This morning.
RDS Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
Unopened ballot boxes in the Dublin Count Centre from the Referendum of the 36th Amendment to the Constitution Bill 2018 to allow lawmakers to legislate for abortion.
Last night: Yes
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Update:
Counting underway.
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I wonder if they’ll find some with no yes and some with no no?
Romantic Ireland’s dead and gone
It’s with O’Leary in the grave.
And good riddance too.
hear hear
good riddance
My dear hope if the result is as predicted:
– that the Oireachtas will somehow manage to redeem the Minister’s heads of bill
– that the number of additional abortions will be as few as possible, and that the number of total abortions will decrease. I fear it won’t. Having accepted that abortion is an acceptable answer, there is no incentive to reduce its prevalence.
– that Ireland’s remarkably safe maternal healthcare will get better, not worse
– that disabled babies will not be targeted, or rather, further targeted by abortion
– that abortion after 3 months will genuinely be as rare as abortion campaigners have claimed.
People will be watching. People will be counting. Enumerating each and every one of these violations.
ah give it a rest would ya
take up another hobby
like crochet
or maybe Baking
You know frilly, I think justin needs the love of a good woman like yourself to sort out his contrary notions.
Ah that made me feel a bit funny inside
funny inside in a ; ) sort of way?
You know when the head says no and the heart says yes funny
i usually get that with the booze- head is screaming “no, no, no don’t do it”, but everything else is saying, “yeah, go for it, sure why not”
or maybe we’re talking about a different thing
our heart is clearly located in the same region :)
…he’s crochety enough…
The malevolence in your last statement is astounding. It demonstrates exactly why the majority here find your rhetoric so revulsive. Those who think as you do have been told by a substantial majority that we’re not interested in your vision of Ireland. But yet, you’ll regroup, go underground, learn from your more experienced fundamentalists in the USA and make lives hell for those who seek reproductive and maternal health in crisis and those who deliver it.
So screw you and your ilk.
“The malevolence in your last statement is astounding. ”
Malevolence? You think it would be a good idea not to count the number of abortions? I can see why you might think this would be a good idea alright.
Pro life people won’t go underground. I don’t know what gave you that idea. The statistics will be there for all to see. The number of abortions, the age of the babies, the reason for the abortion, the grounds on which it is allowed, the number of children with Down Syndrome born. All these stats will be collected and recorded. As they should. Yes voters will all be reminded of what they’ve voted for.
Won’t go underground huh
Well then here’s a call out
Lets Watch Fianna Fail over the next 6 to 12 months,
I called them eejits for letting a Motion go to their Ard Fheis about keeping what is formerlly now known as the 8th Amendment
that motion was called last October, not 10 years ago, but October 2017,and it was carried by between 5 & 6 to one. All them Pro-Lifer Soldiers are well underground by now
Note this lads, and stamp it
The Shinners will pass Fianna Fail in the next set of Polls
and Timmy Dooley is clearly off the naughty step, watch what he does next
some talk yesterday as to whether we might see mary lou as tanaiste next time round
i wouldn’t bet against her going one better actually, with martin in second
You ceded all moral authority when you decided to protect the 8th. You’re just another hardline extremist willing to do anything to anyone to prevent terminations under any circumstances. You’re not a reasonable voice at all. People like you helped bring this day about. Thanks for nothing.
I’m happy to be called an extremist for standing up for the human rights of those now to be discarded.
Like extremists everywhere you were prepared to let innocent people suffer and die for you cause.
Remember Hello Divorce, Goodbye Daddy? Will we ever get through the backlog.
He said as politicians prepare to discuss another referendum to broaden availability of divorce. “Slippery slope, what slippery slope?”
Just because the ludicrous waiting time is set to be reduced does not mean people will be scrambling in droves to get divorced.
Slippery slope to what, enabling inexpensive non-adversarial and amicable divorce? Quelle horreur!
mine took a month to organise, 5 minutes to do and we had coffee and cake after
it doesn’t make it painless but pulling a plaster off fast is always better
Let’s not pretend there aren’t consequences to relationship breakdown
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/relationship-breakdown-top-cause-of-family-homelessness-1.3327947
There’s also no need to pretend relationships breakdown didn’t already happen in Ireland, and the only thing the divorce referendum really changed was the right to remarry.
You are genuinely missing a connection in your brain.. you really are..
I don’t think this government has any intention of making abortion anything like “rare” just making it legal.
Looking the the headline cases of the past like the X case there will still be a lot of complexity when it comes to pregnancy when the mother is too young to legally consent, not only consent to sex but also consent to make her own medical choices.
12 weeks without any reason means just that, parents can abort for any reason including if they don’t want a female child. It isn’t likely to happen often but no one seemed to have any better idea about how to provide for abortion in rape cases.
I expect the legislation to be adequate but rushed and full of unintended consequences, but Fine Gael will limp along in government a while longer.
“People will be watching. People will be counting. Enumerating each and every one of these violations.”
Always threats from the anti choicers, even in defeat…its pathetic.
What threat? You do want statistics kept, surely?
You’re kidding nobody. We all know exactly what you mean. You extremist types around the world have form.
+1
What do I mean?
Your day is done move on, people like you who attempt to dictate how others live their lives are so out of touch its not even funny.
Yeah, human rights are sooooo 20th century.
Congrats to Ireland. Not such a poohole after all.
The Repeal of the 8th and the result of the SSM referendum show that the majority in Ireland have moved far beyond being dictated to from the pulpit. Can we take this mandate now and push for proper sex education and free access to contraception? With decent, god, sin and shame free, education we can reduce the need for abortion. Norway, as shown in the Would You Believe programme on RTÉ, have embraced this and the result was a huge reduction in teen abortions. I’d expect the usual suspects to object but, as we’ve clearly seen, those hypocrites are merely a vocal minority.
now it’s time to take control of OUR schools and OUR hospitals
Easy. Just hold a referendum to repeal private property rights now too.
Let’s have that referendum so.
Should the State be allowed to use a Compulsory Purchase Order to separate Church and State in Educational and Health facilities in the interests of the common good?
Yes
No
Or how about an evaluation as to the costs of manifold and various abuses in terms of compensation and fines and take that value in property.
Yes. I’ll be voting yes, and you have my vote for taoiseach too.
I’ll let Leo know.
That referendum would actually be unconstitutional. You’d have to have a constitutional referendum first to diminish private property rights.
Classic land grab Nigel. Nothing new.
Reparations. Undo the cap placed on liability in the 90s which was an act of state collusion in protecting the church over victims at the expense of tax payers.
Absolutely yes. Where do they think the money to buy these properties came from in the first place? Not some generous bequest from Rome. It was squeezed out of their Irish parishioners, not to mention slave labour in Magdalene laundries and international baby trafficking.
Seriously. Slave labour and boo boo baby trafficking. Do they not understand how despicable they have become to us? And still shielded by a state that has clearly fallen out of touch with its citizens.
Nigel, your high moral ground against slavery and human trafficking crumbles as you stand up for the killing of unwanted humans.
It really, really doesn’t.
Take the church out of schools completely, if people want a religious education for their kids they can do it after school.
Newsjustin, your side lost by a landslide how about a little humility and less of the constant moral superiority. You put your arguments out there and they were resoundingly rejected.
Why would I suddenly decide I can live with the abortion of my unwanted fellow humans, just because people voted for it?
“Ah lads, ye were right all along. Abort away!”
That’s not what it’s about and well you know it. When you get over the bitter sting of defeat you might even admit it to yourself.
Welcome to the grey realities of post-catholic-imperialism. We’re just trying to muddle through in the ruins they helped make.
Thanks David. I’m writing a strongly worded letter at this very moment.
Good to see your head didn’t explode.
Can you bring back Charger? I love that guy. He’s your best one yet.
no need for a referendum
criminal assets bureau, more like
that is exactly what has to happen
the biggest squeeze, for school places particularly, is Urban centres, namely Dublin
and its pretty much 8:2 here
they are done
let’s do it Brother !
Great take control of schools and make them all secular and badly underfunded too.
Everyone wants better schools and hospitals, nobody ever wants to pay for it.
you think the church are funding the schools?
Declan Ganley on Twitter:
‘When due to the snuffing out of their human rights, the first of countless thousands of Ireland’s unborn children are killed in Irish clinics or hospitals, all those that voted No can at least know you fought the good fight to try to save those little ones. Heros all.’
What a hero!
He’s 100% correct. It will be little comfort as the body count ticks up though.
He was fine though as long as women continued to shove off to the city of his birth, Liverpool. What a hero.