Emergency Labour


This afternoon.

Athy County Kildare.

Dr. Rhona Mahony, Master of the National Maternity Hospital in Holles Street Dublin, giving the keynote address at the final day of the Labour Party Think-In.

Eamonn writes:

During her speech Dr. Mahony said spending money on healh eductaion would in the long term be more effective than spending money on the health system. Speaking to media afterwards she said she favoured repealing the 8th (Eight) Amendment as it was wrong to be sending women to England for terminations because of the lack of service in Ireland.

Eamonn Farrell/RollingNews.ie

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31 thoughts on “Emergency Labour

  1. MoyestWithExcitement

    “Dr. Mahony said spending money on healh eductaion would in the long term be more effective than spending money on the health system.”

    She’s not proposing and either-or situation is she? Can we not do both? Can neoliberals cop the fupp on and realise that The Producers they worship need a healthy workforce and healthy consumers to get rich?

    1. Cian

      You can’t do both with the same money.
      So for a given amount of money education (preventive) is better than health system (cure).

      1. MoyestWithExcitement

        Why does it have to be with the same money? Why can’t we spend less on, say, secondary schools in wel-to-do areas where they all have plenty of money? Why can’t we, say, introduce a tax on golf stuff? We taxed betting, sure. Point being, we can raise tax revenue and/or redistribute it.

        1. ahjayzis

          That’s all well and good Moyest, but we’ll have no money left to basically hand over to developers to ask them nicely to maybe build some overpriced houses in a market that’s crying out for it?

          1. MoyestWithExcitement

            After reading your posts I do, yeah. Why not, anyway? We taxed a working class passtime so why not a posh one?

  2. newsjustin

    “…wrong to be sending women to England for terminations because of the lack of service in Ireland.”

    No one is sending women to England for terminations.

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      Cora Sherlock says women are being coerced into aborting abroad by Irish doctors, but that’s illegal under the 8th. But because of the 13 & 14 amendments, women can google bpas and Ryanair, and have their Irish abortion abroad. Prolife hypocrites do nothing about it so Ireland’s abortion rate averages 12 a day.

      1. realPolithicks

        ” Ireland’s abortion rate averages 12 a day.”

        But the important thing is that there are no abortions “IN” holy catholic Ireland.

  3. nellyb

    lack of service is not the same as denial of service, miles apart, like.
    does she diagnose patients in the same fuzzy way? she may be right talking about spending more money on education.

  4. phil

    I think she might be suggesting that health education might help people understand that a clump of cells is not a baby.

    1. dav

      There is a strong possibility that if there are problems with the pregnancy then the mother could be transferred to the national maternity hospital from any of the regional hospitals. The fear is now they will be transferred into a hospital that is ruled by the church and the treatments given are governed by church law and doctrine.

  5. Termagant

    On the one hand, abortions for some, miniature Irish flags for others.

    On the other, repealing the 8th means no longer outsourcing the country’s abortions to the UK, reintegrating the abortion crowd to an already cartoonishly overcrowded healthcare system

    Pros and cons is all I’m saying. Sophie’s Choice meets Rosemary’s Baby.

    1. mildred st. meadowlark

      That’s a very good point about our already overstretched healthcare system. How well would it cope with additional patients? Especially ones who have a deadline, so to speak.

      However. I don’t necessarily believe that it is a good enough reason to continue ‘outsourcing’ our little problem to the UK.

      1. Harry Molloy

        I think they’d find it more difficult to find doctors to carry out the procedure to be honest. I base that on a couple of young doctors I know who say you’d find it hard to find a doctor that would be comfortable with ending life. Even though most might be pro choice, they wouldn’t want to be the ones carrying out the procedure, unless it was to save the life of the mothers.

        I suppose in a country this size you only need one or two though.

        1. mildred st. meadowlark

          Really? Just think about what you’re suggesting there Harry.

          Do you honestly think that someone who has spent 7+ years studying the human body would be ‘uncomfortable’ with handing a woman some tablets designed to bring on a miscarriage?

          Because that’s what most abortions consist of. And frankly, I doubt that would put off too many doctors who have seen first hand the affects of our legislation.

          1. Harry Molloy

            most abortions yeah, but there are other types too. and I’m just basing that on what young doctors have told me.

          2. newsjustin

            Some doctors may be comfortable with medical abortions. Vanishingly few, in my humble opinion, would be comfortable with the, less common but not uncommon, tearing off of limbs, crushing of skulls type abortion.

          3. Sham Bob

            @newsjustin Sounds like an argument for legalising it up to a certain number of weeks like in most countries so that type would become even less common.

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