Nora Casey discusses her fundraising role ahead of Pope Francis’s visit on August while Brian Kennedy clarifies what the Pope’s visit should mean for Ireland.
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The Ghost of Starina
At least he’s not coming until well after the referendum
Col
“The whole world will be watching Ireland”.
Will they? Does anyone know where he has visited recently and did they see anything of it? I vaguely remember him being in Myanmar, but I didn’t see much of the country on television.
Col
I just looked it up. He was in Chile and Peru in January. I had no idea. I doubt very much that a billion people watched it, or were even aware of it.
Some eejit young wan was rabbiting on about how the youth have no problem with the Catholic Church and that they’ll all be going out for lunch before they go to welcome the Pope in the Phoenix Park. I switched off at that point.
Topsy
Nobody gives a flying fig that you turned off, or indeed that you turned on in the first place.
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
Good to know. Thanks, Tops.
Brother Barnabas
actually, i do
Janet, I ate my Avatar
#metoo
realPolithicks
Je suis Andy.
Topsy
The simple things keep you interested.
Janet, I ate my Avatar
it would sicken your hoop
Daisy Chainsaw
I had to go to an anniversary mass recently and the church had special boxes at all the entrances for donations. The priest said that they were leaving them there for an extra week so it sounds like people aren’t stumping up to fund this jolly.
Donger
Between the pope visit and the abortion referendum there is going to be a lot of shouting at the tv/radio in the coming months
Janet, I ate my Avatar
people nattering in the morning either on or off the the radio is a sin against the universe anyway
Donger
Especially if their name is Paul Williams
newsjustin
If the church wasn’t raising this money itself people would be complaining it wasn’t paying its way. If it does raise it people like Brian Kennedy moan about pensioners (because he knows only pensioners go to mass) paying for it. And in any case, Brian wants the Pope to hand over the money raised to Fr Peter McVerry.
Janet, I ate my Avatar
may be if it paid with its I’ll gotten gains instead of sticking out the begging cap like a “pauper” curiously dressed in gold there would be less complaining
Janet, I ate my Avatar
ill gotten..pardon
realPolithicks
As usual you are missing the point entirely. As just one example of the hypocrisy of this organization the catholic church in Ireland has paid a fraction of reparations they agreed in the child sex abuse settlements, so they can raise 20 million for a visit by the pope by can’t find the money for the victims of their abuse. It’s disgusting!
Janet, I ate my Avatar
+ 20 million
Bernie
+ 1 realPolithicks, well said
david
And who could make them?
Our government. But the government or state was also complicit in these crimes against humanity.
But who were the ones who paid the compensation ?
You me your kids their kids
Who was brought to book? No one
realPolithicks
No response from newsy I see. As is often the case with people like him, he is only interested in “children” up to the point of birth, after that they are on their own.
newsjustin
Yes. I hate all children once they’re born. All us pro-life people are like that. Cop on realP.
Janet, I ate my Avatar
So where would you stand on the issue of retribution balancing out the cost of this visit ?
Do you think it’s ok for parishioners and likely families of victims to foot the bill ?
Anything to be said for pay I g thier own way…its not like they don’t have it afterall.
realPolithicks
I didn’t say anything about hating children once they are born, that’s your word. Also you still have no response to my original point.
newsjustin
Janet, I don’t actually understand your first question.
Parishioners are the church. I have no issue whatsoever with them, or any one else VOLUNTEERING to pay the bill for anything they like.
Who are you referring to in your last question? Who are they? The church is paying its own way, some people in the church are raising €20m.
realP – I’m not going to even get into the whole “only interested in kids until they’re born” nonsense again. It’s trite nonsense.
On the issue of the church raising money for a papal visit vs paying people who were victims of institutional abuse, the two can and should go together. But remember, the church is not a monolith. It is the opposite, in fact. For example, that the congregation of the Christian Brothers haven’t yet paid all the compensation they were supposed to has nothing to do with parishioners in the parish of Sneem in the Diocese of Kerry (for example) and what they chose to spend (or not to spend) their money on.
Janet, I ate my Avatar
I see we differ in what we refer to as parishioners versus the church
For me they are separate, when I refer to the church or they, I mean the establishment, from the Pope at its head to every other figure of power and discussion maker to it’s lowest order.
I would like this establishment to foot the bill not the followers/ adepts of this establishment
Janet, I ate my Avatar
decission maker …pardon
because to my knowledge your average parishioner has little to say in the functioning of the Catholic “church”
newsjustin
Modern Popes tend to die owning a few suits of clothes and a small library. I’m not sure how or why they should pay for a festival in Ireland rather than the local church members who attend, or chose to contribute.
Janet, I ate my Avatar
are you really trying to tell me the Catholic church is broke ?
That the Pope personally should be poor as the representative of Christ on earth I agree, however the accumulated wealth of the organisation he as it’s figurehead represents is hardly debatable.
An interesting debate is how they gained that wealth and the moral responsibility of how they now spend it.
realPolithicks
Don’t waste your time Janet, he’s a one trick pony. His callous and condesending attitude towards women and his refusal to address the many issues related to the catholic church in general and in Ireland in particular suggests to me that he is a conservative religious person that you can still find in Ireland and the US.
Janet, I ate my Avatar
he does have a way of never actually answering the point alright
david
In reality Nora Casey is getting paid for this.
The big question is how much?
newsjustin
She said on tv last night she wasn’t.
Brother Barnabas
the church deals exclusively in a currency called love
amirite?
Janet, I ate my Avatar
and the products thereof…
some old queen
Just an observation but is there some law that women who wear cheap tacky tiger prints also employ an over zealous botox administrator?
I’m asking for a friend who lives in the north Louth / South Armagh region.
Obviously.
Bernie
SOQ, why so catty lately?
Lilly
Let them pay for it from the Magdalen Laundry slave trade profits.
At least he’s not coming until well after the referendum
“The whole world will be watching Ireland”.
Will they? Does anyone know where he has visited recently and did they see anything of it? I vaguely remember him being in Myanmar, but I didn’t see much of the country on television.
I just looked it up. He was in Chile and Peru in January. I had no idea. I doubt very much that a billion people watched it, or were even aware of it.
Top headline BS :)
Some eejit young wan was rabbiting on about how the youth have no problem with the Catholic Church and that they’ll all be going out for lunch before they go to welcome the Pope in the Phoenix Park. I switched off at that point.
Nobody gives a flying fig that you turned off, or indeed that you turned on in the first place.
Good to know. Thanks, Tops.
actually, i do
#metoo
Je suis Andy.
The simple things keep you interested.
it would sicken your hoop
I had to go to an anniversary mass recently and the church had special boxes at all the entrances for donations. The priest said that they were leaving them there for an extra week so it sounds like people aren’t stumping up to fund this jolly.
Between the pope visit and the abortion referendum there is going to be a lot of shouting at the tv/radio in the coming months
people nattering in the morning either on or off the the radio is a sin against the universe anyway
Especially if their name is Paul Williams
If the church wasn’t raising this money itself people would be complaining it wasn’t paying its way. If it does raise it people like Brian Kennedy moan about pensioners (because he knows only pensioners go to mass) paying for it. And in any case, Brian wants the Pope to hand over the money raised to Fr Peter McVerry.
may be if it paid with its I’ll gotten gains instead of sticking out the begging cap like a “pauper” curiously dressed in gold there would be less complaining
ill gotten..pardon
As usual you are missing the point entirely. As just one example of the hypocrisy of this organization the catholic church in Ireland has paid a fraction of reparations they agreed in the child sex abuse settlements, so they can raise 20 million for a visit by the pope by can’t find the money for the victims of their abuse. It’s disgusting!
+ 20 million
+ 1 realPolithicks, well said
And who could make them?
Our government. But the government or state was also complicit in these crimes against humanity.
But who were the ones who paid the compensation ?
You me your kids their kids
Who was brought to book? No one
No response from newsy I see. As is often the case with people like him, he is only interested in “children” up to the point of birth, after that they are on their own.
Yes. I hate all children once they’re born. All us pro-life people are like that. Cop on realP.
So where would you stand on the issue of retribution balancing out the cost of this visit ?
Do you think it’s ok for parishioners and likely families of victims to foot the bill ?
Anything to be said for pay I g thier own way…its not like they don’t have it afterall.
I didn’t say anything about hating children once they are born, that’s your word. Also you still have no response to my original point.
Janet, I don’t actually understand your first question.
Parishioners are the church. I have no issue whatsoever with them, or any one else VOLUNTEERING to pay the bill for anything they like.
Who are you referring to in your last question? Who are they? The church is paying its own way, some people in the church are raising €20m.
realP – I’m not going to even get into the whole “only interested in kids until they’re born” nonsense again. It’s trite nonsense.
On the issue of the church raising money for a papal visit vs paying people who were victims of institutional abuse, the two can and should go together. But remember, the church is not a monolith. It is the opposite, in fact. For example, that the congregation of the Christian Brothers haven’t yet paid all the compensation they were supposed to has nothing to do with parishioners in the parish of Sneem in the Diocese of Kerry (for example) and what they chose to spend (or not to spend) their money on.
I see we differ in what we refer to as parishioners versus the church
For me they are separate, when I refer to the church or they, I mean the establishment, from the Pope at its head to every other figure of power and discussion maker to it’s lowest order.
I would like this establishment to foot the bill not the followers/ adepts of this establishment
decission maker …pardon
because to my knowledge your average parishioner has little to say in the functioning of the Catholic “church”
Modern Popes tend to die owning a few suits of clothes and a small library. I’m not sure how or why they should pay for a festival in Ireland rather than the local church members who attend, or chose to contribute.
are you really trying to tell me the Catholic church is broke ?
That the Pope personally should be poor as the representative of Christ on earth I agree, however the accumulated wealth of the organisation he as it’s figurehead represents is hardly debatable.
An interesting debate is how they gained that wealth and the moral responsibility of how they now spend it.
Don’t waste your time Janet, he’s a one trick pony. His callous and condesending attitude towards women and his refusal to address the many issues related to the catholic church in general and in Ireland in particular suggests to me that he is a conservative religious person that you can still find in Ireland and the US.
he does have a way of never actually answering the point alright
In reality Nora Casey is getting paid for this.
The big question is how much?
She said on tv last night she wasn’t.
the church deals exclusively in a currency called love
amirite?
and the products thereof…
Just an observation but is there some law that women who wear cheap tacky tiger prints also employ an over zealous botox administrator?
I’m asking for a friend who lives in the north Louth / South Armagh region.
Obviously.
SOQ, why so catty lately?
Let them pay for it from the Magdalen Laundry slave trade profits.