77 thoughts on “De Thursday Papers

    1. Blo Jo Brexit

      +1 Easy money for our learned friends. And taxpayers money wasted by the State Examinations Commission obstinacy and ineptitude and by UCD not being able to do the right thing and wait. Such buffoonery – a court action at what – 25K per lawyer per day? All because somebody cannot add up a few numbers correctly…

      1. Cian

        True. But the exam commission needs to be fair to 60,000 people. And the appeal process needs to be robust enough to fairly deal with all complaints.

      1. Romeo C

        A ridiculous comment, legal aid would have been available if necessary…..and rightly so for a genuine case like this one….not like where it’s given so easy to lazy lay abouts who are in our courts day in day out

  1. Blo Jo Brexit

    The Daily Star. Honestly, BS why do you publish this kind of stuff. A paper any taxi driver can read with one hand.
    Any wonder some Students Unions don’t allow it to be sold on campuses in Ireland.

    1. Ollie Cromwell

      Not a single Irish university in the THE supplement top 100 and the highest-ranked,TCD,slips even further down the table to 120.
      Given the level of intellect and independent thinking on here why am I not surprised ?
      Perhaps the Daily Star ought to be the students’ newspaper of choice after all …

        1. milk teeth

          Mostly by a set of criteria which was designed to keep Oxbridge at the top. All universities must be set up and served like Oxbrdige – anything else is a failure. For example if you’re university who takes people from poor backgrounds who drop out because they can’t afford the fees you are hugely punished on the rankings.
          I’m not really into the commodification of education and support learning for learning sake but really they should include things like earning potential increase from applicant to graduate so you can see the value added by the degree and the social progress the university supports.

          1. Ollie Cromwell

            Never mind who is at the top.
            There’s not even a single Irish university in the top 100.
            And the highest-ranking keeps on falling every year.

        1. millie st murderlark


          In fact, I’d even go so far as to say his material is getting a little stale. Any more of this and we’ll be able to play extreme ollie bingo.

          Top prize: A Union Jack.

          1. millie st murderlark

            I think we all would. It’d be incomplete without socks though. Only to be worn during ‘intimate’ sexytime moments, of course.

          2. Why do I even care?

            I was out late last Saturday night and wearing white ankle socks with your heels and a short skirt is having a moment now…

            the fake tan and mindless drunken antics weren’t that sexy though …

      1. Blo Jo Brexit

        Last time I strolled through TCD it was full of rich Brit brats over here taking advantage of the EU travel freedom and the ‘free’ fees here instead of paying top dollar at home.

        Any wonder standards are slipping… dear me, dear me…

        I expect standards will rise once Brexit Bakeoff kicks in…

        1. Ollie Cromwell

          If they’re rich Brits why would they need to go to Ireland to avail of cheaper third-level education ?
          You really haven’t though that one through have you ?
          Another graduate from Roscommon University’s ploughing faculty.

          1. Ollie Cromwell

            I suppose if they’re thick an Irish university is the only place they’re going to get in.

            Keep ’em coming lads.

      2. Jeffrey

        You surprised? Uni and even College before that in Ireland is one big joke. Compared to France or Germany is laughable the levels of teaching are so low.

  2. SOQ

    Corbyn puts paid to the idea of a hard Brexit. Just remain or soft which begs the question: why are the Tories and the media framing it that only the opposite is possible? If he can keep the party together while the Tories eat themselves, he will be in no 10. The only way May can deliver what he demands is if she splits her own party straight down the middle. He really is displaying excellent strategic and leadership skills right now.

      1. Cú Chulainn

        The same strongholds that now realise that there are no nurses.. they’d vote very differently next time..

        1. MaryLou's ArmaLite

          I’d doubt it, have you been to the North of England lately? There is poverty, mistrust and anger everywhere.

          1. MaryLou's ArmaLite

            No it won’t, I didn’t say it would. But the people of the North are pee’d off and the EU is the scapegoat.

          2. Ollie Cromwell

            The more important question is do the people of Sunderland ?
            They did and,according to most polls,they continue to do so.
            Corbyn and McDonell know this too which is why Brexit will happen.

          3. Martco

            I’ll be the judge of the importance of the question as it’s my question & my question stands, thanks @Charger

            Well? @MaryLou? Do you believe Brexit will deliver wealth & prosperity on the people in Sunderland, Grimbsy etc?

          4. Martco

            well thanks for answering a straight question with a straight answer @MaryLou (unlike many here)

            if I can ask another please..
            so if Brexit won’t benefit the Sunderland’s & (insert any place you like which formerly benefitted from the crumbs off the table of Britain’s rich industrial revolution heritage…Belfast for example) what is it all about for you?

          5. Martco


            ah cmon we were doing so well with the straight questions & answers

            any chance of a reply? (or has some very large penny just dropped?)

          6. MaryLou's ArmaLite

            Different groups have different reasons, but at the heart of it the EU is being blamed for everything wrong in Britain. This disaffection has been manipulated and encouraged by shithead politicians.

          7. Martco

            it surely has @MaryLou

            (and by those who supplement their wages I’d wager)

            for the ordinary person this is all a nonsense & deception at their expense

            If history matters so much…..this potentially is a period that won’t be looked upon so kindly by future generations

          8. Why do I even care?

            @ Martco – no you won’t be the judge of the importance of it.
            The democratic choice of the people of Sunderland will decide the matter.
            See above Ollie’s comment re university rankings. He’s nailed it, proof that even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

        2. Hansel

          Exactly what I believe also Charger, it’s irrelevant what we believe or what those in Manchester or London believe, all that matters is what the general population in the UK believe. From talking to a number of people, I’m not convinced there’s a big change. A lot of the public still believe that the UK will be better off outside the EU, no matter the cost.

          1. Ollie Cromwell

            Leave him off.
            I doubt he gets out of Offaly that often so he’s hardly likely to know what the people of the UK think.

          2. SOQ

            The political landscape is very different to two years ago. UKIP have imploded for a start and they were responsible for most of the anti EU sentiment.

            It is a given now that Brexit is a rich man’s game and that the poorest will be hit hardest. Corbyn’s test or metric based approach cannot be faulted because it explains how and where working peoples lives will be most affected.

  3. Ollie Cromwell

    I’m looking forward to a weekend of excellent golfing action.
    Always good to see Britain and the USA go head to head in the Ryder Cup.

    1. Why do I even care?

      hahaha excellent work

      To think that the best they can come up with in return is make fun of your apparent girth

        1. bisted

          …with some HP brown sauce…oops, made in Netherlands…Colmans English Mustard…no, made in Germany…thanfully, you still have salad cream…

          1. Why do I even care?

            Isn’t Diageo mostly a US conglomerate now?

            Well same thing really, Brexit Britain is lubing up to take it up the ring from Donald and become a vassal colonial outpost of Washington

  4. Ollie Cromwell

    Cracking work on the Novichock hitman in the Telegraph.
    The conspiracy theorists on here blaming MI5 at the time of the incident have gone very quiet.
    Even Corbyn has had to admit the truth.
    Ignored by the Morning Star natch.

    1. Why do I even care?

      haha the simple minded fools were posting here that it was all the work of MI5 alright
      quoted Craig Brown and other worthless attention-grabbing non-entities
      Do you remember the waffle about the pictures?

      1. Ollie Cromwell

        ” How can two different people be in the same corridor at the same time ” sleuthed Sherlock O’Holmes and his bogger sidekick Doc O’Martins on here.
        Not for once considering airports have identical corridors.
        They genuinely thought they were more intelligent than the British intelligence services whose work helps keep Ireland safe.
        Irish Intelligence being an oxymoron of course.

        1. Martco

          why do you use multiple usernames to have conversations with yourself?
          are you ok? or is this some clickbait schem€ on Broadsheet I haven’t gotten wind of?

    2. Martco

      Bell?ingcat’s work

      reported on by all the national papers including the Torygraph

      or don’t you read anything else @Charger?

  5. Ollie Cromwell

    That’s why I wrote IN the Telegraph and not BY the Telegraph.
    Although I can see why that went whoosh over your head.

    1. f_lawless

      you need to dig a bit deeper than the Telegraph mate. The ever-changing narrative given in the British press remains so full of holes as to not be credible. Not least is that with these guys fingered as the culprits, the longest possible time between the Novichok being applied on the doroknob and the Skripals touching it is just over an hour. But that throws off previous explanations given by experts on the likes of BBC that the reason the Skripals didn’t die from this “10 times deadlier that VX” nerve agent was because the gel was applied the previous night and had degraded.
      Disappointed in Corbyn for towing the line – but I don’t think he was ever realistically going to take on the British “deep state”/ intelligence services what ever you want to call it.

    2. Nigel

      I guess what’s interesting about this is that so far it has not been seen as in the interests of pro-Brexiteers to openly acknowledge the possibility and the implications of the UK being a target of Putin’s asymmetrical hybrid warfare, and that it poses real threats.

      1. f_lawless

        – something something – Putin Putin – racist Brexit voters – deplorable Trump supporters – the rise of the ‘alt-right’ – phony ‘left wing’ corporate media talking points and labels – smug condescension – virtue signalling

          1. Nigel

            Well, so long as you claim sole responsibility for it, it’s better than another tedious endless lecture on my enslavement to the lies of mainstream media.

          2. f_lawless

            I wouldn’t have phrased it so dramatically but yes, I do think you repeatedly come across as too trusting of authority and corporate media narratives considering these highly propagandised times we live in and apologies if I come across as trying lecture – I suppose communicating via a comment section has its limitations..

            I’m just reading Craig Murray’s take :
            “Read Bellingcat’s methodology. No prior intel that Chepiga was Boshirov. They trawled a database of photos of GRU officers about the right age until they found one that looks a bit like him – photo on the left. Guess what – it looks a bit like him. Except nose and skull shape.”
            I think he just might have a point – to me, bone structure around the eyebrows in 1 looks different – rounded eyebrows whereas 2,3 have arched eyebrows. What do you think?
            Could there also be an element of the “cross-race effect” at play here (ie- ” the tendency to more easily recognise faces of the race that one is most familiar with”). Is it harder to distinguish subtle differences between similar looking people with strong Slavic features? Just floating it out there!

            Bearing in mind too that Bellingcat, in not an impartial player, openly works in conjunction with Neocon think-thank the Atlantic Council; and on various occasions has had his analyses discredited by trained forensics, whereas Murray on this Skripal saga, has already shown himself ahead of the curve – when he claimed that (despite govt. claims) Porton Down were unable to identify the source of the nerve agent – a full two weeks before any corporate media outlet would eventually report on it.
            I’m still open to his musings on this one unless something new arises to prove otherwise.

          3. Nigel

            Actually, you tend to read conclusions and opinions into my comments that were never there and go wildly off on a wild tear about stuff, which leads me to have some doubts about your own authority as a critical thinker in terms of media consumption.

          4. f_lawless

            I would suggest you’re not expressing yourself very clearly as that’s how you often come across when commenting on world politics. I know I’m not the only commenter who might say the same. Or.. maybe you’re not as self aware as you might think?
            Eg, Only the other day I read a comment where you were essentially perpetuating the dangerous myth of WW2 as the “Good War” (ie- you said something along the lines of “the noble allies coming together to defeat an enemy at great cost but for the greater good”) but your comment showed no awareness that it is indeed a dangerous myth which these days is promoted particularly by Western interventionists.
            I’d recommend reading this article. The Guardian, that’s according to your palate, isn’t it?
            noteworthy paragraph:
            “(The myth of the ‘Good War’) has led us to an easier acceptance of “liberal interventionism”, founded on the assumption that we in the west are alone virtuous and qualified to distinguish political right from wrong – and the conviction that our self-evidently virtuous ends must justify whatever means we employ, lighting up a bomber flare path from Dresden to Baghdad to Tripoli. “

          5. Nigel

            I see. My one-line comment about the second world war was not ideologically acceptable so now we’re going to invade Venezuela. Sorry.

  6. bridget lawlor

    I never asked for a 3grand a night room but took it
    Says the president who vowed to bring a new value to the presidency
    And 317000.00 good reasons why all candidates are not fit for office
    Time the whole corrupt little scam is terminated

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