Last year’s Big Grill festival in Herbert Park, Dublin 4
The Big Grill food festival takes place in Herbert Park, Dublin 4 this weekend.
Local residents are licking their lips…
Oh
Richard T writes:
Seems like the good denizens of of Donnybrook/Ballsbridge don’t like their park occupied for 3 days per year!
FIGHT!
I don’t blame them. I also deplore commercialisation of the public realm. It’s creeping and insidious
Your against encouraging families out to enjoy public spaces and help smaller business make some money?
If smaller business don’t make enough money without hijacking public space maybe there’s an issue with their business model
“hijacking”…. hilarious, have you ever been to dun laoighaire peoples park on a sunday? Its glorious, full of families enjoying a day out, lovely food stalls, arts and crafts sellers,. Calling that hijacking is pretty far fetched and small minded view of the world.
And it’s free in.
Calm down
And this one isn’t, calm down you don’t have to go if you don’t want to
I definitely don’t want to go near if it’s attended by shrill drama queens like yourself.
:-)
Aww cant keep things civil and have to resort to cheap petty insults…. good on you
“An issue with their business model”
You’ve never run a business have you?
I’ve run several
…into the ground!
Oh dear god……
The Big Grill like ‘The Taste of Dublin’ is a racket. I went two years ago, and will never go back. You have to pay an entrance fee into what is normally a public park (€15 or €18) and what do you get in return….nothing! You can’t use your own money, you have to buy their vouchers which you can’t exchange back if they’re not used, so it sucks.
Never again.
Ah, the buying of vouchers. That’s led me slant on my view of the week-end. It looks a tad scammish on it.
I went last year and they have the vouchers priced so you cant even get a bite to eat and a pint without leaving a fiver behind you. And this after paying in, its a scam for sure, wont be back.
Shut it down. Appalling, exploitative Red Meat district.
Mind you they complained about the bells in the local church too.
St Bartholomew’s bells ring out once more
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/st-bartholomew-s-bells-ring-out-once-more-1.1710228
I love people having a go at the residents in these situations.
Only 3 days. They should get over it.
Same is said over the Croke Park gigs.
Always said by people who don’t live in the vicinity.
Croke Park is entirely different- it’s not exactly 3 days only, is it? Add to that there’s not likely to be 80,000 descend on this event- over both days.
Some people love a good oul moan
The moaning of the residents near Croker resulted in the ultimate disappointment of the nation when they protested against Garth Brooks adding another night to acccommodate the demand for tickets. People in rural towns slept outside for days (I’m not kidding) at their local Ticketmaster outlet queuing for a chance to buy a ticket.
It must be an inconvenience to live near Croke Park, but, it’s been there a long time, and it’s surely accepted by now, that life occasionally throws inconveniences in one’s path.
A day or two of barbecuing must really stress out the D4 types, my heart does go out to the poor folk.
“the ultimate disappointment of the nation”
Losing the run of yourself now, Shayna.
She’s not though barnabas. You should hear the boggers about this.
Perhaps I did go a tad overboard. It was merely intended as a vehicle to highlight how precious people think they are more special than others. I didn’t know who Garth Brooks was, until the whole furore. Ta, Brother for notcing
Luke warm boggers is very derogatory to a few million Irish people .. ya bleedin howiya
Sorry Illuminati
Sure I’m a bogger myself
Its in no way similar to croke park, it brings nothing like the numbers a single one night concert does and its spaced over 4 days, it shuts down every night at 10 o clock so no issue with music and residents trying to sleep. they are held in an enclosed space in 1 section of the park, the majority of the park is still completely accessible so nothing to complain about not being able to enjoy the park either.
You appear to have skin in the game
Ridiculous nimby’s, its 1 weekend a year FFS, also they are their rules they can ignore them if they want……
No they can’t ignore their own rules.
can & did
Yes they actually can, they set them and can ignore them if they want
They don’t actually need to ignore them, the rules all have clauses along the lines of “save with the prior written permission of the Council and subject to the terms and conditions of such permission”. They can give permission to people to act against the normal rules, within the rules.
http://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content//RecreationandCulture/DublinCityParks/Documents/ParksBye-Laws2D.pdf
So this pack of raging frothing fun-killing local NIMBY monsters could be literally one person who fancies themselves a legal wizard but didn’t read the sub-clauses? Lord spare us.
Has anyone actually checked with the locals to see if their objections have merit? Or is is the usual schtick of people who moan about how awful everything is automatically attacking people who actually try to do something about whatever it is that’s bothering them?
Well, the person/people complaining are from a nice area so therefore their issues are to be met with nothing but scorn. I’d imagine that if the area was more working class, the people here telling that person/people to just get over it would be completely agreeing with them.
I wish I shared your sunny optimism about human nature. I’m pretty sure some angle would have been found from which to attack to objectors in a working class area.
Nah, in that scenario we prefer to use the national media to coordinate false claims by the Gardai about them and then put them on trial.
Oh for Heaven’s sake. A few days a year shouldn’t be overly bothersome to most types. DCC earn a few bob to pay for bulbs for the street-lamps and what-not. In The North, roads are closed periodically over July/August to allow Orange types to parade and march, and are there any complaints? (Sorry bad example).
:D
The weekly food market in the People’s Park in Dun Laoghaire is the way to do this: no booze, no loud music, and free entry. This means the public can actually still enjoy the park, alongside the food stands creating a bit of atmosphere and generating money for themselves. Everyone wins.
Charging a massive entry fee (19eur) to enter a public park, as the Big Grill does, is taking the piss. Even more so when you’re also expected to pay full whack for booze and food in there, using Itchy & Scratchy Coupons that you’re forced to buy.
I agree the peoples park is fantastic, i regularly go, i also enjoy the big grill, do you know why? Cus they are DIFFERENT.
Also they arent charging 19 euro to enter a public park, they are charging 19 euro to enter a specific entirely closed off section of the park, the majority of the park is still completely open to public use.
They’re charging €19 to enter what is, at all other times, a public park.
When councils grant exclusive access of public parks (or parts of public parks) to private enterprises for commercial purposes like this, they should be mandated to publish how much of a fee they are charging, and what it’s being allocated to in their budget. I’m thinking also of Marlay Park and the summer concerts, which put much of the park (and parking at the park) out of bounds for a couple of weekends when the demand for the park is often at its peak.
No they are not, the vast majority of the park is still open to public access, the grill itself is a closed off section using temporary fencing within the park that you need a ticket to enter.
Booze isn’t evil adults should be able to enjoy a drink with their food at events like this. It is hilarious though that they’re charging in to an event which is a sold of stalls that you buy food at. Only in Dublin.
A weekend a year, where nobody is forced to buy anything – it’s the punter’s choice to do so, might well be a less intrusive model for boosting park income than a weekly food market (where people have to pay full whack for non-alcoholic drink and food – with regular money). The €19 entry charge in Herbert Park isn’t just to have access to buying grub – there’s a pretty decent range of entertaining options without eating or drinking anything.
As a resident in the Croke Park area, I’m well used to the inconvenience of public events, but nimbyism is no more welcome in leafy D4 than another part of a city – where the density of people requires the odd bit of compromise.
Nice one, Hex. I’ll be in Jones’s Road at the end of the month. I can’t promise that there won’t be noise when Tyrone beat the Dubs. :)
You’ll be able to hear a pin drop so
Which food retailer are you, Vin? No disinterested party is this passionate about spending a whole twenty to get into a venue to buy a burger for more money.
Good question
According to Marcel on this a few weeks ago it’s a pile of nonsense
Ohh im not associated in any way i just detest nimbyism, i had tickets this year but now cant go unfortunately
Don’t worry. Im sure they’ve a good refund policy.
Ha ha!
The creator of the notice seems to have missed the numerous “save with the prior written permission of the Council and subject to the terms and conditions of such permission” clauses in the bye laws from which they quote.
http://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content//RecreationandCulture/DublinCityParks/Documents/ParksBye-Laws2D.pdf
checkmate, home run, touchdown, knockout, jenga, buckaroo, i rest my case, don’t speak
I know just what you’re saying
So please stop explaining
Don’t tell me ’cause it hurts
The residents in question appear to be missing Lord Pembroke.
Joyless old fupps.
It’s a poopy park anyway with very little design quality
The first photo is from 2 years ago. My family and I are pictured. We weren’t there last year. Justsayinlike.
So whaddya think of it?
It’s free in for grannies
You should go so. You might meet someone on day release from Arbour Hill.
Catherine Nevin might let you buy her one of those nice Jameson cocktails.
lol I haven’t heard of those. Slingshots ?
My kids were 3 and 1 yrs old at the time. We might go back when they’re old enough to buy me a beer.
Actually on for 4 days, not 3, plus presumably closed off for setup and teardown. Rest of the park won’t really be enjoyable what with loud, repetitive music/cooking demos/MCs over the PA and smoke from all the charcoal, so I do empathise with locals -especially those living in the many houses/flats overlooking the park.
Free public events are a great way to enjoy different parks in the city, plus compatible with residential areas because they’re on in the daytime and not as noisy. Letting private companies take over public spaces like this is totally different and I don’t like it. Some cultural events might merit the use of community resources but I hardly think jumping on the overpriced BBQ bandwagon is one of them.
Hear! Hear!
Wtf is it anyway only a load of oul wans cooking a few steaks and wetting their pants over it? Get a life FFS
Fess up, it’s all about your middle-aged spread innit.
I’m built like a brick poohouse with abs of steel zoella. PM me.
No mention from the local residents of the eyesore of the Gerry Ryan memorial bench in same park. Did they approve that? Who did.
Oh, somebody tried to BBQ it…
http://www.herald.ie/news/callous-vandals-destroy-gerry-tribute-bench-27997737.html
Ah FFS, it’s just another park bench. You’d see an eyesore in the Sistine Chapel. RIP Gerry, he gave plenty of people a laugh which is more than you can say for yourself.