85 thoughts on “De Saturday Papers”

  1. eoin

    The truth is slowly emerging in the Maria Bailey swing compo case. The Indo (which has led on this story) reports today about the FG internal probe:

    “One issue likely to be probed is why, given her insistence she was only seeking €7,000, Ms Bailey did not pursue her case in the District Court, which has jurisdiction to award up to €15,000.[She took her case to the circuit court which has an upper limit for personal injury claims of €60,000]. ..[the indorsement of claim] outlined how in addition to medical costs, she was seeking damages for personal injury, loss, damage and inconvenience.”

    Up to now, Maria had been claiming in the media she was only seeking her medical expenses (€7,000). This doesn’t look good.

    Still no word on the Aer Lingus personal injuries claim in 2004. Perhaps, the Sunday press might have more about that!

    Also, the 2-week senior barrister internal review at FG will probe Josepha Madigan’s role in the affair.

    Seriously though, it tells you something about FG that all of this couldn’t have been cleared up in a 15-minute meeting between Tom Curran (the FG general secretary) and Maria and Josepha.

    1. henry

      My business insurance is they rate it is because of people with her mentality
      She deserves to be booted out of politics
      Maybe anyone that runs a business should make her sign a declaration that she will not sue before she sets foot anywhere
      Maybe the electorate in dunloghaire and where Madigan won her seat should not vote for either at the next election

    2. realPolithicks

      Its called “kicking the can down the road”, fg hope that in two weeks time when the “report” is produced people will have moved on to the next whatever.

    3. henry

      I would say he will be extradited as he has been found guilty in a EU nation that Ireland cannot refuse to extradite him to

      Anyway under French law he will this time face the courts as he was found guilty in his absence
      At the end of the day a woman was savagely murdered and justice must be served

  3. eoin

    “Mr Bailey is mocking us,” Mr Bonthoux continued. “I don’t reproach him for looking at the full moon, for being borderline; alcoholic, violent with his partner, a failed journalist and a failed gardener. It is far more serious than that.”

    Absolute travesty of a show trial in France. Mick Clifford outlines the reasoning for the guilty verdict.

    “These included evidence that Bailey had scratches on his hands on December 23, 1996 — the day Ms du Plantier’s body was found — but none the previous day; allegations from a number of people that he admitted killing Ms du Plantier; an eyewitness account by Maria Farrell that she saw Bailey in the early hours of December 23 not far from Ms du Plantier’s home; evidence that he had known Ms du Plantier prior to the murder despite always claiming he did not; and a psychological profile presented to the court that concluded that Bailey had a “borderline” personality.”

    Bigger story might be why Irish Dept of Justice, and organisations under its aegis, handed over evidence and Garda material about an Irish citizen to a foreign government.

    1. henry

      The big story is a French citizen was murdered in Ireland an after all all EU countries comply with EU laws
      You cannot have it both ways
      The victims family are the only ones that we should focus on
      Maybe if he went to France to face charges he might of cleared his name

    2. Lash me

      The big story is that you’re defending a convicted murderer and serial wife beater. Nothing surprising from a Shinner shill though in fairness

  4. eoin

    Lovely story in the Times Ireland, previewing an RTE prog next Thursday.

    96-year old Mayo postmistress who took hourly weather readings (including air pressure) was key to decision by Allies to postpone D-Day landings from 5 June to 6 June; county Mayo readings were key to storms coming in from the Atlantic. The reading on 3 June indicated a storm in France on 5 June, but the reading on 4 June indicated good weather for 6 June. The Germans had their own weather forecasts which indicated storms that entire week and Rommel fecked off home from France to Germany thinking the Allies weren’t going to land that week.

    The Mayo weather readings were sent from ” Ballina and Dublin to the British Met Office”

    Was that a breach of neutrality?

    1. Spaghetti Hoop

      You could say that, but the coastguard and lighthouse keeper who sent the weather reports – an arrangement we had with the Brits since independence – did not know the reasons for the weather reports. In fairness there was nothing remotely military or political about the undertaking. When I visited Black Sod a few years ago everyone was falling over themselves with pride that the weather reports sent from there enabled the Allied invasion of Nazi Europe. I find that more odd: Irish people and their selective amnesia.

      1. eoin

        Yes, yes, I’m full of proud myself at enabling the mass rapes by American soldiers of French and German women after the invasion. Missed that in “Saving Private Ryan”, so I did.

        1. Nigel

          Also the little matter of ending the extermination of Jews, Romany, homosexuals and the intellectually and physically disabled, which is probably more the sort of thing they were thinking of.

        2. henry

          You forgot to mention the rapes by german Russian Irish English Scottish welsh polish Ukrainian etc

      2. f_lawless

        Reminds me a bit of those polls taken in 1945, 1994 & 2004 where French citizens were asked who they thought deserved the most credit for defeating the Nazis. In 1945, the majority felt it was the Soviets but by the 1990s, a growing majority believed it to be the US.

        Maybe it’s through the power of globalisation that we end up adopting the dominant Anglocentric perspectives (often portrayed through Hollywood) as our own?
        https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year-campaign-to-convince-people-the-usa-and-not

        1. Nigel

          Or maybe growing awareness of the North Atlantic Convoys, not to mention remembering which side Russia was on at the start of the war, which meant Stalin effectively won the war he helped start, so perhaps ‘credit’ doesn’t really capture the nuances.

          2. Nigel

            It isn’t even as if Stalin joined the Allies to save Europe from the Nazis, he was in the Axis right up until Hitler invaded, and while the Nazis were rolling through the steppes Stalin was begging the Allies, who were suffering a horrible death toll bringing food and materiel to Murmansk and Archangel, to open the second front to take the pressure off.

  5. eoin

    No word on Digicel’s financial results for the first quarter of 2019 (which is the final quarter of its financial year ending March). However, there is news former CEO of Turkey’s biggest mobile operator has joined the DIgicel board. The Turk stepped down suddenly after four years in March, no word on why, but Turkish media reporting has been complimentary about his role at the company. Turkcell has mobile licences in several craphole countries, it’s suing a South African operator for allegedly paying bribes to win a mobile licence in Iran. I’m sure he’ll be right at home at Digicel, however long more it stays in business.

      1. martco

        well that’s a word that wouldn’t really cross your mind one end of the year to the next, is it now?

        so by my reckoning MaryLou there has a little something on her mind, wha?

        durty durty MaryLou

      2. MaryLou's ArmaLite

        It’s a traditional Japanese noodle dish. Apparently it’s very good for your skin, maybe you should try it.

          1. SOQ

            Take your time in answering this one JR. The ‘tech guy’ appears to be going rouge.

      4. Lash me

        true – historically we tend to associate the more effluent flecked threads with your own stellar content

      5. rotide

        Clearly we all know that Bukkake isn’t a traditional japanese noodle dish.

        However, I’m mystified why you think it’s a scumbag of an expression?

        1. Vanessa the Holy Face of Frilly Keane

          Get da’ púc Row
          There’s a certain amount of hypocrisy I’m prepared to swallow totally intended btw
          Around here
          But that’s taking the phish

          If I even used the expression sp rhymes with punk ONCE
          Ye’d have gone savage
          Before BS tweeked it into candy floss

          C’mon

  7. SOQ

    Ironic story of the week has to be that David Cameron, the man responsible for the Brexit mess is to take up a board position with- an Artificial Intelligence company.

    Criticising the appointment, however, the pro-Jeremy Corbyn organisation, Momentum, said: “Interesting that the man who introduced the bedroom tax, cut taxes for corporations and split the country in two is being hired for his ‘strategic’ oversight. Britain’s elite only fail upwards.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-new-job-afiniti-artificial-intelligence-conservatives-a8938566.html

  8. Steve

    Haven’t been here in a while but you guys (Bodger , prosperous John etc) must be pretty embarrassed about giving a racist a platform on broadsheet, the YouTube chats with O’Doherty etc

    I could have missed it ,but any pieces on her recent longford diatribes ?

    Any mea culpa?

    1. bisted

      …hiya Steve…sad to say you haven’t missed much by way of apologies…somebody on here this week even suggested that ‘we all partied’…we didn’t all party…some of us pointed out her anti-vax and pro-life credentials when she started to get a platform here…the people who shilled loudest for her continue to get a platform here…

      1. Brother Barnabas

        it’s a small bit weird that anyone might feel they’re due an ‘apology’ for anything

          1. Brother Barnabas

            her roving video report around bray last week was a classic – managed to shoehorn every element of her madness into a 90 second diatribe

            sadly deleted now

          5. rotide

            That was truly hilarious, I wondered why I couldn’t find it when trying to send it on to someone.

          6. Vanessa the Holy Face of Frilly Keane

            Ok Row
            T’was funny

            The RTÉ one Where were you on this day
            With the Tarts

            And I’ll admit to openly enjoying the way she says Filth

            But this latest batch from her travels to Longford have brought us all into a whole game
            And agenda

            So it’s no longer a laughing matter
            And you know it

        2. Lash me

          true – if broadsheet started apologizing for promoting worthless dribble we’d be here for a month

    2. Steve

      Broadsheet very good at pointing the finger at others …FG, the banks, Labour , Irish times etc etc etc, but slow themselves to take ownership of the fact that they helped spread the message of a racist .

      Shame shame shame

        1. Pee Pee

          Better without him, I think. Although he does possess that British bulldog never give up attitude u know.

  10. realPolithicks

    What a travesty the ian bailey situation, under no circumstances should the Irish government even consider extraditing him to France.

    1. Brother Barnabas

      her opponent tonight is in the Belgian police. just a bit of headline messing.

  12. Brother Barnabas

    that’s true enough, frillz. lots of people – myself included – were taken in by GO’D. in fairness, though, she kept most of the real raving looney stuff well under wraps back then.

    I never said it’s weird to *receive* an apology. I said it’s weird to demand or even be angered not to get an apology from bodger et al. with all due respect, who the fupp are we – any of us – to demand anything from BS?

      1. Steve

        Their gaff their rules? Lol

        If they ignore the crap that O’Doherty has been inflicting on kids and parents in longford, but yet comment on other politicians, broadsheet are no better than Fox News.

        Apologise

        1. admins

          We are sorry that GemTrails turned out to be slightly loola..

          Same re Karl Deeter & Vanilly.

          Only sane contributors going forward for us. hugs xoxo.

    2. rotide

      It’s ridiculous for people to ask for an apology from broadsheet for platforming GoD.

      However it’s just as ridiculous for broadsheet to carry on in absolute silence about her. Obviously there’s the fear of legal action, but BS are pretty quick to blow their trumpet about standing up to DoB in the face of legal action.

      Suffice to say if a FG/FF/SF/Labour politician carried on like that on twitter, it would be wall to wall coverage here

      2. jusayinlike

        More wild conspiracies from editor..

        What’s your favourite flat earth theory?

      3. Brother Barnabas

        if a politician carried on like that, yes, for sure- BS would be all over it

        she’s not that, though – she’s a serial, unsuccessful candidate. that’s a category full of loons. nothing to see here.

        1. Steve

          Except that broadsheet spent hours letting her talk on their YouTube and promoted her views

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