Ugh.

Related: Rent increases in private rented housing (Citizens Information)

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53 thoughts on “How Much?

    1. DubLoony

      They were brought in to try to stop the no notice increases.
      The obscene levels now are outrageous. How are, mainly, young adults supposed to live a life with those rates?

      A friend had 1,200 in old place, now being let for 1,700 a month later.

      1. Chris

        It’s not that I don’t agree it’s just a fact it was like throwing petrol on a fire, the prices hiked that very day as landlords dashed to lock in even higher rents and now we witness frenzied attempts to increase even higher before any further restriction may be applied.

    2. Antoine D'Alton

      I see the grubbers are at it again….

      So, let’s just ask a question. How can an apartment in Dublin, where according to the 2016 census, there are 36,000 vacant properties, have more expensive rents that 1. Amsterdam. 2. Berlin. 3. Paris?

      Remember this is a city where the metropolitan population is just over 1 million, in one of the most sparsely populated countries in Europe.

      The law of supply and demand do not add-up….unless there is anti-competitive practices at work.

      Time to demand real answers from Simon Coveney?

      1. Richard Pound

        Coveney is only interested in forcing through water tax & privatising it. He is a snake in the grass.

      2. Nikkeboentje

        The rent is Dublin cannot be directly compared to Amsterdam, Berlin and Paris. Simply because in those cities, the tenant pays an additional amount on top of the rent for service charges. In Dublin the tenant only pays rent (it is up to the landlord to pay the services charges from the rental income he receives). Also, the vast majority of rented accommodation in Dublin is fully furnished, usually on the continent the norm is for unfurnished apartments/houses. Here in Luxembourg it is usually a minimum of €250 per month more expensive to rent a furnished apartment. In addition, in several European countries, it is the tenant that has to pay the letting agent (usually one month’s rent plus VAT). So all in all, tenants in Dublin don’t have it as bad as you think

        1. emmaxeler8c

          Tenants are also subject to service charges – especially in the new build market. Not all apartments come furnished – and when they do, I can promise you it’s not IKEA but cr*p picked up in a market dating back to the 70s…(remember them lovely sofa’s with the wooden arm rests?) and finally rents are either arranged one month in advance + one month’s deposit to either the LL or the LA.
          Finally, tenants have far LESS rights than our European counterparts.. so I’m afraid I can’t agree with your above statement. :(

          1. Nikkeboentje

            Every tenant, no matter the country, has to pay least one month’s rent in advance plus a deposit. In Luxembourg, I had to pay three month’s rent in advance plus three month’s rent as a deposit PLUS pay the agent’s letting fee of one month’s rent and VAT (in Ireland the landlord pays the letting agent). I had to sign a three year lease and if I left before the end of the lease I lost my three months advance rent. Also at the end of the lease, the tenant has to arrange for the apartment to be professional cleaned AND newly painted. In Ireland, it is almost impossible to hold back deposit money for the property to be freshly painted after a tenancy as “fair wear and tear” is allowed.
            So, the grass is not always greener.

  1. anne

    Enda Kenny was asked about this recently by Roisin Shortall and he admitted to not knowing that the 2 year moratorium on rent increases was expiring for some people..he also spoke about people wanting to be homeless. the goon

    1. DubLoony

      800,000 thousand people now rent, and he didn’t know that? Obviously not his base.

      DCC recently stopped prioritizing those in hotels, using points system instead because there was some anecdotal evidence that people who had previously lived with parents, falling out with them, and having to move out.
      How true that is, haven’t a clue but does demonstrate the desperation of people.

      Build more affordable houses.

    2. Junkface

      How can it be expiring for some people? I thought that the rent freeze only expires in December 2017 (according to Citizens Information) if you were already renting a home when it came in. Am I wrong?

        1. Cian

          “This Act, other than section 25 , subparagraph (i) of paragraph (a) of subsection (1) of section 26 , section 26 (2) and section 31 , shall come into operation on such day or days as the Minister may appoint by order or orders either generally or with reference to any particular purpose or provision and different days may be so appointed for different purposes or provisions.”

          it’s not the date the act was signed into law, but the date that Minister provisions it that counts.

        1. Junkface

          Good work. Enda Kenny really is the worst Gombeen, redneck clown we’ve ever had as a leader. He’s totally out of touch with reality.

          1. Illuminati16

            Bertie. . Haughey etc.. the howiyas are no better as leaders…. and the slimiest snake varadkar is their next great white hope… lol

  2. Mr. Camomile T

    Between these rent hikes and the relaxation of the Central Bank’s mortgage rules it’s almost as if there’s a concerted effort to get a certain generation of Irish people back onto the ‘Property Ladder’ and into the pockets of our reformed (ahem) banking sector.

    “But we’ve seen where that leads…”

    “Tough sh1t, we own you now.”

  3. Bruncvik

    Sounds about right. I was paying 1550. Moved out about three months prior to the two-year trigger. My former landlord rented the place out within a week for 1900. And that’s still below the rate other apartments in the same building are offered for.

  4. Bandy

    from 875 -> 1100 for me.. and that’s getting away lightly.. ):

    Did you know that the 26th July movement was heavily influenced by the perceived injustice of needing to spend >25% of your earnings on rent? Would that we were as organised and outraged about a far higher proportion being required now..

  5. Starina

    riddle me this – my lease will be at only a year in the new year – do i still have another year before i’m screwed or does it not count under the two-year moratium?

    1. anne

      you have another year starina.

      it’s 2 years before the landlord can increase your rent.

      the reason it’s affecting some people now, is because when it was introduced in dec 2015, it was retrospectively effective from 2014.

      (i.e dec 2014 first lease, dec 2015 second lease..2016 the gouger can increase your rent.

      or 2015 first year of lease, 2016 second year..2017 they can ask for an increase. you’re supposed to be given 3 months written notice also)

      1. Increasing Displacement

        The 3 months notice can only apply from the end of your contract. So you have until 3 months after the end of your contract to pay the new rate.

        So PTRB told me anyhow.

        1. Neilo

          Get that liquor cabinet started NOW, Starina!

          On a more serious note, I’d have a substantial mortgage but those rents freakin’ terrify me. Everyone of ye struggling with extortionate outlay have my sympathy (and we all know where that’s found in the dictionary).

  6. Daisy Chainsaw

    Landlords are a fuppin scourge on humanity. You only have to look at the “quality” of the accommodation being offered on the likes of Daft.ie to see they’re opportunistic pusbags.

        1. Bob

          You don’t have to own property to point out you made a stupid generalisation. Seriously, think about what you said.

  7. Junkface

    This will cause chaos in all over the country but especially in Dublin.

    Why would people in their 20’s even consider staying in Ireland? The Gov’t obviously don’t want you here, they don’t want a functioning society. They’ve proven it,.

  8. Sheik Yahbouti

    Was going to comment – can’t because of anger and intemperance. Will consider it later, when I have calmed down.

    1. Neilo

      You’ll do yourself a mischief, Sheikh. Think happy thoughts of the night you missed the last bus home because Danny Kaye wouldn’t get offstage at the Theatre Royal.

  9. Antoine D'Alton

    Talk is cheap. There comes a point when you must do something. Either you are organised to force change or you allow yourself to be rolled over. When do the Irish give up on fatalism and actually start really demanding change…..

    1. Rob_G

      Not that I disagree with the main thrust of what you are saying, but are you personally doing anything about it?

  10. Spud1

    My LL is well within his rights to up my rent by 600pm to get ‘market rates’ next year.
    Thank feck I’m almost closed on a property where will keep my repayments around the same as my current rent.
    I feel sorry for those who are desperately trying to save and to buy and will be hit by a massive rent increase over the coming months.

  11. Boy M5

    That’s what happens when you sell your children’s future to the Vulture Funds.

    People should be on the streets over this.

    Oh, they are.

    1. Junkface

      We should all just refuse to pay the rent increases and stay in our homes en masse. See how the government handles trying to evict 300K people from their rented homes in one go.

      Irish landlords have a very, very bad reputation, of course its not 100% of them, but the number is very high and reflects badly on how Irish people treat each other in our modern culture of greed. We need new tenancy laws so the pigs don’t gorge themselves to death and create chaos in the housing market.

  12. Ben

    Not big on the understanding of Irish politics as we moved over from the UK but I can see this is all very corrupt and money greasing others palms seems to be the norm & accepted conditions. It obviously has to stop. The problems seem to have arisen because of a few things, the biggest is introducing all the multinational companies with low tax incentives all at the same time. This has created a huge influx of everyone and their dog moving to a tiny city. The government hasn’t then built the infrastructure to cope with it, this isn’t just housing it is also maintaining roads, ensuring there are enough schools and hospitals to cope. Both my wife & I work full time, her salary which should actually be quite good just about covers our rent & childcare, mine then pays all the bills and ensures we eat each month. We could actually buy but considering we cannot get our daughter into school in any of our local ones which all have a waiting list over 400 children what is the point. We moved here for a role of a lifetime for my wife which she loves dearly but the high rents & no chance of schooling our daughter are pushing us away. The problem with the rents as well are the condition of the properties, the house we currently rent needs a huge amount of work doing to it but because of the shortage landlords will charge exactly what they want because they know it will rent regardless. I see plenty of new office blocks being built but very little houses or flats. The government seem to have created another bubble, I feel that will pop soon but will they actually do anything to prevent it?

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