17 thoughts on “Left Holding The Baby

  1. Martin Bishop

    The childcare industry is very simply a poo industry to be in,
    When the recession hit my wife ended up working in that industry due to problems finding work elsewhere,

    She did 50hours a week,
    She only earned a little over 10e an hour
    She got shag all benefits

    When her employer pushed for her to upskill from level 6 (or effectively face being downgraded in her role) so she ended up doing a Degree (Level 8) the net result of which was zero pay increase as the employer just pocketed the extra rate money given to them by the Government.

    Benefits are next to zero as child care employers normally don’t give any maternity benefits (other then what the state provide which anyone can get), don’t give any paid sick and only give minimum holidays.

    In the end she left the industry and now works for the HSE. a world of difference in relation to pay and benefits!

    Honestly for anyone thinking they should train to work in that industry or anyone planning to stay in the industry they would want to have their heads examine. Its a money racket and it only benefits the employers not the employee’s.

    Wanting employee’s to have degree levels but you’re only willing to pay them 10-11e an hour is a utter joke. Unskilled call centre jobs pay more then that!

    The best thing the Government could do is link child care (certainly the pre-school year) in under the Department of Education as certainly in the pre-school year the job performed is what teachers used to do in baby infants…learning ABC’s etc.

    1. AlisonT

      Have to agree the industry is a mess. Subvention is badly needed as the carer ratios for young children make it very difficult for a creche to make money on babies and pay a decent wage to the staff. Either the ratios need to change or subvention is needed.

  2. curmudegeon

    So I notice they’re all out there protesting, which is great and all, but how about they do the sensible thing and form a union thereby forcing all employers to pay them a set wage.

  3. Junkface

    Child care workers are paid almost the bare minimum wage, yet childcare costs in Ireland are as usual, the most expensive in Europe! Where does all that money go? The bosses

    Thanks Capitalism, Ireland gets ridden again

    1. curmudgeon

      Hmm if only there was some way of organising the workers into some sort of organisation where by the members decide to not work for less than an agreed amount based upon their accredited qualifications.

  4. Jake38

    It would be interesting to see where all the money really goes in the childcare “industry”?

    Does anyone have a breakdown?

    1. curmudgeon

      Feel free to write to the private creche companies and ask for a copy. Let us know how you get on.

    1. curmudgeon

      Doesn’t matter since the crèche employers only want to hire level 6 or 7 childcare graduates. But if they are smart enough to get a degree then they should be clever enough to unionise. From there lobby the govt to implement regulations prohibiting crèches to employ non accredited workers.

      1. Neilo

        Employees may be permitted to join unions but employers aren’t obliged to negotiate – is that the case with IR law here? Either way, that wage is not great.

    2. spudnick

      Yeah. Sure that’s all teachers are doing in schools too. Glorified holding pattern til the parents get home from work, right? Slash their wages.

    3. Barbara

      Elizabeth, I am shocked at your ignorance. Educate yourself on the importance of Early Years education and the vital work Early years workers provide to society. Sadly that attitude is not unique to you, and seems to be shared among some of our legislators.

  5. Michael Kenny

    The issue of low wages in the sector and the high cost on parents is purely down to the chronic underfunding of the sector by the government. All services including employees and employers need to unionise to force the government to invest properly like the rest of Europe.

  6. Prudence

    I have to agree with Barbara, Elizabeth unfortunately you are not the only person in Ireland who undervalues the importance of the care and education provided by the hard (really hard working) dedicated, passionate (because lets face it passion is the only thing keeping is in the sector) practitioners, most of whom have funded themselves to get the degrees which supports the quality services provided in this country. It is attitudes like yours at public and governmental level that doesnt bode well for the children of our future when the passion and commitment is knocked out of the current plethora of practitioners who eventually give in to the distain and demoralisation being thrown at them year after year while they hope for a better future for the children they work with but also for themselves, their families and their own childrens

  7. Marian Quinn

    Unfortunately many of the employers are also struggling to take a wage. Successive govts. fail to invest in early years education and care and so the wages of providers and employees must subsidise the high fees that parents pay. In some schemes parents don’t provide any top up so the full scheme is paid for my the state and the rate is inadequate to cover all costs. Given adult:child ratio, wage bill costs between 60-80% of income and then there are overheads such as insurance, rates, resources, utilities, premises, etc to be covered. (Many have had insurance hikes of 50% this year). This is a very heavily regulated profession and it costs to meet the regulations.
    Wages are similar in community sector and there are no ’employers’ there so obviously, in the majority of cases, the problem lies elsewhere! Unions are organising to push the govt. to increase their woeful investment and the plan is to index link this investment to agreed payscales for all those working in the profession.
    For example, when all requirements are taken into consideration the ‘free pre-school year’ pays approx €2 per child per hour and each staff member cares for a max 11 children. Now do the maths and you will see that there is little scope for ‘creaming’ in most services!

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