41 thoughts on “De Thursday Papers

    1. topsy

      Why is a story of such little or in fact no sporting consequence getting coverage on the front page of The Times.

      1. Spaghetti Hoop

        I wonder that too. Why isn’t it at the back? Why the sports coverage when there is SO much current affairs going on? Why did I have to listen to 12 minutes of a sports bulletin this morning on prime-time radio dribbled out agonisingly by Des-pause-Cahill (7 of which was on English soccer)? Why? WHY?!

    1. Werty

      NYT confirming Trump’s statements about the worst of the migration emergency – the most vulnerable in the hands of the most ruthless. This one article alone makes a powerful case for “the Wall” to stop this human trafficking.

      Meanwhile our own administration are ramping up their propaganda agenda to give us their excuses for Ireland to get stuck into this misery machine. Human trafficking – akin to slavery – is one of the world’s most profitable business. No one in their right mind would want the Irish Nation to have any part of this. Anybody promoting this business agenda – usually through a fake refugee crisis – is complicit in evil.

  1. Giggidygoo

    The FG grassroots ain’t happy with the glory, posh, drop-out threesome that has been foisted upon them by their own ‘representatives’. Next General Election will see those FG TDs who voted against Coveney getting a good old FG Grassroots roasting.
    Repayment in kind as they say. ‘You didn’t support us in our wishes for leader of the party, and you expect us to rally around you to canvass and vote for you – we’ll tough!’
    New leader of FG after next general election.

    1. Frilly Keane

      Grassroot Blueshurts were never happy with the Leo win

      Not so much with Leo
      More that their votes were worth so little within the party they
      Pay subs to
      Canvas for
      Vote for
      Fundraise for

      Why do you think Leo is all about the Photo Op and going around with a gang

      Ya never see him out and about amongst the old style faithful at the Marts n’ the like

      1. Junkface

        Having seen his low popularity numbers this morning, I’m sure Leo Varadkar will be seen sock shopping among the proles later on or something.

      2. The Old Boy

        Enda Kenny seemed at his happiest when he was kissing mothers and shaking hands with infants. He was in his element in a pair of wellies at the ploughing or when someone handed him a hurl and sliotar.

        Varadkar’s android-like soft skills make every exchange he has with the public and party faithful alike excruciating to watch. I imagine he detests them and his PR people reckon the coverage they get does him more harm than good.

  2. eoin

    20 hours since Catherine Murphy asked in the Dail how many homes Dublin City Council built in 2018. The figures from the Dept of Housing say 137 (part of the 2,022 the Dept say were built nationally by all local authorities in 2018). Catherine Murphy thinks the figure for Dublin City Council is only 21. Leo says the information is already published (it’s not). Surely, by now, our fearless media has contacted the Dept of Housing for clarification? If they have, I can’t find it in today’s papers and surely it’s newsworthy if Dublin City Council actually built 80% fewer homes in 2018 than the galoot in the Dept of Housing claimed a fortnight ago.

    1. Mickey Twopints

      I have a tip for Eoghan and the lads. Give McCarthy & Stone across the water a call to ask if they can help out with building a few houses. Story from yesterday about a digger driver who went on the rampage and destroyed five newly-built houses – the total loss (including clearing the five sites and rebuilding, and presumably all of the incidental costs) amounted to £1M. These are high spec private developments in Hertfordshire by the way.

      1. eoin

        Hee, very drole.

        Niall should repost one of Indexed’s cartesian graphs, depicting art that you can still enjoy, showing on the X-axis, the merit of an artist’s work and the Y-axis, the depravity of the artist.

        Bowie would probably be high X, low Y.
        Glitter low X, high Y
        Polanski, Jackson?

        1. eoin

          “repost”? I don’t think they’ve done such a graph. perhaps I should explain what cartesian graph was I referring to so we can clear this whole thing up once and for all.

          1. eoin

            My original (unedited) comment above was something like “Maybe Bodger can knock up one of his famous cartesian graphs depicting….” Someone at the BS end edited that to what it now says about about “reposting”. To the best of my knowledge there has never been such a graph which is why I was suggesting Bodger might wish to create it.

            Ah – but now I see what I did.

            Bodger doesn’t do Cartesian graphs so when I wrote ‘one of his famous cartesian graphs’, I accidentally gave the impression that I thought the actual Cartesian graphs made by ‘Indexed’ and regularly reposted on Broadsheet by Niall Murphy were somehow created by Bodger. Which would have been mad altogether.

    1. Junkface

      I felt unwell after watching the Leaving Neverland doc. It was so detailed and shocking, I had no idea that he was such a child predator, I mean to the level exposed in the doc. Most people who were children of the 80’s had suspected some strange stuff going on with kids by the mid or late 90’s but never to that extent! The then 7 year old (Wade), what happened to him, was monstrous. The other boy was 10 or 11.
      So Michael Jackson started this behaviour in 1985? I wonder will it come out that it started a lot earlier than this? Also, MJ had so much surgery and skin bleaching to look more white. Was he trying to become a white American boy, like the children he preyed upon? How come he never paid any attention to black children in the same way? None of his victims were black, that we know of.

      1. Nigel

        I distinctly remember him talking about sleeping with kids in his bed and thinking that couldn’t possibly be okay, but the rest of the world seemed okay with it, ignoring anyone who objected, he was just odd and eccentric and even innocent, a man-child able to reshape the world around him into an idealised playschool, at the same time able to function as a savvy businessman in a cut-throat business and as a highly accomplished professional performer responsible for huge, complex and highly technical shows.

  3. eoin

    The Guardian has an interesting article on its own research on the rise of populism. There’s a glaring gap for a populist leader in Ireland. Surely it’s not Peter Casey. Mind you, in the USA, many people thought in 2014-2015 it couldn’t have been Donald Trump

    “It also reveals how politicians across the globe have gradually adopted more populist arguments, framing politics as a Manichean [Iranian religion whose USP is the battle between good and evil] battle between the will of ordinary people and corrupt, self-serving elites.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2019/mar/06/revealed-the-rise-and-rise-of-populist-rhetoric

    1. Rob_G

      In descending order:

      Rural independents (Mattie McG, Healy Raes)
      Sinn Féin
      Solidarity
      SocDems
      FF
      FG

      – Ireland already has its quota of populist politicians, thank you very much.

    2. Frilly Keane

      Did me own take on Populism 2.0
      There a while back

      And I’m not convinced people really give ah’ ploppy pumpkin pie

      As long as the lads, their pals and their special interests aren’t put out
      Or comprised
      It’s as you were

  4. Grace

    Yikes Angelina Jolie is very thin there in that picture on the Daily Telegraph. She does not look well, it must be said

    1. millie st murderlark

      True. One can only hope she’s taking care of herself or that she has someone is looking out for her, and not because it’s their job.

  5. Johnny

    Digicel Deathwatch:
    I have one job,Digicel and haven’t been overly engaged with the “News” on it lately,the make it almost impossible to find accurate update information.Anyway,will try get some info over next few days.
    Irish papers covered this-it’s just more debt if he can raise it,they need equity not debt.

    ‘Digicel Holdings (Bermuda) Limited (“Holdings”) and Digicel International Finance Limited (“DIFL” and, together with Holdings, the “Issuers”) today announced their intention to launch a private placement of US$550 million aggregate principal amount of senior secured notes (the “Notes”). Holdings, a subsidiary of Digicel Limited, is incorporated under the laws of Bermuda. DIFL, Holdings’ only direct subsidiary, is incorporated under the laws of St. Lucia.’

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/digicel-holdings-bermuda-limited-and-digicel-international-finance-limited-announce-private-placement-of-senior-secured-notes-300806986.html

    1. eoin

      Thanks Johnny, “private placement”? That sounds like a loan from DOB to Digicel, maybe to try to buy back existing bonds, they fell by record amounts two consecutive days last week after it emerged Digicel only has $96m in cash left and it probably has $200m of short term borrowings in addition to the nearly $7 billion of bonds. Bond prices recovered slightly this week after the announcement of the $550m “private placement”

      No interest rate quoted for the new bonds? Isn’t that important so that credit ratings agencies can judge what Digicel’s interest bill is.

      “Deathwatch” is right.

      1. Johnny

        The rate is absolutely critical but the “capital stack” is what I’m looking for.In so much as where does this new debt “rank”.I don’t think/believe he has 500 million in cash to do this-more like “debtor in possession” financing.But given the scrunity its fair assume this is a done deal,failure here would be irreparable.
        But will try track down a prospectus,interestingly these debt instruments not for sale in US.

        1. Frilly Keane

          Even if he had 500 mill
          Why would he pump it into DigiSell

          A promise in the minutes maybe

  6. Johnny

    No wonder Ross was so popular with Finn Gael,judgement here.

    https://games-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/619ea378-903f-498d-afdc-e115b7b91bc8/note/957fd01e-cc6b-4ce0-a789-6fde99328661.pdf

    Background:Ross ‘saved’ Bank of Ireland by asset stripping it for Finn Gael.

    ‘Democrats hope to question Ross on efforts to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, a controversial move that has prompted legal challenges. Advocates have alleged a racist and discriminatory motivation for including the question‘

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-seeks-delay-high-profile/story?id=61490799

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