Talking About Our Second Generation

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Every week we give away a Golden Discs voucher (total value 25 Euros) to use at your leisure in any of the 14 GD stores nationwide.

All we want from you is a tune that we can play at an unspecified time next week.

This week’s theme: Irish blood, English heart.

What UK artist/act born to Irish emigrants floats your mail boat?

To enter, complete this sentence:

The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be______________________________________’

Lines MUST close at 5.15pm MIDNIGHT tonight. Midnight SUNDAY!

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84 thoughts on “Talking About Our Second Generation

  1. Brother Barnabas

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be Elton John, whose parents hail from Elton Road, Dun Laoghaire, on account of his foot-tapping tunes that go down equally well at weddings, funerals, retirement parties or dogging sessions (IMO).

  2. Smith

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be John Lydon.

    Hard to sum up his influence and impact with any soundbite, but this legend firstly under the guise of ‘Johnny Rotten’ with the Sex Pistols was the punk spokesperson for disaffected youth in a time not dissimilar to now in the UK with rising racism and burgeoning neoliberalism. He was both proudly British and Irish and was unafraid to express his views both musically and in person.

    With PIL, he really found his form and helped to re-shape music with this post-punk brilliance. RISE is a song that encapsulates the man. “Anger is an energy”.

          1. anne

            sorry just messing again.. when you said good shout.. like from you ;)

            Love John Lydon myself.
            Gas man.

  3. carnie

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be Richard D. James aka Aphex Twin.

  4. Otis Blue

    That would be The Smiths. Bonus points surely for the fact that Morrissey and Robbie Keane are cousins.

    Manchester so much to answer for.

  5. Bertie Blenkinsop

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be The Smiths.

    TOTP – 1983 I first set eyes on Johnny Marr and it was love at first sight.
    He’s never put a foot wrong since in my eyes, the coolest man alive.
    He’s autobiography is a great read and his solo stuff is not half bad either.

    https://youtu.be/hnpILIIo9ek

    1. Starina

      i made him laugh once at Electric Picnic cos he started playing Getting Away with It and the entire crowd was silent except me, who let out a wildly excited whoop. he started cracking up. my moment of glory.

        1. Birneybau2

          And to think, he was 24!?! when The Smiths broke up.

          He wrote all that incredible music before he was 25.

          1. bertie blenkinsop

            And the thing that really comes across in his book is that The Smiths was very much HIS group.

  6. Mourinho

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be Morrissey. I mean you admitted it yourself by using his lyrics as your theme.

  7. scottser

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be jools holland. i didn’t know either, but hey, you don’t argue with wikipedia.

  8. Me

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be Kevin Rowland of Dexys Midnight Runners. Famed for that discotheque classic Come on Eileen he has ploughed a number of musical furrows. Some like his dress and suspenders with Whitney cover at Reading didn’t go down so well but from his Saturday morning kids tv show explanation of the dexys reference to his more recent comeback with Dexys he has always been true to himself, and [these days] is never knowingly underdressed. (and his people are from Mayo, like me)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c_7l9X7_RA

  9. Jones

    Huey Lewis and the News. Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in ’83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He’s been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

    1. Rob_G

      “Hey Jones – do you like Phil Collins?”

      (don’t worry, I got the reference even if no-one else did)

  10. mc3

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be David Bowie according to my nine-year old son who heard about the connection from my father. His mother was one Peggy Burns seemingly.

  11. Zena

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess, would have to be Siobhan Fahey from Bananarama. She was so much more than a pretty face.

      1. ivan

        lawks a mercy, i think I loved all the ‘ramas…

        And she co-wrote Young at Heart with yer man from The Bluebells. And Stay by Shakespears Sister was the best daft number 1 EVER. Made Meatloaf at his most OTT look like the feckin’ Beta Band

  12. Zena

    2nd entry

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess is Boy George. Beautiful, stylish man and an amazing singer.

    1. bertie blenkinsop

      George was brilliant, Victims was a fantastic tune but his voice is shot now sadly.

      1. Zena

        I didn’t realise his voice wasn’t what it once was – saw him being interviewed a couple of weeks ago by Piers Morgan. He looked as good as ever and was his usual charming self.

        1. bertie blenkinsop

          Also, there was a fly on the wall documentary on BBC 4 a couple of years ago about Culture Club reforming and a comeback tour.
          I always thought he was a great guy but he came across dreadfully in this.

          1. Zena

            I was going to say that maybe he had a sting in his tail after having to do community service in the US that time but that was good few years ago now.

            His poor escort got more than he bargained for to say the least…..

      2. notahipster

        Quite the opposite BB, I’m happy to report. I saw him with Culture Club at Wembley Arena in December and his pure, white soul voice is as beautiful as ever. It couldn’t have been (much) autotuned. He’s off all the gear, dropped about five stone and in fine form.

        1. bertie blenkinsop

          Glad to hear it, last couple of times I saw him sing live in thought he was woeful, and I’d consider myself a fan :)

  13. Daisy Chainsaw

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to be Mary O’Brien who became Dusty Springfield. A sublime voice who brought pathos to and elevated the songs of Bacharach and David to the classics they deserved to be

  14. PMCD

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess would have to Kevin Roland of Dexys.

    Mr Roland lambasted the stereotype of the Thick Paddy with his first single Dance Stance:

    “Never heard about, can’t think about
    Oscar Wilde and Brendan Behan,
    Sean O’Casey, George Bernard Shaw.
    Samuel Beckett, Eugene O’Neill, Edna O’Brien and Lawrence Stern.”

    He almost spits out the lyrics in anger – it still sends a shiver up my back 35+ years later. Oh, and his second single Geno went to No. 1 and happens to be one of the best songs ever – pop fact! And if all that’s not good enough for ya – the man’s got style!

  15. Jamie

    The greatest example of English-born second generation Irish musical prowess is clearly proud Waterford woman Kate Bush (her mother was from the Deise). Have any of these other people you’ve mentioned recorded a song with whipping noises and someone going “OOOOH!OOOOH!” like an owl in the background all the way through?No. No they haven’t. I rest my case.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4csr6pLZLg

    1. mildred st. meadowlark

      No, I believe you might be right there.

      That said, someone has gone and claimed Bowie to be of Irish descent, and knowing him…

  16. ivan

    Right – if we’re allowed Beatles, then it’s Macca. Yes yes yes, I know, Frog Chorus, Mull of Kintyre…get over it, given that he’s recorded as much as he has, it’s inevitable there’s some well known stuff that the critics get sniffy about. Just lash on side 2 of Abbey Road, listen to the guitar solo on Taxman, the belting skiffle on I’ve Just Seen a Face. Hunt out ‘Wanderlust’, languish in Maybe I’m Amazed, lose yourself in the entire Flowers in the Dirt album (largely recorded with other honorary Mick, Declan McManus, above).

    We’re not doing Macca? It’s Kevin Rowland, and it’s for this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXh19wfJT3Q

      1. ivan

        Not sure what you’re getting at there, but Macca played the solo on it. Yes, i know. On George’s composition. And it’s used backwards on Tomorrow Never Knows

        1. bertie blenkinsop

          Probably way off the mark but you write a lot like someone I know, an old mod who watches the Dubs, you probably just have a taste twin!

          1. Otis Blue

            No lambretta. No tonic suit. No Dubs here, I’m afraid.

            And fighting rockers on a bank holiday is frowned upon down in my corner of West Cork. Since that messy Collins business back in the day we’re peaceable types.

            I was worried you had me though…

  17. And Social Justice For All

    It’s got to be Gilbert O’Sullivan though I think he might really be Irish.

    Anyway what about that Shayne Ward fella :)

    Or the Nolan Sisters

    You are all such elitist musical snobs. Especially you Bertie :)

  18. Bingo

    Jaysus, we sent over our best back then, didn’t we?
    The load of poo that we produced here in the 80s…

    And it’s still guff.
    Nothing decent produced on this island in years
    Name the last influential Irish music act?

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