23 thoughts on “De Friday Papers

    1. Cian

      They aren’t wrong – “For general writing, most guides agree that you should use words for the numbers one through nine, but for larger numbers the rules vary wildly from style guide to style guide.”
      However, I’d agree that it looks weird.

      1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

        Yup. I don’t think it looks weird, though. I’d correct it to say that if it didn’t, with my twitchy editing finger.

  1. Johnny Keenan

    That picture of the beautiful girl who at 11 years old took her own life, is going to haunt the country.
    RIP Milly Tuomey

    1. Birdie

      So tragic… Her parents tried so hard but were let down by the services. I was shocked to read in the Irish Times that Ireland is ranked 5th in Europe for suicide amongst 10-14 year old children. The medical community says its growing… That’s so very upsetting.

    2. B.BROWN


    1. Formerly known as @ireland.com

      Thanks to Teresa May’s stupid election, the DUP have some power. What a mess. Surely, decent people from Britain would not be happy to be helping these bigots.

      1. Charger Salmons

        Welcome to democracy.
        The DUP are a well-organised political machine and far more adept at the game than the clowns south of the border.
        Down Mexico way.

        1. scottser

          DUP have one more seat than SF, and lost 10 seats at the last election. they have no mandate from the majority of northern irish citizens, and their only brief is to keep stormont from reassembly until may hammers out her brexit ‘deal’.

          anyway, shouldn’t you be off reading the daily mail or something?

          1. Charger Salmons

            Sinn Fein are preventing a government being formed in Norther Ireland and they’re dictating how the Irish government is behaving because of the fear of them making electoral gains.
            The Shinners are well-matched with the DUP in terms of political machines.
            Meanwhile FF,FG and the rest of the rag-tag bunch of third-rate politicians cling to each other like drunks at throwing out time propping up a government that hasn’t produced a single meaningful policy announcement since the many weeks it took it to be formed.
            ” Let’s get the water rebates out before Chrimbo so everyone can get pissed like always and thank us ” seems to be the only direction the government is taking at the moment.

          2. Martco


            apart from ideology reasons etc is there anything technically stopping SF from turning up at Westminster one day just as the crucial Brexit bits are getting done to torpedo the whole party?

          3. Martco

            I just can’t get my head around what SF are up to here…
            like my understanding is themselves and DUP despite the outward appearance of tolerating each other’s existence literally hate each other’s guts, when the cameras aren’t around they mostly wouldn’t even share the same room space unless it’s for a fight.
            The only thing I can come up with is that they’re waiting patiently in the long grass. Anyone?

          4. Charger Salmons

            @ Martco
            Before SF can take their seats and vote they have to swear an oath of allegiance to the Crown,something they will never ever do.
            But more importantly you’re assuming a final Brexit vote will be on a knife-edge.It wont.
            Labour has voted with the government in very large numbers to kill important amendments to the Brexit bill such as staying in the customs union.
            And anyway even if the Brexit Bill was defeated Britain would still leave the EU and there would be a Hard Brexit.
            Once Article 50 was triggered the final vote was always going to be a take it or leave it scenario.
            And Article 50 was triggered by a massive Commons majority for the government.
            At this stage there is no going back.
            May’s government really isn’t quite as stupid as many of the barstool experts on here would have you believe.

          5. ReproBertie

            A couple of clarifications.

            1: The DUP’s blank refusal to act on something that was agreed but put on the long finger is preventing the formation of a government in Northern Ireland. Sinn Féin are not alone in pushing for the Irish language act but they are the only ones being blamed for the DUP’s intransigence.

            2: Right up to Brexit day the British government can cancel the Brexit process at any time. The notion that there is no going back is pure fantasy.

          6. Martco


            that fantasy scenario is the only one I can come up with….picture it…they all think they have their business concluded, DUP all smug, half of England happy half in dread then SF turn up and wipe the smiles off everyone’s faces and make all of what’s been concluded up to that point irrelevant, it’d be like setting off a nuke…perfect destructive end to the empire, no?

          7. Charger Salmons

            Actually it’s a moot point as there is no mention of revocation in the text of Article 50.It was a badly drawn-up piece of legal drafting put together by diplomats rather than lawyers.
            You may remember prominent Remain fruitloop lawyer Jolyon Maugham filed a lawsuit in Ireland hoping to find the answer but he withdrew the suit after opposition from the Irish government and the unlikelihood that it would make it to the European Court of Justice—the only legal body that can answer the question definitively.
            Of course,if there was a political willingness to undo Article 50 it could be done but this is the fantasy of which you speak and which occupied the thoughts of Martco when he posed the original question.
            Realistically however it’s hard to see Labour opposing whatever deal is finally reached because the alternative is a Hard Brexit.

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