58 thoughts on “De Tuesday Papers

  1. Daisy Chainsaw

    Why should it matter that a for profit company like the Canadian Pensions owned Irish lottery keeps unclaimed cash? Once they’re fulfilling the terms of their contract that Labour’s Brendan Howlin sold out to them, then why should they give extra money away? Did some golf courses not get grants, or something?

  2. rotide

    Jaysus lads, I’m not right after that episode. Might have been the best thing I’ve ever seen on any screen.

    1. deluded

      It must have been: the better half was oohing and ahhing and holymotherofgodding before also declaring it the best thing ever. (Better than Star Trek TNG, in fact, but I think they were just over excited and will retract that today).

    2. millie st murderlark

      I don’t think I moved a muscle for 90 minutes except to screech at the screen like a woman possessed. Unreal.

        1. millie st murderlark

          Yup. Plans for a rewatch in a pitch black room later to see if I can figure out who died without resorting to google.

    3. Curated by Vanessa for Frilly Keane

      Incredible telly
      And the music was extraordinary

      But d’ya know lads
      I was more intimidated and overwhelmed by that last scene in the Battle of the Bastards
      With the Lord Commander, well that’s what he was then
      And the bodies

      I was seriously more haunted by that
      Last night there was a lot of
      I was right ‘s

      Marco’ll know what that means

      But still
      Fantastic telly
      And seriously lads
      Get a hould of the music for yerselves

      Gimli hah!
      A proper ice cube
      Melted like a sugar cube
      Reminds me of a particular buck around here
      In all fairness like

  3. f_lawless

    Reading a couple of interesting articles here about the current “Extinction Rebellion ” and “We Don’t Have Time” environmentalist movements.They contend that really those movements have been carefully fostered by those within the elite class as a part of a larger social engineering plan to cynically co-opt and exploit the general public’s desire for real action to meaningfully address the crisis of climate change. It”s to manage public frustration and engineer a muted response to the crisis – that doesn’t challenge the existing power structures of the elite class – but is actually a way of inventing new ‘green’ markets to profit from, tapping into hitherto unavailable pension funds and rebooting the stagnating capitalist global economy for a while longer.
    “Extinction Rebellion publicity material says that it is apolitical. Yet there is nothing apolitical about the real struggle that is required for people to seize the power currently concentrated in the hands of plutocrats. And to those who say – rightly – that ecological issues are greater than mere politics, it may be responded that this is why we cannot let it be “dealt with” by those who currently so misuse their political power.

    Asking governments to enact policies that corporate and financial backers are lining up to draw massive profits from is not what the people protesting against impending ecological disaster have in mind. It needs therefore to be clear that you can’t actually protest against disaster. You need to take on those who are driving us towards it. So you need to know who they are and how they are doing it”

    1. deluded

      Why is saving our environment an evil conspiracy but deregulation and pollution is not?
      We have enacted policies to penalise and defund polluters and promote and assist alternatives, the “carrot-and-stick” approach I believe it’s called.

      1. f_lawless

        you’re missing the contention of the articles and asking a “strawman” question. They’re saying that environmentalist movements that aren’t calling for a radical change to the power structures within our capitalist system aren’t going far enough and getting to the heart of the problem and that ultimately, this is by design – for example calls for “net zero emissions” won’t effect the change that’s really needed to reduce emissions – corporatons will just pay more more towards the “carbon offset” industry

        1. deluded

          When the Green Party, for instance, tried to promote radical policies they were largely ignored or downright rejected.
          Then on the other side we have conservatives claiming feminism, socialism and environmentalism as fundamental threats to civilisation.
          How does one get ones noblest aspirations roundly adopted?

        2. Nigel

          This kind of thing is inevitable, I suppose. We had jusaynlike on a month ago or so accusing Greta Thurnberg’s parents of being in the pocket of the farmers or something. ‘Carefully fostered’ is the more finger-wavey respectably intellectual end of it. The proof that Extinction Rebellion was concocted by corporations and politicians is that corporations and politicians are maneuvering to co-opt it, as if that isn’t what they do with everything. Oh, and theyre not calling for the complete overthrow of capitalism. In the same way Trump is a welcome catastrophe to shake the current world order, why not welcome climate change as an agent of the overthrow of the capitaist system that caused climate change? Some people will get wet, but they were being crushed by capitalism anyway.

  4. SOQ

    I wonder if what happened in Spain is what is going to happen in Britain? The far right has splintered the conservatives and the socialists have gained a lot of ground. The difference being the sharp focus on Brexit and that could make the shift even more extreme.

    Everyone talks about populism but the real change could be a major swing towards the left in the EU. They are a solid block and will have strength in numbers. What effect that would have on EU policies remains to be seen.

    1. eoin

      Isn’t a similar result expected in the UK, with Labour and the Brexit party expected to make huge gains at the European elections at the end of next months, and Labour expected to trash the Tories in the English local elections on Thursday this week?

  5. Concerned

    It really makes me so mad that the Irish Times used a giant photo of the rape victim rather than the rapist. She took the brave decision to wave her anonymity so that her father could be named, shamed and identified as a potential threat to children in the future. Not so that she would be pictured and her image as a victim used. There should be a code of honor amongst journalists that they don’t use the victims photo but the rapists in these cases.

    1. Verbatim

      Totally agree with you there except to say that she is no longer a victim but a very brave woman.

  6. eoin

    Anyone confused about the reporting today of the 36 men caught trying to buy sex last weekend?

    Irish Times and Indo both report the men were “stopped and questioned” and a file was then sent by Gardai to the Director for Public Prosecutions for a prosecution decision.

    Why weren’t the 36 men *arrested* on suspicion of committing an offence under the 2017 Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act? Surely the Gardai would arrest the men in order to question them to get their side of the story?

    In any event, it’s good news that the Gardai are finally taking the law seriously, there’s just been one conviction in the 24 months since the law was introduced, Bryan Mason (65) from Moatlands, Ratoath, Co Meath.

    The law is aimed at stopping the trafficking of women for prostitution.

    1. Yep

      Not sure locking up a lonely 65 yr old will deter these gangs. The demand will always be there. The issue is the supply. Might sound crass to put it that way but knocking on the doors of some “massage parlours” on Dorset St. would go a lot further in saving and detering.

      1. eoin

        Maybe Bryan Mason is a lonely 65 year old, I don’t know him, don’t even know what he looks like because our brave media didn’t manage to get a picture of the first person convicted under the legislation introduced two years ago.

        On the other hand, maybe he’s a sadistic pervert who raped a sex-trafficked girl who was being held down by gang members at the time, and the screams of the whole ordeal were recorded and played down the telephone line to the victim’s granny in Moldova later that day so as to intimidate and extort the family and victim.

        As I say, I don’t know him or precisely what took place at that brothel. Maybe you do.

    2. Catherine costelloe

      In 2011 “21 guilty of soliciting uncover garda for sex acts” in Limerick resulted in fines of 470 euro. However at least 6 others had their cases remanded and a row broke out after the guilty 21 had names and addresses published — some were married, “pillars”of society. I believe the yokes that asked for remands escaped publicity. As for taking this law seriously……I don’t think so Eoin.

    3. Cian

      “The law is aimed at stopping the trafficking of women for prostitution.”

      There are other laws that make it illegal to traffic people for prostitution. What this law does is push prostitution deeper into criminality and makes it less likely for a man to report a possible trafficked woman.

    4. Yep

      Maybe I do? Why converse like that?

      Reply to Cian above. He made my point but far better. Maybe that’s why you haven’t replied to him

  7. eoin

    Isn’t that a nice coincidence, the announcement this morning that INM is being sold to a Belgian/Dutch media company. The INM AGM which was arranged months ago is taking place later this morning.

    INM Is the biggest press group in Ireland, publishing the Indo, Sindo, Herald, Sunday World and regional newspapers. It is 30% owned by Denis O’Brien, 15% by Dermot Desmond and an estimated 6% by Larry Goodman. As a business, it is mired in controversy with corporate watchdog inspectors whose appointment was approved by the High Court, onsite investigating allegations of hacking paid for by DOB, secret success fees on a transaction payable to DOB, an aborted deal which would have seen INM pay DOB twice the market value of Newstalk and other matters.

    I wonder are there any secret success fees payable in the sale of INM to Mediahuis?


    1. eoin

      FG’s Richard Bruton will have a key role in approving the takeover deal, not that INM staff would allow themselves to be swayed one way or the other in favour of FG in the run-up to the elections at the end of next month…… Hahahahahahahahaha

  8. Andrew

    This pair did indeed conduct a media campaign, it was obvious at the time. However why were the media so willing to give them a hearing and a one sided treatment of their story? They conducted a campaign but were abetted by the agenda driven media. The same media who cheer-led our last property bubble and then portraying speculators as innocent victims.

  9. eoin

    A quiet night in Ireland’s Juarez

    No of houses firebombed? Nil
    No of people shot? Nil
    No of drug raids? Nil
    No of CAB raids on beauty business money laundering front? Nil
    No of jetskis seized by CAB as proceeds of drug dealing? Nil

    1. ReproBertie

      Maybe CAB went to raid them but after travelling just 20 miles from Dublin couldn’t find Drogheda.

  10. deluded

    €145 million for INM. Aiiight.
    1 in 9 influencers give weight loss tips that actually work according to a study reported on Newstalk this morning

    1. GiggidyGoo

      And any clawback of the money (our taxes) that was given to the Indo that kept it going, therefore adding value to it.

  11. eoin

    Red faces at RTE this morning? The gentleman with the badly dyed beard on the front of the London Independent is the leader of ISIS and he’s produced a recent video. RTE had previously reported that this man was killed in US “air strikes”. RTE now appears to have removed those old exaggerated stories of the man’s demise.

    That’s what happens when your news and current affairs operation is beholden to Washington.

    1. Cian

      Utter rubbish from eoin as per usual. Some headlines from RTE:

      – 11 Jul 2017 — Coalition cannot confirm IS leader Baghdadi is dead – RTE
      – 16 Jun 2017 — IS leader Baghdadi reportedly killed in Russian strike – RTE
      – 21 Jul 2017 — Pentagon chief thinks IS leader Baghdadi is alive – RTE

          1. eoin

            I feel I must commend you Cian on locating RTE reports about the *USA* airstrikes because your original comment above suggested they were Russian.

            All you need do now is locate the RTE reports which I said “appear to have been removed” about this man being killed, not rumoured, ifs and maybes, but actually killed and then you can concede your comment was utter rubbish.

          2. ReproBertie

            Come on Cian. Find the things Eoin claims existed, without any evidence, but now don’t exist anymore!

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