zuppy International

            Fair enough. Admission is the start. Will you also allow your daughter the right to acknowledge and admit she is committing the murder of your grandchild? With your consent?

    1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      Abortion is abortion. Murder is murder. They’re different things: the clue is in the fact they have different names.

      I hope this helps.

      1. Zuppy International

        Different words can have the same meaning.

        Assassination, homicide, slay, massacre, annihilate, butcher, kill, hit, liquidate, whack, do in, wipe out, bump off, sniff out, knock off, slaughter, exterminate, waste…

        I hope this helps.

        1. Djin Genie

          Try a dictionary, Zuppy, or better yet a thesaurus.

          Abortion is “the deliberate termination of a human pregnancy, most often performed during the first 28 weeks”. The list of synonyms and related words centre on concepts of miscarriage, nonfeasance and unsuccessfulness. The english language clearly does not associate the expulsion of a foetus with the concept of murder or any of the words on your list. Abortion is not murder. The words do not have the same meaning, it’s a leap you’ve chosen to make yourself.

          Here: http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/abortion

          I hope this helps. Not being flippant, I actually do.

  2. Eamonn Clancy

    Eh, it’s a bit corny, it’s like a sketch from The Fast Show. A classic example of why men do better in film and theatre than women. So far up its own hoop an Israeli snatch squad couldn’t get it back out.

      1. Leela2011

        :) I have to say I found it powerful. Yes there’s a certain cringe factor with anything Irish made but this is a serious issue and it was dealt with beautifully

  3. Metropolitan

    Great work, powerful piece of art very well made. It’s unfortunate that it will probably preach to the converted in the social media echo chamber and not impact much upon “middle Ireland”.

    I hope I’m wrong.

    1. Clampers Outside!

      Em… no, not exactly… it’s not middle Ireland that needs converting… it’s women and the religious over 55s from what I can see….

      http://www.redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/157316-%E2%80%93-Amnesty-International-Feb-2016-040316-Press-Release.pdf

      RED C Poll – Feb 2016
      “Believe expanding access to abortion should be one of the priority issues for the next government”
      56% male
      55% female

      Believe Irish politicians should show leadership and deal proactively with the issue of widening access to abortion in Ireland
      65% male
      62% female

      Believe the fact that women must travel abroad to access abortion unfairly discriminates against women who cannot afford or are unable to travel abroad
      72% male
      71% female

      Believe it is hypocritical that Ireland’s constitution bans abortion in Ireland but allows women to travel abroad for abortions
      66% female
      65% male

      Believe under international human rights law, women have a human right to access abortion in Ireland where the pregnancy is a result of rape or incest, where their health is at risk or where there is a diagnosis of fatal foetal abnormality
      82% male
      78% female

      Believe the government should decriminalise abortion, which means removing the criminal penalty for women who have abortion in Ireland
      72% male
      71% female

      Believe that the fact that abortion is classified as a crime except when a woman’s life is at risk
      adds to the distress of women who need an abortion
      68% male
      62% female

      Believe travelling abroad for an abortion IS traumatic for a woman
      67% female
      63% male

      Believe we need to trust women when they say they need an abortion
      69% female
      67% male

      Believe men have a responsibility to be part of the discussion on women’s right to access abortion
      65% male
      55% female
      Kind of odd this, when there are more men pro-abortion than women… you’d think they would want the support.

      Believe the Government should hold a referendum to allow people to vote on whether or not to remove the 8th amendment from the Constitution
      75% male
      71% female

      Have very conflicted views on abortion because of their religion
      20% female
      20% male
      Mostly over 55’s in this category…

      Opposed in ALL circumstances
      5% female
      4% male

      In fairness, yes, the differences are small in some of these, but the trend is clear… more men want abortion than women, and fewer men are opposed outright than women…

      I wasn’t sure that would be the case, but there it is…. the main other hindrance it would appear are the over 55’s male and female who are religious.

      1. mildred st. meadowlark

        Nice job Clampers. The longer they ignore this, the bigger the issue becomes. They can’t keep shoving their heads in the sand though.

        Had to lol at the question about trusting a woman when she says she needs an abortion though. Are they effing serious? It’s not a decision you just make for the poo and giggles.

        1. Clampers Outside!

          +1

          And some quizzical inducing results in there… particularly “Believe that the fact that abortion is classified as a crime except when a woman’s life is at risk adds to the distress of women who need an abortion”…. 68 to 62… M to F
          I would have thought most women would have empathised somewhat more, at least more than men… :/ Hmmmm….

  4. newsjustin

    Beyond parody in its “look at me, I’m speaking directly into the camera and speaking very slowly because I’m very serious” naffness.

    Seriously, if this was about any other subject, that BS wasn’t aligned with, it would rightly be poked fun at.

    Witches, “stethoscopes become crucifixes”, such nonsense.

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      I’m sure if you ask Cora or David or Yank Defense, they’d throw you a few dollars to make a counter peice, maybe with a bit of misinformation about cancer & child abuse… Oh and some misogyny thrown in for good measure

      1. newsjustin

        But I don’t want to make a video, about abortion or anything else you mention.

        OK. Maybe I’m biased because I’m against abortion, but do people really think that this video, especially the script, is good? Is it not cringe? The shots filmed “floating” on top of the swell are good, alright.

        1. rotide

          I’m in favor of repeal and I’d agree with you.

          Particularly not in favor of the gregorian chanting at the end

    1. Clampers Outside!

      It’s not going to convince anyone, it’s not going to change anything but everyone that agrees with them will high five each other.

      This isn’t really campaigning it’s virtue signalling to the converted… those that need convincing won’t see this.

      #RepealThe8th

      #VirtueSignallingIsNotCampaigningItsPreachingToTheConvertedAndIsAWasteOfTime

      1. Nigel

        ‘Preaching to the converted is a waste of time’ seems more like a truism than an actual thing, and I think I’ve said this before bit energising and mobilising the people who do already agree with you is hardly a waste of time. Taking their active support for granted might be a fairly elementary mistake.

        1. Clampers Outside!

          True…. but it is really tedious, and there is no shortage of these either, but there is a shortage of campaigns to reach the “uncool” not so “right on”, who will vote against… in fact, I know of no campaign, when I asked my Mum if she’d got any pro-abortion lit… “…just the stuff I hear on Radio 1 and RTE”

          And she IS the target – over 55 religious, and female – and the Repeal campaign is missing that target by a wide mark!

          1. rotide

            In fairness Clampers, what videos like this do is energise the existing support base (I apologise for that sentance, I’ve never sounded so middle management).

            The people who need to be converted will be converted by people enthused by this sort of stuff. I find it a bit cringey but I can’t argue with the sentiment and if people are motivated into activism it can’t be a bad thing.

          2. Nially

            Aside from how deeply unconvincing “I asked my mammy and she said…” is as anecdata, it’s worth mentioning that no one who isn’t looking for information or writing on abortion right now has gotten any “lit”, pro or anti. There’s no point printing leaflets or going door to door or running short, broad-based ads when there isn’t a referendum date or a widespread campaign to be run yet. People said the exact same thing ahead of the marriage equality referendum; up to April last year, people were moaning about an inwardly-focused campaign that ‘preached to the choir’, but that pre-campaign work mobilised a huge crowd of people to leaflet and go door-to-door and make the argument to their families. At this stage, getting your core group energised is way more important than making the message soft, palatable and widely spread; your mam will hear about it when there’s a referendum date.

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