Why should it matter that a for profit company like the Canadian Pensions owned Irish lottery keeps unclaimed cash? Once they’re fulfilling the terms of their contract that Labour’s Brendan Howlin sold out to them, then why should they give extra money away? Did some golf courses not get grants, or something?
rotide
Jaysus lads, I’m not right after that episode. Might have been the best thing I’ve ever seen on any screen.
deluded
It must have been: the better half was oohing and ahhing and holymotherofgodding before also declaring it the best thing ever. (Better than Star Trek TNG, in fact, but I think they were just over excited and will retract that today).
Janet, I ate my avatar
what are you both on about ?
Janet, I ate my avatar
ohhhh GOT it, sorry I clearly live under a rock
Brother Barnabas
???
Janet, I ate my avatar
I have been told its Game of Thrones?
Brother Barnabas
ah right… have never had so much as a glimpse of it
GiggidyGoo
Looking at another episode of Celebrity Juice from your box set then?
millie st murderlark
I don’t think I moved a muscle for 90 minutes except to screech at the screen like a woman possessed. Unreal.
dav
anyone lese find the lighting a bit poor? Certain scenes required a lot of squinting
millie st murderlark
Yup. Plans for a rewatch in a pitch black room later to see if I can figure out who died without resorting to google.
But d’ya know lads
I was more intimidated and overwhelmed by that last scene in the Battle of the Bastards
With the Lord Commander, well that’s what he was then
And the bodies
I was seriously more haunted by that
Last night there was a lot of I was right ‘s
Marco’ll know what that means
But still
Fantastic telly
And seriously lads
Get a hould of the music for yerselves
Gimli hah!
A proper ice cube
Melted like a sugar cube
Reminds me of a particular buck around here
In all fairness like
f_lawless
Reading a couple of interesting articles here about the current “Extinction Rebellion ” and “We Don’t Have Time” environmentalist movements.They contend that really those movements have been carefully fostered by those within the elite class as a part of a larger social engineering plan to cynically co-opt and exploit the general public’s desire for real action to meaningfully address the crisis of climate change. It”s to manage public frustration and engineer a muted response to the crisis – that doesn’t challenge the existing power structures of the elite class – but is actually a way of inventing new ‘green’ markets to profit from, tapping into hitherto unavailable pension funds and rebooting the stagnating capitalist global economy for a while longer.
Quote: https://timhayward.wordpress.com/2019/04/29/trees-dont-grow-on-money-or-why-you-dont-get-to-rebel-against-extinction/
“Extinction Rebellion publicity material says that it is apolitical. Yet there is nothing apolitical about the real struggle that is required for people to seize the power currently concentrated in the hands of plutocrats. And to those who say – rightly – that ecological issues are greater than mere politics, it may be responded that this is why we cannot let it be “dealt with” by those who currently so misuse their political power.
Asking governments to enact policies that corporate and financial backers are lining up to draw massive profits from is not what the people protesting against impending ecological disaster have in mind. It needs therefore to be clear that you can’t actually protest against disaster. You need to take on those who are driving us towards it. So you need to know who they are and how they are doing it”
Why is saving our environment an evil conspiracy but deregulation and pollution is not?
We have enacted policies to penalise and defund polluters and promote and assist alternatives, the “carrot-and-stick” approach I believe it’s called.
you’re missing the contention of the articles and asking a “strawman” question. They’re saying that environmentalist movements that aren’t calling for a radical change to the power structures within our capitalist system aren’t going far enough and getting to the heart of the problem and that ultimately, this is by design – for example calls for “net zero emissions” won’t effect the change that’s really needed to reduce emissions – corporatons will just pay more more towards the “carbon offset” industry
Verbatim
Thanks for those interesting and enlightening articles.
deluded
When the Green Party, for instance, tried to promote radical policies they were largely ignored or downright rejected.
Then on the other side we have conservatives claiming feminism, socialism and environmentalism as fundamental threats to civilisation.
How does one get ones noblest aspirations roundly adopted?
Nigel
This kind of thing is inevitable, I suppose. We had jusaynlike on a month ago or so accusing Greta Thurnberg’s parents of being in the pocket of the farmers or something. ‘Carefully fostered’ is the more finger-wavey respectably intellectual end of it. The proof that Extinction Rebellion was concocted by corporations and politicians is that corporations and politicians are maneuvering to co-opt it, as if that isn’t what they do with everything. Oh, and theyre not calling for the complete overthrow of capitalism. In the same way Trump is a welcome catastrophe to shake the current world order, why not welcome climate change as an agent of the overthrow of the capitaist system that caused climate change? Some people will get wet, but they were being crushed by capitalism anyway.
Nigel
‘Carefully fostered’ eh? Wow. Huge if true.
SOQ
I wonder if what happened in Spain is what is going to happen in Britain? The far right has splintered the conservatives and the socialists have gained a lot of ground. The difference being the sharp focus on Brexit and that could make the shift even more extreme.
Everyone talks about populism but the real change could be a major swing towards the left in the EU. They are a solid block and will have strength in numbers. What effect that would have on EU policies remains to be seen.
eoin
Isn’t a similar result expected in the UK, with Labour and the Brexit party expected to make huge gains at the European elections at the end of next months, and Labour expected to trash the Tories in the English local elections on Thursday this week?
Concerned
It really makes me so mad that the Irish Times used a giant photo of the rape victim rather than the rapist. She took the brave decision to wave her anonymity so that her father could be named, shamed and identified as a potential threat to children in the future. Not so that she would be pictured and her image as a victim used. There should be a code of honor amongst journalists that they don’t use the victims photo but the rapists in these cases.
Verbatim
Totally agree with you there except to say that she is no longer a victim but a very brave woman.
eoin
Anyone confused about the reporting today of the 36 men caught trying to buy sex last weekend?
Irish Times and Indo both report the men were “stopped and questioned” and a file was then sent by Gardai to the Director for Public Prosecutions for a prosecution decision.
Why weren’t the 36 men *arrested* on suspicion of committing an offence under the 2017 Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act? Surely the Gardai would arrest the men in order to question them to get their side of the story?
In any event, it’s good news that the Gardai are finally taking the law seriously, there’s just been one conviction in the 24 months since the law was introduced, Bryan Mason (65) from Moatlands, Ratoath, Co Meath.
The law is aimed at stopping the trafficking of women for prostitution.
Not sure locking up a lonely 65 yr old will deter these gangs. The demand will always be there. The issue is the supply. Might sound crass to put it that way but knocking on the doors of some “massage parlours” on Dorset St. would go a lot further in saving and detering.
eoin
Maybe Bryan Mason is a lonely 65 year old, I don’t know him, don’t even know what he looks like because our brave media didn’t manage to get a picture of the first person convicted under the legislation introduced two years ago.
On the other hand, maybe he’s a sadistic pervert who raped a sex-trafficked girl who was being held down by gang members at the time, and the screams of the whole ordeal were recorded and played down the telephone line to the victim’s granny in Moldova later that day so as to intimidate and extort the family and victim.
As I say, I don’t know him or precisely what took place at that brothel. Maybe you do.
Catherine costelloe
In 2011 “21 guilty of soliciting uncover garda for sex acts” in Limerick resulted in fines of 470 euro. However at least 6 others had their cases remanded and a row broke out after the guilty 21 had names and addresses published — some were married, “pillars”of society. I believe the yokes that asked for remands escaped publicity. As for taking this law seriously……I don’t think so Eoin.
Cian
“The law is aimed at stopping the trafficking of women for prostitution.”
There are other laws that make it illegal to traffic people for prostitution. What this law does is push prostitution deeper into criminality and makes it less likely for a man to report a possible trafficked woman.
Reply to Cian above. He made my point but far better. Maybe that’s why you haven’t replied to him
eoin
Isn’t that a nice coincidence, the announcement this morning that INM is being sold to a Belgian/Dutch media company. The INM AGM which was arranged months ago is taking place later this morning.
INM Is the biggest press group in Ireland, publishing the Indo, Sindo, Herald, Sunday World and regional newspapers. It is 30% owned by Denis O’Brien, 15% by Dermot Desmond and an estimated 6% by Larry Goodman. As a business, it is mired in controversy with corporate watchdog inspectors whose appointment was approved by the High Court, onsite investigating allegations of hacking paid for by DOB, secret success fees on a transaction payable to DOB, an aborted deal which would have seen INM pay DOB twice the market value of Newstalk and other matters.
I wonder are there any secret success fees payable in the sale of INM to Mediahuis?
FG’s Richard Bruton will have a key role in approving the takeover deal, not that INM staff would allow themselves to be swayed one way or the other in favour of FG in the run-up to the elections at the end of next month…… Hahahahahahahahaha
No of houses firebombed? Nil
No of people shot? Nil
No of drug raids? Nil
No of CAB raids on beauty business money laundering front? Nil
No of jetskis seized by CAB as proceeds of drug dealing? Nil
ReproBertie
Maybe CAB went to raid them but after travelling just 20 miles from Dublin couldn’t find Drogheda.
deluded
€145 million for INM. Aiiight.
1 in 9 influencers give weight loss tips that actually work according to a study reported on Newstalk this morning
GiggidyGoo
And any clawback of the money (our taxes) that was given to the Indo that kept it going, therefore adding value to it.
eoin
Red faces at RTE this morning? The gentleman with the badly dyed beard on the front of the London Independent is the leader of ISIS and he’s produced a recent video. RTE had previously reported that this man was killed in US “air strikes”. RTE now appears to have removed those old exaggerated stories of the man’s demise.
That’s what happens when your news and current affairs operation is beholden to Washington.
Cian
Utter rubbish from eoin as per usual. Some headlines from RTE:
– 11 Jul 2017 — Coalition cannot confirm IS leader Baghdadi is dead – RTE
– 16 Jun 2017 — IS leader Baghdadi reportedly killed in Russian strike – RTE
– 21 Jul 2017 — Pentagon chief thinks IS leader Baghdadi is alive – RTE
eoin
When did RTE report USA air strikes had killed Al-Bagdadi (hint: it was before 2017)
Cian
What, back in 2014?
13 Nov 2014 – IS release audio of leader Baghdadi days after death rumours – RTE https://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1113/659173-islamic-state-statement/ “The Islamic State militant group has released an audio recording it claims is of its chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, days after an air strike sparked rumours he had been wounded or killed.“ (my emphasis)
It has not been confirmed whether the group’s chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed.” (my emphasis)
Cian
Like this one?
13 Nov 2014 – IS release audio of leader Baghdadi days after death rumours – RTE https://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1113/659173-islamic-state-statement/ “The Islamic State militant group has released an audio recording it claims is of its chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, days after an air strike sparked rumours he had been wounded or killed.” (my emphasis)
Rob_G
Will he reply to this one, do you think?
Will he fupp…
eoin
I feel I must commend you Cian on locating RTE reports about the *USA* airstrikes because your original comment above suggested they were Russian.
All you need do now is locate the RTE reports which I said “appear to have been removed” about this man being killed, not rumoured, ifs and maybes, but actually killed and then you can concede your comment was utter rubbish.
Bodger
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ReproBertie
Come on Cian. Find the things Eoin claims existed, without any evidence, but now don’t exist anymore!
Cian
“Come on Cian. Find the things Eoin claims existed, without any evidence, but now don’t exist anymore!”
I’ve found a link to RTE that proves beyond doubt that eoin is actually an idiot…. but they subsequently removed the link. So it doesn’t exist anymore.
Why should it matter that a for profit company like the Canadian Pensions owned Irish lottery keeps unclaimed cash? Once they’re fulfilling the terms of their contract that Labour’s Brendan Howlin sold out to them, then why should they give extra money away? Did some golf courses not get grants, or something?
Jaysus lads, I’m not right after that episode. Might have been the best thing I’ve ever seen on any screen.
It must have been: the better half was oohing and ahhing and holymotherofgodding before also declaring it the best thing ever. (Better than Star Trek TNG, in fact, but I think they were just over excited and will retract that today).
what are you both on about ?
ohhhh GOT it, sorry I clearly live under a rock
???
I have been told its Game of Thrones?
ah right… have never had so much as a glimpse of it
Looking at another episode of Celebrity Juice from your box set then?
I don’t think I moved a muscle for 90 minutes except to screech at the screen like a woman possessed. Unreal.
anyone lese find the lighting a bit poor? Certain scenes required a lot of squinting
Yup. Plans for a rewatch in a pitch black room later to see if I can figure out who died without resorting to google.
Incredible telly
And the music was extraordinary
But d’ya know lads
I was more intimidated and overwhelmed by that last scene in the Battle of the Bastards
With the Lord Commander, well that’s what he was then
And the bodies
I was seriously more haunted by that
Last night there was a lot of
I was right ‘s
Marco’ll know what that means
But still
Fantastic telly
And seriously lads
Get a hould of the music for yerselves
Gimli hah!
A proper ice cube
Melted like a sugar cube
Reminds me of a particular buck around here
In all fairness like
Reading a couple of interesting articles here about the current “Extinction Rebellion ” and “We Don’t Have Time” environmentalist movements.They contend that really those movements have been carefully fostered by those within the elite class as a part of a larger social engineering plan to cynically co-opt and exploit the general public’s desire for real action to meaningfully address the crisis of climate change. It”s to manage public frustration and engineer a muted response to the crisis – that doesn’t challenge the existing power structures of the elite class – but is actually a way of inventing new ‘green’ markets to profit from, tapping into hitherto unavailable pension funds and rebooting the stagnating capitalist global economy for a while longer.
Quote:
https://timhayward.wordpress.com/2019/04/29/trees-dont-grow-on-money-or-why-you-dont-get-to-rebel-against-extinction/
“Extinction Rebellion publicity material says that it is apolitical. Yet there is nothing apolitical about the real struggle that is required for people to seize the power currently concentrated in the hands of plutocrats. And to those who say – rightly – that ecological issues are greater than mere politics, it may be responded that this is why we cannot let it be “dealt with” by those who currently so misuse their political power.
Asking governments to enact policies that corporate and financial backers are lining up to draw massive profits from is not what the people protesting against impending ecological disaster have in mind. It needs therefore to be clear that you can’t actually protest against disaster. You need to take on those who are driving us towards it. So you need to know who they are and how they are doing it”
other post: http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2019/01/17/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-for-consent-the-political-economy-of-the-non-profit-industrial-complex/
Why is saving our environment an evil conspiracy but deregulation and pollution is not?
We have enacted policies to penalise and defund polluters and promote and assist alternatives, the “carrot-and-stick” approach I believe it’s called.
(The stick isn’t to beat you, the metaphor has evolved;
https://images.app.goo.gl/MPdnT89cvwscPFy4A)
you’re missing the contention of the articles and asking a “strawman” question. They’re saying that environmentalist movements that aren’t calling for a radical change to the power structures within our capitalist system aren’t going far enough and getting to the heart of the problem and that ultimately, this is by design – for example calls for “net zero emissions” won’t effect the change that’s really needed to reduce emissions – corporatons will just pay more more towards the “carbon offset” industry
Thanks for those interesting and enlightening articles.
When the Green Party, for instance, tried to promote radical policies they were largely ignored or downright rejected.
Then on the other side we have conservatives claiming feminism, socialism and environmentalism as fundamental threats to civilisation.
How does one get ones noblest aspirations roundly adopted?
This kind of thing is inevitable, I suppose. We had jusaynlike on a month ago or so accusing Greta Thurnberg’s parents of being in the pocket of the farmers or something. ‘Carefully fostered’ is the more finger-wavey respectably intellectual end of it. The proof that Extinction Rebellion was concocted by corporations and politicians is that corporations and politicians are maneuvering to co-opt it, as if that isn’t what they do with everything. Oh, and theyre not calling for the complete overthrow of capitalism. In the same way Trump is a welcome catastrophe to shake the current world order, why not welcome climate change as an agent of the overthrow of the capitaist system that caused climate change? Some people will get wet, but they were being crushed by capitalism anyway.
‘Carefully fostered’ eh? Wow. Huge if true.
I wonder if what happened in Spain is what is going to happen in Britain? The far right has splintered the conservatives and the socialists have gained a lot of ground. The difference being the sharp focus on Brexit and that could make the shift even more extreme.
Everyone talks about populism but the real change could be a major swing towards the left in the EU. They are a solid block and will have strength in numbers. What effect that would have on EU policies remains to be seen.
Isn’t a similar result expected in the UK, with Labour and the Brexit party expected to make huge gains at the European elections at the end of next months, and Labour expected to trash the Tories in the English local elections on Thursday this week?
It really makes me so mad that the Irish Times used a giant photo of the rape victim rather than the rapist. She took the brave decision to wave her anonymity so that her father could be named, shamed and identified as a potential threat to children in the future. Not so that she would be pictured and her image as a victim used. There should be a code of honor amongst journalists that they don’t use the victims photo but the rapists in these cases.
Totally agree with you there except to say that she is no longer a victim but a very brave woman.
Anyone confused about the reporting today of the 36 men caught trying to buy sex last weekend?
Irish Times and Indo both report the men were “stopped and questioned” and a file was then sent by Gardai to the Director for Public Prosecutions for a prosecution decision.
Why weren’t the 36 men *arrested* on suspicion of committing an offence under the 2017 Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act? Surely the Gardai would arrest the men in order to question them to get their side of the story?
In any event, it’s good news that the Gardai are finally taking the law seriously, there’s just been one conviction in the 24 months since the law was introduced, Bryan Mason (65) from Moatlands, Ratoath, Co Meath.
The law is aimed at stopping the trafficking of women for prostitution.
Not sure locking up a lonely 65 yr old will deter these gangs. The demand will always be there. The issue is the supply. Might sound crass to put it that way but knocking on the doors of some “massage parlours” on Dorset St. would go a lot further in saving and detering.
Maybe Bryan Mason is a lonely 65 year old, I don’t know him, don’t even know what he looks like because our brave media didn’t manage to get a picture of the first person convicted under the legislation introduced two years ago.
On the other hand, maybe he’s a sadistic pervert who raped a sex-trafficked girl who was being held down by gang members at the time, and the screams of the whole ordeal were recorded and played down the telephone line to the victim’s granny in Moldova later that day so as to intimidate and extort the family and victim.
As I say, I don’t know him or precisely what took place at that brothel. Maybe you do.
In 2011 “21 guilty of soliciting uncover garda for sex acts” in Limerick resulted in fines of 470 euro. However at least 6 others had their cases remanded and a row broke out after the guilty 21 had names and addresses published — some were married, “pillars”of society. I believe the yokes that asked for remands escaped publicity. As for taking this law seriously……I don’t think so Eoin.
“The law is aimed at stopping the trafficking of women for prostitution.”
There are other laws that make it illegal to traffic people for prostitution. What this law does is push prostitution deeper into criminality and makes it less likely for a man to report a possible trafficked woman.
Maybe I do? Why converse like that?
Reply to Cian above. He made my point but far better. Maybe that’s why you haven’t replied to him
Isn’t that a nice coincidence, the announcement this morning that INM is being sold to a Belgian/Dutch media company. The INM AGM which was arranged months ago is taking place later this morning.
INM Is the biggest press group in Ireland, publishing the Indo, Sindo, Herald, Sunday World and regional newspapers. It is 30% owned by Denis O’Brien, 15% by Dermot Desmond and an estimated 6% by Larry Goodman. As a business, it is mired in controversy with corporate watchdog inspectors whose appointment was approved by the High Court, onsite investigating allegations of hacking paid for by DOB, secret success fees on a transaction payable to DOB, an aborted deal which would have seen INM pay DOB twice the market value of Newstalk and other matters.
I wonder are there any secret success fees payable in the sale of INM to Mediahuis?
https://otp.investis.com/clients/uk/inmp/rns/regulatory-story.aspx?newsid=1257596&cid=29
FG’s Richard Bruton will have a key role in approving the takeover deal, not that INM staff would allow themselves to be swayed one way or the other in favour of FG in the run-up to the elections at the end of next month…… Hahahahahahahahaha
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/couple-who-own-boutique-dublin-hotel-distorted-court-results-in-media-campaign-38060422.html
This pair did indeed conduct a media campaign, it was obvious at the time. However why were the media so willing to give them a hearing and a one sided treatment of their story? They conducted a campaign but were abetted by the agenda driven media. The same media who cheer-led our last property bubble and then portraying speculators as innocent victims.
A quiet night in Ireland’s Juarez
No of houses firebombed? Nil
No of people shot? Nil
No of drug raids? Nil
No of CAB raids on beauty business money laundering front? Nil
No of jetskis seized by CAB as proceeds of drug dealing? Nil
Maybe CAB went to raid them but after travelling just 20 miles from Dublin couldn’t find Drogheda.
€145 million for INM. Aiiight.
1 in 9 influencers give weight loss tips that actually work according to a study reported on Newstalk this morning
And any clawback of the money (our taxes) that was given to the Indo that kept it going, therefore adding value to it.
Red faces at RTE this morning? The gentleman with the badly dyed beard on the front of the London Independent is the leader of ISIS and he’s produced a recent video. RTE had previously reported that this man was killed in US “air strikes”. RTE now appears to have removed those old exaggerated stories of the man’s demise.
That’s what happens when your news and current affairs operation is beholden to Washington.
Utter rubbish from eoin as per usual. Some headlines from RTE:
– 11 Jul 2017 — Coalition cannot confirm IS leader Baghdadi is dead – RTE
– 16 Jun 2017 — IS leader Baghdadi reportedly killed in Russian strike – RTE
– 21 Jul 2017 — Pentagon chief thinks IS leader Baghdadi is alive – RTE
When did RTE report USA air strikes had killed Al-Bagdadi (hint: it was before 2017)
What, back in 2014?
13 Nov 2014 – IS release audio of leader Baghdadi days after death rumours – RTE
https://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1113/659173-islamic-state-statement/
“The Islamic State militant group has released an audio recording it claims is of its chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, days after an air strike sparked rumours he had been wounded or killed.“ (my emphasis)
Or this one?
8 Nov 2014 – Airstrikes launched on IS leaders near Mosul – RTE
https://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1108/657876-airstrikes-mosul/?app=true
“Coalition forces launched airstrikes targeting Islamic State leaders near their northern Iraqi hub of Mosul.
It has not been confirmed whether the group’s chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed.” (my emphasis)
Like this one?
13 Nov 2014 – IS release audio of leader Baghdadi days after death rumours – RTE
https://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1113/659173-islamic-state-statement/
“The Islamic State militant group has released an audio recording it claims is of its chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, days after an air strike sparked rumours he had been wounded or killed.” (my emphasis)
Will he reply to this one, do you think?
Will he fupp…
I feel I must commend you Cian on locating RTE reports about the *USA* airstrikes because your original comment above suggested they were Russian.
All you need do now is locate the RTE reports which I said “appear to have been removed” about this man being killed, not rumoured, ifs and maybes, but actually killed and then you can concede your comment was utter rubbish.
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Come on Cian. Find the things Eoin claims existed, without any evidence, but now don’t exist anymore!
“Come on Cian. Find the things Eoin claims existed, without any evidence, but now don’t exist anymore!”
I’ve found a link to RTE that proves beyond doubt that eoin is actually an idiot…. but they subsequently removed the link. So it doesn’t exist anymore.
proof:
https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/0430/36453763-eoin-is-a-prize-idiot/
(if you click this link is fails… because they removed it)
Keep at it, Woodstein, you will crack the case wide open any day now.
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