Ciara Kelly Tweets…

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  1. talklessworkmoreok

    Jesus. Well past time to warn other women properly about this man. Whereas all this has succeeded in doing is prompting a list of ‘well known’ Irish male personalities to parade through my head now asking of each one ‘is it him’

    1. Ding

      The list can’t be that long. Irish male, on twitter, was prominent 40 years ago and still is today. How many potential perpetrators can there be?

  2. Deirdre Fitzpatrick

    Am sure there are several men from that era who could fit the bill. I would support any woman/man who was raped or had unwanted physical attention from man or woman. Be cautious – this could turn into witch hunt.

      1. RepeatTheLeaving

        Why? This person is a doctor. They know how the system works and how to deal with it. On Twitter? Sure.

  3. Frilly Keane

    Please
    If you are one of these girls
    Please Please come forward

    Do not be afraid
    Don’t ever be afraid
    You are stronger than you think

    Otherwise you would not have been able to live with this monstrosity of a secret

    Find the person you want to tell everything to
    And they’re are plenty others ready to hold your hand and stand in front of you

    I am one of them

    Don’t wait
    And don’t keep minding your secret on your own any longer

    Bring it out
    And kill it off

      1. Frilly Keane

        Ha! Cheeze. If yer going to have a go. At least try n’make me laugh.

        Here Bodger, the next time Preposterous is on the telly waving his finger at the “Naughty Trolls”
        As if tis meself and Batty in the Chat Pit causing the trouble

        Remember this flyby’

    1. Mysterybeat

      Yeah, jeez ladies, stop exposing these rapists, otherwise who would us men have as role-models.

      Fool.

    1. Sheila

      What I take from this is they want to build a proper case, do it right.
      Courage in numbers.
      Once they have this, it will go beyond Twitter.

      1. Yep

        + 1

        Not sure why people can’t understand that. Even if people are not initially comfortable identifying themselves, if people come forward with their story and a timeline is put in place then it will build courage for many.

  4. fluffybiscuits

    This is very appropriiate and I think its a chance for the perpetrator to come clean .

    She could go to gardai but she is letting him think if he should give himself up

    1. sǝɯǝɯ@pɐq

      Oh…

      I knew we were in threachorous waters.
      Who knew the pool would be this big though?

      It’s great that these stories are being told.
      It’s distressing that there’s enough of them to cause confusion.

    2. rotide

      Here’s where this sort of thing starts to get dangerous.

      The person mentioned in the tublr post appears to be a common or garden sexist and that’s not really a shooting offence. Going by this thread it would be easy to assume he’s a rapist.

      Bodger you need to tread very very carefully here.

      1. Yep

        Bodger has stated it is a different man to the one in the blog though. People are speculating about the alleged rapist in the tweets. Waters might get muddied but it’s clearly stated.

        I’d heard creepy “drunk Uncle” stories about himself in the blog but when you hear about a specific incident…Fair play to Grace. Handled it very well.

  5. Steve

    This is ridiculous. Name him. That’s what got Weinstein. Otherwise it’s just heresay and noise with the potential to implicate several inoocent parties.

  6. RepeatTheLeaving

    Another perspective. Why now?

    And the platform has a flawed pedigree – Newstalk.

    More desperation for the MeToo clicks – just like Kathy Sheridan and Terry Prone.

    Why not go to the police, Kelly?

    1. Pete Tong

      That would involve actually providing proof that what this guy did to her was illegal – which it isn’t. It’s easier to sling mud and get attention than it is to actually follow through on these things

  7. I.P.

    I think bad men are bad. And the good women are good. The good men are far away, the bad men are over there. Bad women are not here. Bad women are far away.

    Am I a bad woman?

    1. Janet, I ate my avatar

      sure only the catholic Church and state and manky justice system who let’s sexual abusive men get 2 years sentences could answer what a bad woman you are

    2. sǝɯǝɯ@pɐq

      @ I.P.., or can I call you OP?;
      If you’re a bad woman, I am a bad woman.
      (and I’m NOT a woman.)

      Solidarity, Sister.
      – ALWAYS and every way.

    1. sǝɯǝɯ@pɐq

      @ Fungus Yhe Postyman:

      Eh, why don’t you re-publish it to an audience who might have missed it?
      …concurrently with your well-elected and confusing admonishment of the sentiments held within?

      Is it Mushroom Season again already?

  8. sǝɯǝɯ@pɐq

    Here’s a tip:
    – Play Starfox, the original and first version. N64 or emulation,, it doesn’t reallty matter.
    – Turn the volume off completely and play ‘Shine On You Crazy Diamond’ pt 4′ by Pink Floyd though the biggest and loudest speakers you can find, steal or borrow..
    If you lose a life, start again.

    It syncs up so well.
    Really.

  9. Lilly

    Just name him for christsakes. Have courage and right the wrong.

    I remember hearing rumours along these lines about a man who’s a radio presenter these days (about 70 years old but doesn’t look it). He seems like a decent man and I thought nah, can’t be true – but nothing would surprise me at this stage.

  10. sǝɯǝɯ@pɐq

    Men are kinda bastards, aren’t they?
    I’m being serious.

    It’s the ones from the more ‘gentile’ side of society who are being exposed recently.
    . What lies beneath?

    What lies?
    How many more?

  11. sǝɯǝɯ@pɐq

    Sorry…

    My point I’m trying to make is that you jammy-dodgers, see you?
    …youhave a platform that was never afforded to older people like me.
    I used to write letters to the RTÉ Guide. They never printed them.

    I’ve disliked the Late Late since before you were old enough to be allowed to stay up late enough to watch it..

    Mushrooms.

  12. Catherinecostelloe

    I’ve just read Grace’s post on Michael Coglan. He sounded a jolly decent sort, taking her out for expensive meals, introducing her to the club, encouraging her, and she had late drinking sessions in his company many a night. You know if he was a dirty old man there would have been a paw on the knee, a pat on the bottom, sexual suggestion. So Grace has up to that point described a gentleman. A bit brash maybe.
    Then when he is drunk he causes offence., though he means it as a joke. When drink is in sense is out , isn’t it? Why not contact him when he is sober the following day and ask him did he remember what he said? That it really hurt your feelings? Grace got her own back with knobs on by publicly with a witness call him out on his drunken comment. But in said circumstances, I feel sorry for him. Bad news travels fast, watching P’s and Q’s can be difficult with drink involved. We should always keep a sense of humour too. Boys will be boys, their brains are all over the shop with too much booze in.its life.Simple as that.

    1. sǝɯǝɯ@pɐq

      I should be a theatre director.
      I should have people making excuses for me.

      Here I am. apologising for my gender even though it’s got nothing to do with me, and there’s you…

      It doesn’t click.

      I’ve been wrongly accused of something similar in the past, by a disgruntled ex-girlriend.
      The Garda who brought my computer back to me after 10 days tried to calm me down by saying I was in a better position trhan him…I was ‘exhonerated’.

      I’m still furious. 12yrs later.

      Use facts.
      Stick to the truth.
      Otherwise you diminish your own case

      1. KG

        That’s fascinating.

        When the guard told you that you were “exhonerated”, how could you tell he was misspelling the word?

    2. Cynical

      Very well put, in both cases it sounds like an attempt at a joke was being made. Nothing has been achieved other than a witch-hunt based on heresay. If we continue down this path it won’t be long till we are filling the ranks for the Thought Police.

    3. martco

      I think you nailed it there Catherine in fairness, she could have handled this differently. Now yer man is assassinated. as we’re all on the jury here…

      sonI also read the post fully and with the info available I’d concur.

      I’ve met Colgan’s lewd sort before, different industry, very frustrating thing to deal with as a bloke. either call them out on it straightaway (as opposed to many parties and years later) or not at all! the first time I just landed into what was in every technical sense my dream job & something I’d worked my bllx off to get to BUT the fly in the ointment was this established peer fella working alongside….all this pornograp-ied (if that’s even a word) banter about the girls working in the building and some customer sites but it had an edge to it that made me very ill inside. I thought about a visit to HR. but I gave it more time to assess the reactions around me, in the end I sadly quit the job….only years later now I know I should have called him out on it. but I was in my 20’s inexperienced. I didn’t make the same mistake the second time, late 30’s, similar shyte but this time I took the fella to one side the day after an office party…dead straight told him to cop on or I’d do something about it…turns out he didn’t even realise his behaviour was out of line?!? we chatted again down the line and the bloke actually thanked me, fair balls. (summary) he’d had made some changes to his personal situation by having some counselling and was a 1000% better person for it.

      I guarantee anyone who has worked in offices around the place has had a scrape or two like this.

      Do the right thing, think about it and call it. Don’t be selfish. Whether you’re man or woman. Right is right wrong is wrong. Screw the politics.

        1. martco

          thanks
          that second time around I asked yer man married with 2 children as he is to imagine how he’d feel about it if his own daughter was in the office doing work experience and his office bantz mates were banging on about her. thud. it was that simple. was worth the discomfort of doing it. I’d encourage any blokes faced with this kind of scenario to speak up, the result will only ever be +ve

  13. sǝɯǝɯ@pɐq

    {‘m too old to fight.)
    I know one thing…

    It was the Internet that brought all of this to our attention.

    Long live the Internet.

  14. Catherinecostelloe

    Perhaps Ciara should put a tweet out there for victims to meet at a meeting room booked at a hotel, and put up time and place? But one has to be careful , eg with Weinstein , a model gave an interview shown on RTE and she has Weinstein on tape ( played on RTE) telling her ‘come in to the room’, while she is saying “Why did you touch my breast yesterday?”. But I didn’t hear on the report that the police had put a wire on her to catch him .No further action because of her history attending Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi’s sex parties. Let’s accept some women are not as they seem and not all men are sex predators.

  15. Eamonn Clancy

    Is Colgan’s career to be ruined because of something he said when he was drunk? Who among us has not said vile things when drunk, hit someone when drunk, drove our cars when we were drunk? Is discretion finished, are the days of banter over a few pints between men and women gone? Is every off colour remark made by a man going to be posted on Facebook or twitter the following morning?

      1. Milo

        I am giving you the benefit of the doubt on this Nigel and presume your sarcasm. The alternative would be too horrific.

      2. Nigel

        I don’t think people should be excused saying vile things, punching people or driving dangerously just because they’re drunk. Being drunk isn’t a mitigating factor. This discretion is part of how people were and are silenced. ‘Every off-colour remark’ is hugely general and covers a broad spectrum, so that’s typical scare-mongering.

        1. rotide

          Obviously, I don’t know all the details as yer woman didn’t publish anything but what she claims he said , I wouldn’t say it was ‘vile’. He was clearly making what he thought was a joke. I wouldn’t make it but it’s hardly the worst thing to come out of any of our mouths.

          1. MoyestWithExcitement

            “He was clearly making what he thought was a joke”

            “Clearly” You have REALLY troubling attitudes towards women.

    1. Niamh

      There’s more to it than a single drunk comments but Dyas, as she details in a second blog post, felt obliged to cut 4,000 words of her blog post on legal advice. The point of the blog post is that it is a tip-of-the-iceberg prompt for everyone who has had similar experiences with MC and others to begin sharing information, getting legal advice, and fighting this on a systematic scale. Because it is systematic – these men were in positions of power and could end careers before they began (of women who questioned them).

      Colgan is free at any time to apologise to Dyas. She gave him an opportunity to. He just kept verbally attacking her, imagining there would be no consequence. He had his chance. He deserves what he gets, and so do the rest of them.

      I work in academia and know more than one story of females in early-career positions not having contracts renewed after they raised issues around certain men in authority. Some of these men’s indiscretions with students/scholars are legendary. It’s systematic. If you don’t know that I would suggest it is because you have not been listening to women very well.

      1. rotide

        He deserves what he gets? You’re talking like he’s a serial rapist or something. All we’re seeing is that he drunkenly made an inadvisable comment which had no effect on this womans career? He may have done worse, but there’s no evidence for thatyet you’re talking about hanging him.

        1. Nigel

          Well, yes, I expect what he’ll get is a reputation as a person who does this sort of thing. Nobody said anything about hanging, except people suddenly concerned about mob justice and witch-hunts. There’ll be no mob justice and no witch hunt. When the furor dies down, people will now just know this thing about him that they didn’t know before, which seems fair enough.

          1. Cynical

            No, the reputation being portrayed to the public is #IrishWeinstein which is grossly unfair to those victims.

    2. LW

      @Eamonn, everyone should be able to say whatever vile things they want, hit people, and drive cars when drunk?! Is it fine because they’re drunk, or fine all the time?

    3. Sham Bob

      Who among us has not said vile things when drunk, hit someone when drunk, drove our cars when we were drunk, hit someone with our cars when drunk?

  16. Milo

    It’s quite Crucible esque out there this morning. Lots of courage, hugs, solidarity, healing. speaking truth to power, darkness, bandwagoning, tears and hysteria. I hope everyone finds their own peace in time.

    Meanwhile I hope boys and girls continue to romance, beguile, charm, flirt, chase, embrace and mate with as much joy, fervour, urgent carnality and soft fondness as ever. Don’t let a few tossers spoil the fun for everyone else.

  17. Eamonn Clancy

    It’s a two way street, almost every week we now read about a female teacher jailed for raping a teenage student, the silence on that by women is deafening. Would you have us believe women don’t make crude comments to men when drunk, grope them? Women in theatre abuse power too, but no one has the courage to out the leading female theatre director who’s renowned for bullying men and women in the rehearsal room, or blow the whistle on a prominent gay director who gropes straight men and is inappropriate with them when he is drunk. Abuse in Irish theatre is not just a straight, white male issue. And everybody knows it…

        1. ahjayzis

          She’s not lying – she does find you repulsive. Her ulterior motive is not having to shower for 5 hours straight.

    1. ahjayzis

      I’d like to thank him for coming out as gay as a response to an allegation of paedophilia. (?!?!?!)

      Thanks Kev, everyone loves that conflation.

    2. martco

      on a semi-related subject I was quite liking that Anthony Rapp fellas character in the new Star Trek series on Netflix but the latest episode really disappointing again…series jumping from dark and interesting in one episode to light entertainment in the next the progression is yoyoing all over the gaff…really hope it gets back on track….the kirk-esque claptrap of Harry Mudd in the latest episode…maybe should just be grateful there’s no tribbles yet….

    1. Nigel

      ‘Witnesses.’ As in, you see something happen and are able to draw your own bloody conclusions about the behaviour even though it wasn’t directed at you.

        1. Nigel

          He’s already fairly fond of me because of the way I helped lead the Long March and save the remnants of the Red Army from the forces of Chiang Kei-shek, but when he finds out I think Adam Sandler’s a bit skeevy for repeatedly putting his hand on the knee of a woman he doesn’t know on national television, he’ll make me Deputy Chairman for sure!

    1. LW

      What’s your point here Clampers? You seem determined to turn as many issues as possible into a battle of men Vs women.

      1. Clampers Outside!

        No.

        Just pointing out the justice system can flip depending on the perps gender.
        Social attitudes are clearly similarly aligned in that mode of thinking.

        It’s an interesting. Plse dont see this as one pitching a side against another, thanks. Not intended.

        1. Yep

          “Plse dont see this as one pitching a side against another…”

          I don’t think I’m the only one who reads the majority of your posts to be just that. Just in case you were wondering.

        2. LW

          Yeah, it’s hard not to see it as you trying to frame it as men against women, because in your comment you say: don’t panic, it’s not a man, it’s a woman

          1. LW

            It’s pretty easy to see what you’re doing alright, posting that into this thread. Keep the crusade going Clampers!

          1. Warden of the Snort

            Wow she ‘s a saucy minx and make no mistake

            You did read the part where it was said she was suffering from mental health issues did you? You don’t think that possibly had a bearing on sentencing?

    1. Nigel

      They’re a law firm. Their part in due process is the provision of legal representation. They can choose to believe their clients if they wish.

  18. MoyestWithExcitement

    Broadsheet should archive these threads so we can see who all the creepy weirdos are. There’s a guy on this thread saying Colgan just told a bad joke, ffs! Imagine him being around women.

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