Oh dear.
Perhaps Ireland winning the rugby world cup isn’t such a foregone conclusion after all.
Langball Larry
Indeed.I wonder if,in hindsight,those Paddy Power adverts in Dublin now appear somewhat crass and hubristic.We do seem to get ahead of ourselves sometimes.Still,we can always MOPE for a few days.
ReproBertie
Paddy Power doesn’t speak for the people of Ireland.
Someone should have told England that the Irish guuys had already won the Grand slam and World cup of 9 teams for 2019. The arrogance of the Irish rugby circus is sickening. Hopefully they learned a little humility yesterday, but it’s doubtful.
ReproBertie
Good man Topsy. You see if you can fill the void in your life by taking joy from an English victory. Sure what’s rare is wonderful.
harry
DO NOT WRITE THEM OFF
remember its not the FAI
jusayinlike
Just saying like is Ollie Cromwell.
Ollie is hurting since I reminded him of England’s 5th place sitting in last year’s six nations. Ireland won a grand slam in that year. England are currently 5th in the world, Ireland are a point below New Zealand.
The victory for England was badly needed as they had showed up poorly in autumn, Ireland beat the all blacks.
Eddies job was on the line, Joe’s isn’t.
When all the dust has settled, England are still 5th, Ireland are still on New Zealand’ back and England get stuck with a rubbish coach like Eddie Jones.
Ollie get a life, hope your happy at the journal.
Chucky R. Law
Um, England are now 3rd, just over a point behind Ireland, who are now more than 3 points behind New Zealand.
jusayinlike
Hi Ollie, how’s ballbriggan?
You’re actually incorrect, England are currently 4th. Barely a point above South Africa. They got half a point for beating Ireland.
Toddle off back to the journal.
Otis Blue
In fairness, he wasn’t wrong
“Minister for Health, Mr. Leo Varadkar T.D. said: “Today is an important milestone on the road to building our long-awaited world-class new National Children’s Hospital. The plans are spectacular and the design is iconic. It will be the largest single investment in healthcare in Ireland ever”
I was up north a few years ago in a very flash newly built medical centre. This was at the same time as they were attempting to close Newry’s A&E. I made a comment that there was no shortage of money around here and was sharply told that it came from a different budget. They never closed Newry A & E btw, because you pee off Newry people at your peril.
You will hear that word a lot in health circles, budget. That the nurse’s wages come from a different budget to the hospital build. It is just accountancy speak of course because if there was an outbreak of a serious disease, the money would be found double quick.
Simon Harris’s case against the nurses is seriously weakened by this fiasco because as the nuns proved, a well run old hospital is way better than a badly managed new one. If they can’t get the build right, what hope is there of the treatment?
Cian
There are different budgets.
A hospital is a one-off. A salary rise is every year.
If the children’s hospital is, say, 900m over budget this is the same as the nurses pay rise for three years only.
SOQ
The only ‘budget’ that counts is how much the public health service gets per year because that is what we the taxpayers give it.
realPolithicks
Where would we be without cian to explain the obvious to us.
Eoin
“Plan to evacuate the Queen after a no-deal Brexit
Whitehall has drawn up secret plans to evacuate the Queen in the event of riots following a no-deal Brexit”
Reports the Sunday Times front page UK today.
There’s a definite whiff of editorialising amongst the normally pro-Brexit media to prepare the ground for an extension to Article 50.
harry
Its pretty laughable
Daisy Chainsaw
Airlift her to her ancestral home in Germany?
Eoin
Mel Gibson’s film about the first Oxford dictionary “The Professor and the Madman” received a tax break of €5,618,000 in Ireland under our section 481 scheme. This was revealed in court documents in a US court case and is reported in the Sunday Times. Mel claims the producers have “scammed” the Irish tax system.
Debbie McCann from the Mail on Sunday again with the front page crime story lead based on confidential information about an ongoing criminal investigation. Where did the confidential information come from? Was it more reliable than the confidential (and false) information which Debbie acted on in respect of Sgt McCabe? Why is Debbie McCann still working as a journalist? Isn’t the trust of your readership a basic requirement for a career in journalism?
Remember Debbie’s outing in the Charleton tribunal last year? Pages 267-275 should refresh your memory about Debbie McCann and her employer and their attitudes to the truth and public duty.
Why is she still working as a journalist you ask. Is it simply because she is working for a journalistic rag, one which I have never bought.
Giggidygoo
+1
realPolithicks
She “writes” for the mail on sunday, does that actually qualify as journalism?
Gabby
The Queen is welcome to Inishvickillane if Brexit gets rough.
Eoin
Must be frosty relations today between INM and its 50% partner in the Irish Daily Star, the oddly-named Reach.
The English Daily Star had the huge scoop yesterday about Conor McGregor and the baby. While the Irish Daily Star is a 50:50 venture between INM:Reach, the English Star is 100% owned by Reach and had the full story yesterday, all the sordid (alleged) details, all the photographs.
That English Star story yesterday has totally scooped the front page of the Sunday World, 100% owned by INM.
You won’t find a better story than this Conor McGregor one for the SW’s target audience, but the SW’s readers will have seen the story online yesterday at the very least. So why buy the SW today for yesterday’s news which is online at the Star here.
There may, perhaps, be another reason for the reluctance of Irish papers to cover that story in such detail.
Johnny
The NTMA -National Tresaury Management Agency-manages your money and the states.Its employees in order to attract top flight talent are outside the pay scales of govt / civil servants.
NAMA was a 70 billion asset manager,at a 30 Billion loan price that’s 15 times the ‘total’ costs of the new hospital,history will not judge it kindly.
The Ireland Strategic Investment Fund (ISIF), managed by the National Treasury Management Agency (NTMA),has 8 Billion to manage or 4 hospitals.
Last year,if all the employees had stayed home they would have made more money,by doing nothing except holding Irish govt paper.
-the Fund generated an investment return of minus 1.1% during 2018-that’s just unacceptable.
This is a much,much bigger waste of money than the hospital,it should be front page news.
On Friday after releasing awful results again ,it announced yet another “New” strategy,here is a novel idea,hire some new people pay them based on performance,this ‘model’ is not working.
Cian-your comparing ‘index’s’ to a supposedly actively managed,targeted fund staffed by the best,who are all above and off govt pay scales.
It’s like comparing the revolution in cloud computing and data management to a filing cabinet :)
Wrong comp. Cian.
Giggidygoo
Cian – your attempts at diversion over the past few days have hit a new low. I sincerely hope that you don’t get paid for that kind of comment – if so, I think you may go onto a job website quickly.
Ron
I don’t understand Cians specific kind of stupid either, but I do admire his total commitment to it!
Emmerdale
I hope this where we start to see Mcgregor completely unravel.It’s just a matter of time.
johnny
Tom Costello,who just resigned from the hospital development board is a gentleman and a man of the highest integrity.He worked on some the biggest and best development projects in Ireland,for some the toughest irish developers.He was instrumental in getting Dundrum Shopping Center built for Joe O’Reilly,Croke Park,Spenser dock, Aviva etc.
Tom is one the good guys and his firm Sisk is one the best Irish companies,Tom’s resignation is a big loss to this project, for the record I 100%- whole heartily support building a new children’s hospital.I don’t think/believe there is a better deployment of capital, it should have been used a as stimulus during the recession.
There should be a few questions as to why Dennis O’Brien’s right hand man from a private hospital is on the board-he’s privy to way too much ‘insider’ info and is a competitor.
-Mr Fitzgerald is the Deputy CEO of the Beacon Hospital-
He is paid to undermine public health,I’d read INM’s coverage of this with caution-the largest shareholder has what we call ‘skin in the game’.
-here’s Fitzgerld’s ‘view’ on the future of Irish health care !
“He added that there was a huge opportunity for delays in elective surgeries and other procedures to be removed, but doing so needed concerted co-operation between both sides.
“Up to now, public hospitals tender for private clinics once their waiting times go over a certain level. That means that while public hospitals use the likes of the Beacon regularly, the system is informal and ad hoc in nature.
“The reality is The Beacon does collaborate with the public sector and provides capacity to public patients on waiting lists,” said Fitzgerald.
“It is an ad-hoc system and it would be much more effective if a long-term plan could be put in place. Public hospitals can put in place framework agreements with private sector hospitals which can last up to 12 months. That would give both sides much more flexibility and allow them to make plans accordingly,” he said.”
Another Conflict of Interest not being recorded into the CoI register., Much like Lesley’s.
If it’s of any interest at this stage of the project, this was always going to breach 2 billion.
( I’ll say 2,65 b. For now.)
That site, and managing the site works alone, can be held responsible for 1 billion.
Shur’ who cares really
Just to say folks
There is no point talking up this as the most advanced greatest whatever yer having yerselves Children’s Hospital in the world, unless you are assured of its biggest asset …
People
And there is no way, in any economic environment, the HSE will ever achieve the manpower compliment and the required expertise needed, nor top flight specialists and researchers to attract €€€s
This hospital will bankrupt the HSE.
And it is all on Fine Gael’s state
They own every bit of it
SOQ
I never worked for the HSE once but did work with them. Two national recruitment campaigns via an agency. All applications were by email which meant a percentage was not received as the service provider was over whelmed.
The HSE insisted that the applications, some over twenty pages long (certificates etc), were printed out and transferred in batches by taxi half way across the country. I asked the owner of the agency why he did not just suggest a soft copy transfer and he said that printing is where they made their money.
I don’t care about the politics between the HSE and unions but a five grand SharePoint site with a few tags and a bit of a workflow would have ensured all applicants knew it was received AND there was a digital trace if anything got lost.
You don’t need two grand a day consultants to tell us what is common sense. Otherwise we will be digging up May from the Shankill Road in Belfast to tell us what time it is.
Well
Recruitment practices and conditions might be a blocker to attracting quality candidates
IMO that’s not why this hospital will never get near the promises of Leo and the band
The HSE can’t even manage the needs for the hospitals and service providers they already have
You wait until they and otheir State / Semi State employers
Teachers, Guards, Revenue etc
Even Unions
Have to introduce a Dublin levy for vacancies in Dublin locations
Watch what happens then ….
SOQ
A white elephant so, you are probably right.
Catherine costelloe
Thank you…..knew whatchaicallhim would have his paws in there somehow!
Eoin
Ah yes, the story of the Beacon Hospital, the 200-bed 250,000 sq ft state-of-the-art hospital which Denis acquired when he paid €40m to Ulster Bank for €100m of outstanding loans. Can’t wait for that story to be told one day.
Meanwhile, the 450-bed 1,000,000 sq ft National Childrens Hospital will cost us, what?, €1.5 billion?
Oh dear.
Perhaps Ireland winning the rugby world cup isn’t such a foregone conclusion after all.
Indeed.I wonder if,in hindsight,those Paddy Power adverts in Dublin now appear somewhat crass and hubristic.We do seem to get ahead of ourselves sometimes.Still,we can always MOPE for a few days.
Paddy Power doesn’t speak for the people of Ireland.
They were crass from the get-go…
You may get a giggle from this then :)
https://twitter.com/lidl_ireland/status/1091777004771381248?s=19
:)
Someone should have told England that the Irish guuys had already won the Grand slam and World cup of 9 teams for 2019. The arrogance of the Irish rugby circus is sickening. Hopefully they learned a little humility yesterday, but it’s doubtful.
Good man Topsy. You see if you can fill the void in your life by taking joy from an English victory. Sure what’s rare is wonderful.
DO NOT WRITE THEM OFF
remember its not the FAI
Just saying like is Ollie Cromwell.
Ollie is hurting since I reminded him of England’s 5th place sitting in last year’s six nations. Ireland won a grand slam in that year. England are currently 5th in the world, Ireland are a point below New Zealand.
The victory for England was badly needed as they had showed up poorly in autumn, Ireland beat the all blacks.
Eddies job was on the line, Joe’s isn’t.
When all the dust has settled, England are still 5th, Ireland are still on New Zealand’ back and England get stuck with a rubbish coach like Eddie Jones.
Ollie get a life, hope your happy at the journal.
Um, England are now 3rd, just over a point behind Ireland, who are now more than 3 points behind New Zealand.
Hi Ollie, how’s ballbriggan?
You’re actually incorrect, England are currently 4th. Barely a point above South Africa. They got half a point for beating Ireland.
Toddle off back to the journal.
In fairness, he wasn’t wrong
“Minister for Health, Mr. Leo Varadkar T.D. said: “Today is an important milestone on the road to building our long-awaited world-class new National Children’s Hospital. The plans are spectacular and the design is iconic. It will be the largest single investment in healthcare in Ireland ever”
http://www.newchildrenshospital.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Planning-Submission-PR-for-Distribution-120815.doc
I was up north a few years ago in a very flash newly built medical centre. This was at the same time as they were attempting to close Newry’s A&E. I made a comment that there was no shortage of money around here and was sharply told that it came from a different budget. They never closed Newry A & E btw, because you pee off Newry people at your peril.
You will hear that word a lot in health circles, budget. That the nurse’s wages come from a different budget to the hospital build. It is just accountancy speak of course because if there was an outbreak of a serious disease, the money would be found double quick.
Simon Harris’s case against the nurses is seriously weakened by this fiasco because as the nuns proved, a well run old hospital is way better than a badly managed new one. If they can’t get the build right, what hope is there of the treatment?
There are different budgets.
A hospital is a one-off. A salary rise is every year.
If the children’s hospital is, say, 900m over budget this is the same as the nurses pay rise for three years only.
The only ‘budget’ that counts is how much the public health service gets per year because that is what we the taxpayers give it.
Where would we be without cian to explain the obvious to us.
“Plan to evacuate the Queen after a no-deal Brexit
Whitehall has drawn up secret plans to evacuate the Queen in the event of riots following a no-deal Brexit”
Reports the Sunday Times front page UK today.
There’s a definite whiff of editorialising amongst the normally pro-Brexit media to prepare the ground for an extension to Article 50.
Its pretty laughable
Airlift her to her ancestral home in Germany?
Mel Gibson’s film about the first Oxford dictionary “The Professor and the Madman” received a tax break of €5,618,000 in Ireland under our section 481 scheme. This was revealed in court documents in a US court case and is reported in the Sunday Times. Mel claims the producers have “scammed” the Irish tax system.
https://variety.com/2018/biz/news/mel-gibson-ireland-film-scam-1202939232/
Aye, fair dues to Mel on that one!
Debbie McCann from the Mail on Sunday again with the front page crime story lead based on confidential information about an ongoing criminal investigation. Where did the confidential information come from? Was it more reliable than the confidential (and false) information which Debbie acted on in respect of Sgt McCabe? Why is Debbie McCann still working as a journalist? Isn’t the trust of your readership a basic requirement for a career in journalism?
Remember Debbie’s outing in the Charleton tribunal last year? Pages 267-275 should refresh your memory about Debbie McCann and her employer and their attitudes to the truth and public duty.
http://www.disclosuretribunal.ie/en/DIS/Pages/Third_Interim_Report
Why is she still working as a journalist you ask. Is it simply because she is working for a journalistic rag, one which I have never bought.
+1
She “writes” for the mail on sunday, does that actually qualify as journalism?
The Queen is welcome to Inishvickillane if Brexit gets rough.
Must be frosty relations today between INM and its 50% partner in the Irish Daily Star, the oddly-named Reach.
The English Daily Star had the huge scoop yesterday about Conor McGregor and the baby. While the Irish Daily Star is a 50:50 venture between INM:Reach, the English Star is 100% owned by Reach and had the full story yesterday, all the sordid (alleged) details, all the photographs.
That English Star story yesterday has totally scooped the front page of the Sunday World, 100% owned by INM.
You won’t find a better story than this Conor McGregor one for the SW’s target audience, but the SW’s readers will have seen the story online yesterday at the very least. So why buy the SW today for yesterday’s news which is online at the Star here.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/757270/conor-mcgregor-daughter-claims-dna-test-demand-terri-murray-clodagh
Frosty.
There may, perhaps, be another reason for the reluctance of Irish papers to cover that story in such detail.
The NTMA -National Tresaury Management Agency-manages your money and the states.Its employees in order to attract top flight talent are outside the pay scales of govt / civil servants.
NAMA was a 70 billion asset manager,at a 30 Billion loan price that’s 15 times the ‘total’ costs of the new hospital,history will not judge it kindly.
The Ireland Strategic Investment Fund (ISIF), managed by the National Treasury Management Agency (NTMA),has 8 Billion to manage or 4 hospitals.
Last year,if all the employees had stayed home they would have made more money,by doing nothing except holding Irish govt paper.
-the Fund generated an investment return of minus 1.1% during 2018-that’s just unacceptable.
This is a much,much bigger waste of money than the hospital,it should be front page news.
On Friday after releasing awful results again ,it announced yet another “New” strategy,here is a novel idea,hire some new people pay them based on performance,this ‘model’ is not working.
https://isif.ie/news/press-releases/ireland-strategic-investment-fund-announces-new-investment-strategy-to-focus-on-5-key-priority-themes-and-publishes-update-on-2018-investment-performance
“2018 was a record-setting year for stocks, but it’s one investors would rather forget.
The Dow fell 5.6%. The S&P 500 was down 6.2% and the Nasdaq fell 4%”
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/31/investing/dow-stock-market-today/index.html
Cian-your comparing ‘index’s’ to a supposedly actively managed,targeted fund staffed by the best,who are all above and off govt pay scales.
It’s like comparing the revolution in cloud computing and data management to a filing cabinet :)
Wrong comp. Cian.
Cian – your attempts at diversion over the past few days have hit a new low. I sincerely hope that you don’t get paid for that kind of comment – if so, I think you may go onto a job website quickly.
I don’t understand Cians specific kind of stupid either, but I do admire his total commitment to it!
I hope this where we start to see Mcgregor completely unravel.It’s just a matter of time.
Tom Costello,who just resigned from the hospital development board is a gentleman and a man of the highest integrity.He worked on some the biggest and best development projects in Ireland,for some the toughest irish developers.He was instrumental in getting Dundrum Shopping Center built for Joe O’Reilly,Croke Park,Spenser dock, Aviva etc.
Tom is one the good guys and his firm Sisk is one the best Irish companies,Tom’s resignation is a big loss to this project, for the record I 100%- whole heartily support building a new children’s hospital.I don’t think/believe there is a better deployment of capital, it should have been used a as stimulus during the recession.
There should be a few questions as to why Dennis O’Brien’s right hand man from a private hospital is on the board-he’s privy to way too much ‘insider’ info and is a competitor.
-Mr Fitzgerald is the Deputy CEO of the Beacon Hospital-
He is paid to undermine public health,I’d read INM’s coverage of this with caution-the largest shareholder has what we call ‘skin in the game’.
-here’s Fitzgerld’s ‘view’ on the future of Irish health care !
“He added that there was a huge opportunity for delays in elective surgeries and other procedures to be removed, but doing so needed concerted co-operation between both sides.
“Up to now, public hospitals tender for private clinics once their waiting times go over a certain level. That means that while public hospitals use the likes of the Beacon regularly, the system is informal and ad hoc in nature.
“The reality is The Beacon does collaborate with the public sector and provides capacity to public patients on waiting lists,” said Fitzgerald.
“It is an ad-hoc system and it would be much more effective if a long-term plan could be put in place. Public hospitals can put in place framework agreements with private sector hospitals which can last up to 12 months. That would give both sides much more flexibility and allow them to make plans accordingly,” he said.”
https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/beacon-unveils-32m-investment-as-deputy-ceo-calls-for-publicprivate-deals-34300914.html
The wrong guy resigned,all best Tom.
Yep Johnny
Another Conflict of Interest not being recorded into the CoI register., Much like Lesley’s.
If it’s of any interest at this stage of the project, this was always going to breach 2 billion.
( I’ll say 2,65 b. For now.)
That site, and managing the site works alone, can be held responsible for 1 billion.
Shur’ who cares really
Just to say folks
There is no point talking up this as the most advanced greatest whatever yer having yerselves Children’s Hospital in the world, unless you are assured of its biggest asset …
People
And there is no way, in any economic environment, the HSE will ever achieve the manpower compliment and the required expertise needed, nor top flight specialists and researchers to attract €€€s
This hospital will bankrupt the HSE.
And it is all on Fine Gael’s state
They own every bit of it
I never worked for the HSE once but did work with them. Two national recruitment campaigns via an agency. All applications were by email which meant a percentage was not received as the service provider was over whelmed.
The HSE insisted that the applications, some over twenty pages long (certificates etc), were printed out and transferred in batches by taxi half way across the country. I asked the owner of the agency why he did not just suggest a soft copy transfer and he said that printing is where they made their money.
I don’t care about the politics between the HSE and unions but a five grand SharePoint site with a few tags and a bit of a workflow would have ensured all applicants knew it was received AND there was a digital trace if anything got lost.
You don’t need two grand a day consultants to tell us what is common sense. Otherwise we will be digging up May from the Shankill Road in Belfast to tell us what time it is.
Well
Recruitment practices and conditions might be a blocker to attracting quality candidates
IMO that’s not why this hospital will never get near the promises of Leo and the band
The HSE can’t even manage the needs for the hospitals and service providers they already have
You wait until they and otheir State / Semi State employers
Teachers, Guards, Revenue etc
Even Unions
Have to introduce a Dublin levy for vacancies in Dublin locations
Watch what happens then ….
A white elephant so, you are probably right.
Thank you…..knew whatchaicallhim would have his paws in there somehow!
Ah yes, the story of the Beacon Hospital, the 200-bed 250,000 sq ft state-of-the-art hospital which Denis acquired when he paid €40m to Ulster Bank for €100m of outstanding loans. Can’t wait for that story to be told one day.
Meanwhile, the 450-bed 1,000,000 sq ft National Childrens Hospital will cost us, what?, €1.5 billion?
Ah, the Sunday mop up has started already.
David must have stopped by for a visit.
Anyway
Before the nighty nights and tomorrows papers
Lemme have this
rising star who yearns for normality
Now that tripe competes pretty well with some’ah the stuff around here we’re supposed to believe
Nighty night Vanilly
Where’s around here? What are we supposed to believe Vanilly? Shur aren’t you part of ’round here?
Did they put your name up in the list of contributors yet, or what’s wrong with you now? Did an investment go sour maybe?
Cmere, ever feel guilty for being a bit of a b*tch? How’d you overcome it Vanilly?