Ah.

Meanwhile

Close to one thousand people marched through Drogheda [yesterday] to protest at proposals to change the name of Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital.

The hospital, which is one of the busiest acute hospitals in the country, was bought by the HSE from the Medical Missionaries of Mary in 1997.

It is understood that staff were asked which of three other names it should be called: Drogheda University Hospital, Drogheda Regional Hospital or Drogheda General Hospital.

Hundreds march to protest name change of Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital (Independent.ie)

38 thoughts on “Pray Hard

  1. John

    What aout the “Michael Neary Centre for Gynecological excellence” for the new name?
    I think it has a nice ring to it.

  2. Murtles

    Praying……
    Praying……
    Praying……
    …….Internet Connection Lost, Check Connectivity

    Sorry Ray, done me best

  3. Timble

    How the hell does Ray Kinsella know about the medical treatment of a private citizen?

    the name of the hospital is irrelevant. Every one in the area and those using it refers to it as ‘The Lourdes’ and that won’t change anytime soon.

    1. BobbyJ

      I’d disagree on your name change theory. Change the name now and over time the new name will become embedded.

      Sure, some people will continue to refer to it as ‘The Lourdes’ but they will, in time, become the minority.

      1. Cian

        My mam still calls it Amiens Street station – old habits die hard.

        I still call the Point it the Point Depot. Not the Oh Too or the Tree or for whatever it is now called.

        1. BobbyJ

          But you don’t call it Amiens St Station and you can bet that everyone younger than you calls it Connolly

        1. BobbyJ

          That is a case of corporate sponsorship (like The Point / 3 Arena). Naming rights that can be bought or sold will never fully replace original names.

          What is proposed in Drogheda is different, this is not a case of corporate sponsorship

    2. Frank Lee O’Bese

      “Ray Kinsella” – it’s like a made-up name in Fair City for a taxi driver with a speaking part (out of his backstop).

  4. Martco

    utterly disgusting

    but this goes back to what I wrote at referendum time to anyone getting their head in a twist with likes of @newsjustin & some of his difficult to process views

    this is a war to them

    it never ends, just more battles

    until they are eradicated from involvement in state machinery particularly hospitals & schools they have unnecessary relevance & control & this kind of crap will occur

    1. newsjustin

      I wouldn’t describe my opposition to abortion as war.

      It’s just civil discourse. You know my views on the matter of abortion. They aren’t fundamentally altered by the referendum and new abortion legislation.

      You’re correct though that civil rights debates and campaigns do go on. Like how those who championed the right to abortion after the 1983 referendum went on. I don’t know if there’s any country in the world where abortion is legal, that there isn’t some form of civic/political resistance to it.

      1. Daisy Chainsaw

        Prochoice activists didn’t picket hospitals or surgeries for not providing abortions in 1983. They didn’t intimidate pregnant women and girls going to their appointments, or any other person going in for an appointment.

        1. newsjustin

          They continued campaigning was my point.

          Of course they didn’t picket hospitals or GPs, as it makes no sense to picket nothing….the absence of something.

          I’m not sure about picketing GPs and hospitals. I suspect there’s a right and wrong way of approaching that. But I can see why people might do it…if they believe there’s a human rights violation going on. Same way someone might picket a Direct Provision Centre, prison or Garda Station.

          1. Lobster

            What do you think the right way to do that could look like? Do you think the current pickets are wrong?

  5. Iwerzon

    Serious privacy breach by Kinsella which needs to be investigated – also, if this is a hospital medical procedure and not oral pill termination then it is most likely a fatal fetal abnormality and the patient should be protected from the stress and abuse of any protest.

    1. Cian

      Serious privacy breach by Kinsella which needs to be investigated – also, if this is a hospital medical procedure and not oral pill termination then it is most likely a fatal fetal abnormality and the patient should be protected from the stress and abuse of any protest.

      FTFY

    2. newsjustin

      I agree re privacy issue. But fyi, a significant minority of “straightforward” <12 week abortions do end up being surgical abortions.

  6. Iwerzon

    Thanks Cian – I hope your condescending wrist-slap gives you a warm fuzzy feeling of self worth this morning. D**k!

  7. ReproBertie

    If the abortion goes ahead does that mean that:
    a) prayer doesn’t work,
    b) god doesn’t care,
    c) there is no god, or
    d) all of the above

    “When I was back there in seminary school there was a person there who put forth the proposition that you can petition the Lord with prayer.
    Petition.
    The Lord.
    with Prayer.
    YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD, WITH PRAYER!”

  8. Marbe

    Is a hospital’s procedures list now open to the general public? surely all this information is confidential? It certainly should be.

  9. kellMA

    Mr Kinsella could just be taking a stab in the dark. Maybe there is a procedure there today, maybe there isn’t. Either way, he has made his point. There will always be people who object to this change and there is not much we can do about it. Best thing is to ignore them. The way I look at it is if I ever had to avail of these services (which is highly unlikely as my baby days are nearly over); if I had to pass a wall of fanatical fools Id just ignore them. I made my choice for me and my life and those people know neither me nor my life. Hope their own is going along tickety-boo for them…. (hint; it probably isn’t)

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