At the WEF/World Economic Forum, Bono said capitalism is ‘amoral’ and ‘a wild beast’.
Bono’s net worth – $700 million
Hmmmmmm….
The Great Wall of Gammon
What’s so hmmm about that statement? It’s a perfectly apt way to describe capitalism.
Clampers Outside!
That thing is terrible you should stop immersing the world in it, says he, as he takes a leisurely bath in it.
f_lawless
I haven’t seen his speech, but are you sure he was saying it was terrible? Amoral is not having a sense of good and bad as opposed to immoral
The Great Wall of Gammon
Precisely. If he said it was immoral, then it would have been hypocritical. The acquisition of wealth is not in itself inherently evil. When the second precept is undermined by unabashed greed, now that’s evil. Is Bono driven by greed? I can’t say but I’d seriously doubt it.
Niallo
Bono is a pox
Shayna
To be fair about Bono – he and The Edge wrote definitive songs of the age. Interestingly, most of Bono’s wealth is derived from Facebook. He apparently invested in Facebook before the public announcement on Wall Street. If I could be indulged, a brief story? Bono seems to me to be okay – I was asked if I was Bono’s daughter’s friend in a pub in Brighton by a a guy who claimed to know John Ryan? It’s a tad mad?
I’ve never met Bono’s daughter.
Dub Spot
BFD, even Karl Marx (admittedly well above your raading level} acknowledged the same AND that capitalism did make people rich….
Clampers Outside!
…heh :)
Dub Spot
Miriam O’Callaghan: “I’m suing Facebook to rescue my Presidential ambitions after the disastrous Primetime transphobia earlier this week. I was only the public face of it.”
Eoin
I wonder will she sue Facebook at all or is this just a shot across Facebook’s bows to do something about what appears to be a scam whereby someone is selling what they falsely claim is “Miriam O’Callaghan face cream”, and worse, they’re creating malicious stories on Facebook about Miriam (“Miriam’s been axed by RTE”) which click through to a site where you can order said face cream. Someone appears to be making major moolah from the cream, which costs €5 down and then another €100 unless you return it.
If Miriam was serious about this, wouldn’t she be reporting it to the Gardai? If only she knew someone in the legal fraternity from whom she could get advice? Maybe a politician who is the main Opposition justice spokesperson.
Dub Spot
“But. . . . but . . . Moy PR Agent said this was important.”
“Miriam O’Callaghan face cream”
Probablty just me….
Giggidygoo
There have been similar types of adverts featuring Bryan Dobson. Not only on face book, but they pop up in Google chrome as well.
So she’ll be suing all and sundry.
Dub Spot
So will Bryan Dobson–if he has the same PR agency as O’Callaghan. Or ‘likes’ her face cream.
Woman with eight kids takes on Facebook . . .yeah, right. Expensive action….
rotide
Having been paying much attention but having seen that primetime, how could you possibly think it was transphobic in any way shape or form?
SOQ
They gave a known transphobe a platform, interviewed a therapist who felt it was for the most part just a phase while omitting to speak to the consultants who actually treat the condition?
rotide
Apart from when they spoke to the people that treated the condition?
SOQ
Which consultant did they speak to please?
rotide
also:
“interviewed a therapist who felt it was for the most part just a phase”
You mean a trained psychologist who went through exactly what the programme was talking about and felt that she ‘grew out of it’ and posited that others may as well. Are you denying her experience?
SOQ
Not at all but her personal experience should not have been an influencing factor, it came across as quite unprofessional to be honest.
Clampers Outside!
Those silly trans folk who support him, they must be told they are wrong. And that the ideological way forward promoted by those who hate him is all that matters…. :/
SOQ
Now Clamps, you well know I many things but towing a party line is not one of them.
Are you actually saying that there are Trans people who share his view that some trans women are only doing it to get at teenage girls in changing rooms?
Really?
MaryLou's ArmaLite
Rachel Reilly is the latest to feel the hate from the knuckle dragging anti-Semitic wing of Labour.
Dub Spot
Quick, the 2 gammon steak you’re having for breakfast are burning…. oh, right, it’s only a mirror.
Martco
ah feck snorted my tea there, thanks pal
:)
bisted
…according to Netanyahu, Irelands vote to ban goods produced in occupied territories is anti-semetic and disgusting…he should close his embassy here and take all his consular staff home to Washington…
Gabby
I understand that Palestinians are semites/semitic people who speak Arabic instead of modern Hebrew.
Dub Spot
GRMA, Note how MaryLou’s ArmaLite is more toxic male masculinity. Would he post under the name Gerry’s Semtex Teddy? Would he f . . .
Giggidygoo
Snigger
Eoin
This will banish any lingering January blues.
Sunday Times reports
“The director of public prosecutions (DPP) is taking a contempt of court action against the Irish Independent’s editor, a reporter and the newspaper’s publisher over a comment piece that caused the collapse of a rape case last November. Last week, the DPP filed a High Court action seeking attachment orders against the newspaper’s editor Fionnán Sheahan, journalist Nicola Anderson and Independent News & Media (INM).The DPP could seek the imprisonment of the journalists or a fine over publication of the report.”
Giggidygoo
We live in hope.
Eoin
You say that, but can someone urgently check in with Anne Harris to make sure she hasn’t succumbed to a severe bout of laughing-your-hole-off-itis.
Eoin
Brilliant news! Melania Trump won’t need to buy her clothes at Zara anymore as she gets “substantial damages” from the Telegraph. How much? No-one is saying at the minute, but back in 2017, Melania wanted $150m from the Daily Mail, she got $2.9m from them in April 2017 according to CNN. Mind you, the Daily Mail had accused her of being on the game, the Telegraph had only dissed her academic and career performance; I reckon she probably got around $1m from the Telegraph.
That is a doozy of an apology. Buzzfeed research stories better than that.
Eoin
RTE is facing a fine of up to €20 million after RTE itself reported, erm, RTE to the data protection commissioner after what looks like a running order for Morning Ireland was published online with the name of a prominent sportsman who was, according to the RTE document, arrested. Those new damned GDPR rules and the massive fines for non-compliance, wha?
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
Was that what I saw via WhatsApp? Yikes.
Spud
Still no word on this story?
thought on of the papers was going to run it last week following from charges being pressed…. DPP still weighing up the case so?
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
Must be. Every dog on the road knows the dealio by now I’d say.
Ger Mc
Can you still bring charges if a victim decides to withdraw a statement?
Lilly
Yes, you can but it’s unlikely to succeed. The DPP prosecutes on behalf of the State, with the alleged victim as witness. Let’s say the victim is paid off by the perpetrator, her powers of recollection could become extremely vague to the detriment of her evidence.
The Old Boy
People charged with sexual offences in Ireland retain legal anonymity unless and until they are convicted, unless to name them could identify the victim. If anything, charging someone makes it less likely they would be named in the press.
Eoin
Was that what you saw on WhatsApp? I don’t know, but yes definitely!
What’s particularly satisfying about this story is the likelihood RTE got the info from the same sources that broke all sorts of rules with revealing Clare Daly’s arrest. I wonder will RTE have to pay out for any GDPR penalty or will it try to share the fine with its “sources”.
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
It was a photo of a printout of the running order of the show naming the perp, saying **NB DO NOT RUN THIS STORY** or somesuch.
SOQ
Don’t delve into the higher end office politics of RTÉ, it is even more complicated than that of CIÉ.
Dub Spot
Not GDPR. Legally wrong; ethically amoral. Law been in existence for a bit:
Respect the fact that users on site X are not our users and that they are not bound by the same Terms of Use and guidelines as we apply at RTÉ. Attempts to enforce our rules on third-party sites may lead to resentment, criticism and in some cases outright hostility to RTÉ (See note on Moderation and House Rules).
&
Tweets/Retweets
When using social media accounts (all classifications) always consider the possible implications of the content that you are about to post. Could it reflect badly on you or RTÉ? If so, don’t publish.
SOQ
Surely it would all depend on who stuck it on Twitter?
If for example, someone took a picture of a computer monitor in a bank which was displaying an high profile individual’s banking records and done likewise, is that a GDPR breech?
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
Damn right it is.
SOQ
Even if the customer was asking for it?
Eoin
The annual fantasy of the Sunday Independent’s Rich List 2019 has now been published online for all.
Basically saying FF are holding a gun to their head over the backstop. If an election happens, tactically, FF are set to gain in the polls because reneging on the backstop would be a hugely unpopular move.
Johnny
LA is the best sports town in the word,with Rams headed super bowl next week,Lebron lighting up the Staples center nightly (ok injured right now)and the Dodgers coming off a great World Series performance.Fook Boston it’s the most boring town in world,full plastic paddies-oh I’m irish too,eh no your not your a dumb yank wearing green pants,and no I don’t know your great great grandfathers family.
Here’s the vision for the future of sports from the owner of Arsenal.
‘At a cost estimated at more than $5 billion, the development — its formal name is the LA Stadium & Entertainment District at Hollywood Park — includes a 70,240-seat stadium and 6,000-seat performance center under one roof that will anchor a 298-acre complex of office buildings, shops, restaurants, residential units, hotels and parks. It’s 3½ the size of Disneyland and twice as big as Vatican City’
Is this your first time posting ‘gerry’ or just first time using this handle,I go slow for you ok.
Johnny
Interesting court case over affordable housing and NIMBY’s.
Can you imagine FG doing this-ha ha !
‘The legal action is part of a push by the governor to flex the state’s muscles over homebuilding, an issue that has long been the domain of local government. In his budget announcement this month, Newsom threatened to withhold state transportation dollars from cities and counties that reject development and proposed allocating $1.3 billion as incentive for local governments to accommodate growth and homeless services.
Although cities and counties do not build homes, local restrictions on development, such as high fees or a lack of land zoned for residential use, can prevent construction that might otherwise occur. Higher-income coastal communities, including Huntington Beach, often maintain some of the tightest development rules in the state, even as housing costs have soared over the last decade‘
Do you feel overwhelmed a lot ‘gerry’,inedaquate and like you didn’t get the manual for living.Its normal before making stupid trolling comments to actually read the link and comment on that.But given your poor grasp of the nuances around here I will give you a little help ‘gerry’.
There have been numerous examples and it’s currently estimated that thousands of new and proposed housing has been blocked by local elected representatives in Dublin.
‘Labour Senator Aodhán Ó Ríordáin is organising support for a judicial review to overturn approval granted for a 164-apartment development in Howth, north Co Dublin.‘
The linked article which clearly is above you pay grade gerry in that you’d either didn’t read it or could not understated it,again those feelings of inadequacy huh,is an example of how get around this entrenched opposition.
“It is unprecedented,” said Cesar Covarrubias, executive director of the Kennedy Commission, the Orange County affordable housing group that previously sued Huntington Beach. “We’re seeing that the state is using all its resources to address the housing crisis. We need all local governments to do the same”
The link is above gerry,instead of making a complete idiot of yourself,again those feelings of less than,how about you actually read the link-duh !
GiggidyGoo
Looking at the Andrew Marr show earlier and he was interviewing Simon Coveney. I’m not a FG fan but to be fair, Coveney came across as ultra professional with a clear, concise, non aggressive air. When I compare his performance to Varadkar’s various interviews it’s more and more clear that the real leader of FG should be Coveney.
Glad that priest in Multyfarnham had the presence of mind to save that TD from commiting a further grave sin by receiving Holy Communion whilst having his support for abortion on his conscience.
Daisy Chainsaw
I’m sure the good priest has absolved some of his fellow brothers of the cloth of the sin of buggering children. I love the smell of hypocrisy in the evening.
newsjustin
I don’t know and I can never know that. Nor can you.
But, even if that was the case, you’ve failed to make any case for hypocrisy. Is it just that you really, really wanted to get that image out there?
Frank Lee O’Bese
Done with the Sunday papers. Can you nip down to SPAR after Duncing With The Stars and Monday’s up early?
.
Ta,
Cú Chulainn
Here’s the deal..
Cú Chulainn
I’m not telling youss..
Gertrude
Yes, we must deploy the army immediately, to Killarney National Park, the ‘rhododendron situation’ is the real crisis of the week. Fair play to the Healy-R brothers for keeping things in perspective ;-)
At the WEF/World Economic Forum, Bono said capitalism is ‘amoral’ and ‘a wild beast’.
Bono’s net worth – $700 million
Hmmmmmm….
What’s so hmmm about that statement? It’s a perfectly apt way to describe capitalism.
That thing is terrible you should stop immersing the world in it, says he, as he takes a leisurely bath in it.
I haven’t seen his speech, but are you sure he was saying it was terrible? Amoral is not having a sense of good and bad as opposed to immoral
Precisely. If he said it was immoral, then it would have been hypocritical. The acquisition of wealth is not in itself inherently evil. When the second precept is undermined by unabashed greed, now that’s evil. Is Bono driven by greed? I can’t say but I’d seriously doubt it.
Bono is a pox
To be fair about Bono – he and The Edge wrote definitive songs of the age. Interestingly, most of Bono’s wealth is derived from Facebook. He apparently invested in Facebook before the public announcement on Wall Street. If I could be indulged, a brief story? Bono seems to me to be okay – I was asked if I was Bono’s daughter’s friend in a pub in Brighton by a a guy who claimed to know John Ryan? It’s a tad mad?
I’ve never met Bono’s daughter.
BFD, even Karl Marx (admittedly well above your raading level} acknowledged the same AND that capitalism did make people rich….
…heh :)
Miriam O’Callaghan: “I’m suing Facebook to rescue my Presidential ambitions after the disastrous Primetime transphobia earlier this week. I was only the public face of it.”
I wonder will she sue Facebook at all or is this just a shot across Facebook’s bows to do something about what appears to be a scam whereby someone is selling what they falsely claim is “Miriam O’Callaghan face cream”, and worse, they’re creating malicious stories on Facebook about Miriam (“Miriam’s been axed by RTE”) which click through to a site where you can order said face cream. Someone appears to be making major moolah from the cream, which costs €5 down and then another €100 unless you return it.
If Miriam was serious about this, wouldn’t she be reporting it to the Gardai? If only she knew someone in the legal fraternity from whom she could get advice? Maybe a politician who is the main Opposition justice spokesperson.
“But. . . . but . . . Moy PR Agent said this was important.”
“Miriam O’Callaghan face cream”
Probablty just me….
There have been similar types of adverts featuring Bryan Dobson. Not only on face book, but they pop up in Google chrome as well.
So she’ll be suing all and sundry.
So will Bryan Dobson–if he has the same PR agency as O’Callaghan. Or ‘likes’ her face cream.
Woman with eight kids takes on Facebook . . .yeah, right. Expensive action….
Having been paying much attention but having seen that primetime, how could you possibly think it was transphobic in any way shape or form?
They gave a known transphobe a platform, interviewed a therapist who felt it was for the most part just a phase while omitting to speak to the consultants who actually treat the condition?
Apart from when they spoke to the people that treated the condition?
Which consultant did they speak to please?
also:
“interviewed a therapist who felt it was for the most part just a phase”
You mean a trained psychologist who went through exactly what the programme was talking about and felt that she ‘grew out of it’ and posited that others may as well. Are you denying her experience?
Not at all but her personal experience should not have been an influencing factor, it came across as quite unprofessional to be honest.
Those silly trans folk who support him, they must be told they are wrong. And that the ideological way forward promoted by those who hate him is all that matters…. :/
Now Clamps, you well know I many things but towing a party line is not one of them.
Are you actually saying that there are Trans people who share his view that some trans women are only doing it to get at teenage girls in changing rooms?
Really?
Rachel Reilly is the latest to feel the hate from the knuckle dragging anti-Semitic wing of Labour.
Quick, the 2 gammon steak you’re having for breakfast are burning…. oh, right, it’s only a mirror.
ah feck snorted my tea there, thanks pal
:)
…according to Netanyahu, Irelands vote to ban goods produced in occupied territories is anti-semetic and disgusting…he should close his embassy here and take all his consular staff home to Washington…
I understand that Palestinians are semites/semitic people who speak Arabic instead of modern Hebrew.
GRMA, Note how MaryLou’s ArmaLite is more toxic male masculinity. Would he post under the name Gerry’s Semtex Teddy? Would he f . . .
Snigger
This will banish any lingering January blues.
Sunday Times reports
“The director of public prosecutions (DPP) is taking a contempt of court action against the Irish Independent’s editor, a reporter and the newspaper’s publisher over a comment piece that caused the collapse of a rape case last November. Last week, the DPP filed a High Court action seeking attachment orders against the newspaper’s editor Fionnán Sheahan, journalist Nicola Anderson and Independent News & Media (INM).The DPP could seek the imprisonment of the journalists or a fine over publication of the report.”
We live in hope.
You say that, but can someone urgently check in with Anne Harris to make sure she hasn’t succumbed to a severe bout of laughing-your-hole-off-itis.
Brilliant news! Melania Trump won’t need to buy her clothes at Zara anymore as she gets “substantial damages” from the Telegraph. How much? No-one is saying at the minute, but back in 2017, Melania wanted $150m from the Daily Mail, she got $2.9m from them in April 2017 according to CNN. Mind you, the Daily Mail had accused her of being on the game, the Telegraph had only dissed her academic and career performance; I reckon she probably got around $1m from the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/26/melania-trump-apology/
That is a doozy of an apology. Buzzfeed research stories better than that.
RTE is facing a fine of up to €20 million after RTE itself reported, erm, RTE to the data protection commissioner after what looks like a running order for Morning Ireland was published online with the name of a prominent sportsman who was, according to the RTE document, arrested. Those new damned GDPR rules and the massive fines for non-compliance, wha?
Was that what I saw via WhatsApp? Yikes.
Still no word on this story?
thought on of the papers was going to run it last week following from charges being pressed…. DPP still weighing up the case so?
Must be. Every dog on the road knows the dealio by now I’d say.
Can you still bring charges if a victim decides to withdraw a statement?
Yes, you can but it’s unlikely to succeed. The DPP prosecutes on behalf of the State, with the alleged victim as witness. Let’s say the victim is paid off by the perpetrator, her powers of recollection could become extremely vague to the detriment of her evidence.
People charged with sexual offences in Ireland retain legal anonymity unless and until they are convicted, unless to name them could identify the victim. If anything, charging someone makes it less likely they would be named in the press.
Was that what you saw on WhatsApp? I don’t know, but yes definitely!
What’s particularly satisfying about this story is the likelihood RTE got the info from the same sources that broke all sorts of rules with revealing Clare Daly’s arrest. I wonder will RTE have to pay out for any GDPR penalty or will it try to share the fine with its “sources”.
It was a photo of a printout of the running order of the show naming the perp, saying **NB DO NOT RUN THIS STORY** or somesuch.
Don’t delve into the higher end office politics of RTÉ, it is even more complicated than that of CIÉ.
Not GDPR. Legally wrong; ethically amoral. Law been in existence for a bit:
https://www.rte.ie/about/en/policies-and-reports/policies-guidelines/2012/0417/317440-rte-privacy-statement/
Also of interest in this context are RTE’s own guidelines:
https://static.rasset.ie/documents/about/social-media-guidelines-2013.pdf
Respect the fact that users on site X are not our users and that they are not bound by the same Terms of Use and guidelines as we apply at RTÉ. Attempts to enforce our rules on third-party sites may lead to resentment, criticism and in some cases outright hostility to RTÉ (See note on Moderation and House Rules).
&
Tweets/Retweets
When using social media accounts (all classifications) always consider the possible implications of the content that you are about to post. Could it reflect badly on you or RTÉ? If so, don’t publish.
Surely it would all depend on who stuck it on Twitter?
If for example, someone took a picture of a computer monitor in a bank which was displaying an high profile individual’s banking records and done likewise, is that a GDPR breech?
Damn right it is.
Even if the customer was asking for it?
The annual fantasy of the Sunday Independent’s Rich List 2019 has now been published online for all.
https://richlist.independent.ie
There’s not enough salt in the world…
FG in Brexit election alert.
Basically saying FF are holding a gun to their head over the backstop. If an election happens, tactically, FF are set to gain in the polls because reneging on the backstop would be a hugely unpopular move.
LA is the best sports town in the word,with Rams headed super bowl next week,Lebron lighting up the Staples center nightly (ok injured right now)and the Dodgers coming off a great World Series performance.Fook Boston it’s the most boring town in world,full plastic paddies-oh I’m irish too,eh no your not your a dumb yank wearing green pants,and no I don’t know your great great grandfathers family.
Here’s the vision for the future of sports from the owner of Arsenal.
‘At a cost estimated at more than $5 billion, the development — its formal name is the LA Stadium & Entertainment District at Hollywood Park — includes a 70,240-seat stadium and 6,000-seat performance center under one roof that will anchor a 298-acre complex of office buildings, shops, restaurants, residential units, hotels and parks. It’s 3½ the size of Disneyland and twice as big as Vatican City’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/the-rams-5-billion-stadium-is-bigger-than-disneyland-it-might-be-perfect-for-la/2019/01/26/7c393898-20c3-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4e61a2b35e33
I think you’re on the wrong site.
Is this your first time posting ‘gerry’ or just first time using this handle,I go slow for you ok.
Interesting court case over affordable housing and NIMBY’s.
Can you imagine FG doing this-ha ha !
‘The legal action is part of a push by the governor to flex the state’s muscles over homebuilding, an issue that has long been the domain of local government. In his budget announcement this month, Newsom threatened to withhold state transportation dollars from cities and counties that reject development and proposed allocating $1.3 billion as incentive for local governments to accommodate growth and homeless services.
Although cities and counties do not build homes, local restrictions on development, such as high fees or a lack of land zoned for residential use, can prevent construction that might otherwise occur. Higher-income coastal communities, including Huntington Beach, often maintain some of the tightest development rules in the state, even as housing costs have soared over the last decade‘
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-gavin-newsom-huntington-beach-housing-lawsuit-20190125-story.html
Why are you posting about LA? Trying to show off?
Do you feel overwhelmed a lot ‘gerry’,inedaquate and like you didn’t get the manual for living.Its normal before making stupid trolling comments to actually read the link and comment on that.But given your poor grasp of the nuances around here I will give you a little help ‘gerry’.
There have been numerous examples and it’s currently estimated that thousands of new and proposed housing has been blocked by local elected representatives in Dublin.
‘Labour Senator Aodhán Ó Ríordáin is organising support for a judicial review to overturn approval granted for a 164-apartment development in Howth, north Co Dublin.‘
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/labour-senator-seeking-support-to-oppose-164-home-howth-development-1.3771113
The linked article which clearly is above you pay grade gerry in that you’d either didn’t read it or could not understated it,again those feelings of inadequacy huh,is an example of how get around this entrenched opposition.
“It is unprecedented,” said Cesar Covarrubias, executive director of the Kennedy Commission, the Orange County affordable housing group that previously sued Huntington Beach. “We’re seeing that the state is using all its resources to address the housing crisis. We need all local governments to do the same”
The link is above gerry,instead of making a complete idiot of yourself,again those feelings of less than,how about you actually read the link-duh !
Looking at the Andrew Marr show earlier and he was interviewing Simon Coveney. I’m not a FG fan but to be fair, Coveney came across as ultra professional with a clear, concise, non aggressive air. When I compare his performance to Varadkar’s various interviews it’s more and more clear that the real leader of FG should be Coveney.
+1 GiggidyGoo, he was taking no prisoners.
It’s what daddy would have wanted.
That’s the downside for Coveney.
https://t.co/zjYbwvQD7t?amp=1
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1089510688249339905?s=20
Glad that priest in Multyfarnham had the presence of mind to save that TD from commiting a further grave sin by receiving Holy Communion whilst having his support for abortion on his conscience.
I’m sure the good priest has absolved some of his fellow brothers of the cloth of the sin of buggering children. I love the smell of hypocrisy in the evening.
I don’t know and I can never know that. Nor can you.
But, even if that was the case, you’ve failed to make any case for hypocrisy. Is it just that you really, really wanted to get that image out there?
Done with the Sunday papers. Can you nip down to SPAR after Duncing With The Stars and Monday’s up early?
.
Ta,
Here’s the deal..
I’m not telling youss..
Yes, we must deploy the army immediately, to Killarney National Park, the ‘rhododendron situation’ is the real crisis of the week. Fair play to the Healy-R brothers for keeping things in perspective ;-)
https://twitter.com/ConorMcMorrow/status/834106614114299905?s=20
Q & A at Sundance with the two featured in the Michael Jackson doc. They sound sincere to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVQUCWJlJ_w
I believe them. I always thought he was innocent until now.