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  1. Ron

    And the electorate don’t care. FG FF Labour, Greens. All the party’s that created the mess and compounded the mess even further, all elected and relected. Rewarded at the polls by the Irish people so the only conclusion to be drawn is that as much as people give out in this country, they are happy with the status quo. they are ok with over 10,000 homeless, they are ok with the state being responsible indirectly for the death of of female citizens. They are ok with the 5 billion euro broadband plan and they are ok with the NCH over runs.

    And probably most disturbing of all is that the electorate are also ok with what the state did or more importantly didn’t do concerning Maurice Mc Cabe. They gave Mc Cabe the middle finger by rewarding Fitzgerald with a seat in Euro sugar candy mountain.

    That’s the silly voter for you. Don’t try and rationalise it because you are not dealing with rational people.

    We voted and the people voted for more off the same political excrement

    1. A Person

      Its called democracy. You lefts lost because you don’t have a coherent plan on anything. Everyone is a gombeen, Irish Paddy (how insulting is that?) because they don’t agree with you. SF were the biggest [party in Dublin. How many houses did they deliver? How many times did they stop height increases?

      1. Ron

        The only thing you have proved with your statement is the scientific principle of light travels faster than sound. That’s why people like you appear bright until you open your mouth and talk

        1. A Person

          Its called democracy. You couldn’t answer that simple statement. And yet I am supposedly the dumb one? How typing proves that light travels faster than sound sums up you lefties. All bluster, no response. Go back to your protests, yet don’t achieve anything.

          1. D

            So the local authorities were considerably defunded post 2008 and so SF members there unable to plan/build social housing.

          2. Ron

            Oh god help you lol. If you actually read my comment it’s an assessment of the outcome of the democratic process. Read it back slowly and underline words if it helps you understand.

            I have had my full quota of simpleton and disgustington for the day, so let’s just say we could all agree with you but then we would all be wrong.

          3. A Person

            Good man Ron, just showed yourself up. Can’t answer a simple statement about democracy. People who disagree are simpletons. Bye bye little boy

          4. Ron

            no not everyone is a simpleton. You are.. thats undisputed, but you are not alone in this country. If you can take any comfort from that

          5. Rob_G

            @d

            The SF-led Dublin City Council voted to defund themselves – twice! – by voting to reduce LPT by the highest allowable amount.

          6. A Person

            Little boy Ron… no your are…. Seriously, that and “LOL” is your level of adult discourse. Why is democracy wrong in this instance. The people did not vote for the lefts or shinners. Why, explain? Again, I suggest children like you who cannot engage in an adult conversation about real issues.

    2. :-Joe

      Candy mountain, haha..

      Yes, but to be accurate, 60%-ish of the voters(not the whole poulation) are the ones who vote for this repeatedly by re-electing the same establishment interests mostly within the F-f/g binary choice polemic illusion of democracy party who sell it on the lies and promises of bonuses and kick-backs.

      :-J

      1. Cian

        Are the 40% who don’t bother to vote let off the hook? Surely they are equally (if not more) to blame.

      2. A Person

        You lost it because you cannot deliver.. anything. Just protest. No decisions, no leadership, not even a decent opposition to the so called FG / FF binary choice (which makes no sense).

        1. Ron

          As opposed to the current Government that are delivering lol? Do you not get how ridiculously stupid your comment is? Now I understand the saying; Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. And the really sad part is there are thousands like you out there in this country, with a vote!

          1. A Person

            I’m an idiot because you can’t answer my questions?? Seriously, little boy. Why did the country not vote for the left or the shinners? Why did the shinners (the biggest party) and the other lefts not deliver housing in Dublin for the last 4 years? Maybe that’s why they are not being re-elected? Who is the lol idiot now.

  2. Col

    Does anyone know if any development will happen on the under-utilised and largely empty industrial land in Broombridge?

  3. seanydelight

    St Catherine’s Park is should not be developed. There is little to no green space in that area.
    Its never open for I presume socio-economic reasons, but its provides wild life some space to themselves at least.

    Not sure that the space opposite St James church is vacant either.

    1. The Old Boy

      The space opposite St James’s is owned by the brewery. Guinness is sitting on a lot of underused and disused land in Dublin 8. Modern production methods and a fall in demand have meant a lot of the buildings on site have been lying idle and semi-derelict for years.

      1. SOQ

        And I have been saying this for years.

        I lived in that area and it is criminal the way Diageo can get away with this.

        1. SOQ

          Oh and as someone who has done the real Guinness tour, meaning walked the full land parcel, most of along the quays is derelict too.

          1. bisted

            …oh dear…different avatars…to match your different personalities…your gonna need a lot more avatars…for someone who keeps talking about trolls…tut tut…

          2. SOQ

            Different devices darling- one is a laptop and one is a mobile. The monitoring app see’s a different IP so presents a different avatar. Actually, I must test, it maybe on the mac address.

  4. Anomanomanom

    A few of those spaces are not derelict in the sense of being owned and left to rot. They are owned by the council who keep coming up with plans to develop and then nothing happens. Like the plan for the new park across from Oliver bond, it’ll never be done.

  5. Brother Barnabas

    yet there are fewer than 300 sites across 17 local authority areas listed as “vacant” for the purposes of vacant property tax. it could be a really strong tool for urban regeneration and increased housing supply in dublin. council’s seeming disinterest is bizarre,

      1. Brother Barnabas

        FF-led, if you don’t mind, cian

        but, look, i can’t be spending my day correcting your mistakes, cian – seriously, time to get your poopy together, pal

        1. johnny

          “- it could be a really strong tool for urban regeneration and increased housing supply in dublin. council’s seeming disinterest is bizarre,-”

          I’m not familiar with this incredible ‘tool’ how does it work exactly,specifically regarding increasing housing supply say as opposed to a fully funded land bank.You can use Dublin as your example or to illustrate.

          https://www.govtech.com/fs/infrastructure/Are-Vacant-Property-Taxes-Effective-in-the-Fight-Against-Blight.html

          1. johnny

            Would you like a little time Bro:)
            Its a blunt instrument at best, did you overhear that or steal it from someone else as usual, great soundbite in fairness!

          2. johnny

            Well Bro-you brought me into this exchange, all by yourself,I merely asked you to expand on your rather sweeping and completely idiotic statement.

            In your own words…

            “yet there are fewer than 300 sites across 17 local authority areas listed as “vacant” for the purposes of vacant property tax. it could be a really strong tool for urban regeneration and increased housing supply in dublin”

            I’m not familiar with this amazing ‘tool’ and simply asked you expand a little-go for it-clearly its an area of expertise-maybe I learn sometin:)
            How does it work,use Dublin as your example.

            All yours Bro-some evidence to back up your rather grandiose and sweeping statement be helpful,or is it more mouth and trousers nonsense again with the usual juvenile insults.

          3. Brother Barnabas

            tell me, johnny, how exactly is “vacant property tax could be [if properly applied] a really strong tool for urban regeneration and increased housing supply in dublin” – in your words – a rather grandiose and sweeping statement?

            do you know what “could” means?

          4. johnny

            :)
            Ok bro how ‘could’ it apply to Dublin,tell me what they are doing wrong and how it ‘could’ be used more efficiently and transformed into this amazing tool…….

            You could just stay in your own lane and stop letting me live rent free in your head.

          5. Brother Barnabas

            Would you like a little time, Johhny :)

            i’ll help you out… “could” is a modal verb that expresses tenuous or uncertain possibility

            so, in your own time, tell me how saying something “could be” could in any way be construed or understood as “grandiose and sweeping”?

          6. johnny

            so about that tax………..
            No time required at all Bro,not at all,you know nothing about the topic as usual,but it sounded good,no really it did, its not bizarre,

          7. Brother Barnabas

            thanks johnny. youre kind words are noted. your a good guy at the end of it all.

          8. johnny

            Always the man-well normally its women you prey on-huh Bro-never the ball.You were waxing lyrically about site taxes but when asked expand,it quickly degenerated into a cowardly diatribe about the correct use of ‘could’ or about ME again-its all just a little on the shall we say unhealthy side of things Bro.

            Given your keen interest and expertise in Urban Renewal here’s a recent report-just out this morning.

            “QRE in conjunction with Finance Ireland are very pleased to present this qualitative study into the views of retailers in the current market. Interviews were conducted with predominantly Irish retailers across the food & beverage, grocery and fashion
            sectors, in order to provide an insight into the trends, challenges and outlooks within the sector. Together with recent retail data we set out commentary on the findings of this study. ”

            http://www.qre.ie/sites/default/azbfiles/public/Research/27.05.19%20The%20Evolution%20of%20the%20Retail%20Market%20-%20QRE%20Study.pdf

    1. Otis Blue

      All the more so when the cash strapped Councils would raise up to 7% of the site value in an annual levy.

      The game’s rigged.

  6. TweedJacketGuy

    That site on Bridgefoot Street currently has locals objecting to development because they want Dublin City Council to put in a park instead (a NIMBYist excuse or legit objection?). But it shows that it’s not as easy as finding space to build when there’s already established communities in the surrounding area.

    1. seanydelight

      Id be all for an actual park in that area, would do wonders, but I guess would attract a lot of anti-social uses, which is a shame. Lived 2 years on Francis street. The area is great.

      1. SOQ

        I wouldn’t- Who are these locals objecting? The social housed up the top of the hill backed onto James Street demanding a nice view? It is a TEN MINUTE WALK to Phoenix Park from there ffs.

        Meanwhile others shell out 1.2 a month for a glorified bedsit in Pier 19. Prime site along the quays being held up by those clowns. Give me a friggen break.

  7. A Person

    Its called democracy. You couldn’t answer that simple statement. And yet I am supposedly the dumb one? How typing proves that light travels faster than sound sums up you lefties. All bluster, no response. Go back to your protests, yet don’t achieve anything.

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