56 thoughts on “De Sunday Papers

  1. Formerly known as @ireland.com

    Sadiq Khan is right – Trump is like a 20th century fascist leader.

    1. f_lawless

      Almost seems quaint next to the slicker 21st century Obama-era brand!

      “In describing the Trump administration as fascist we subscribe to a liberal logic which separates out the material realities of fascism from its ideological expression. This helps whitewash the reality of the Democratic Party as a party of war and the financial elite, and instead recasts it in the type of morality play where the beleaguered and high minded liberals like Obama and Clinton become the last bastions of reason and humanity against an ever encroaching darkness – only their tragic struggle against barbarism is doomed to founder on the rocks of the prejudices and the whims of an easily excitable and unsophisticated mob. It is a vision which combines hatred of the lower classes with a drooling sycophancy toward the elite. As tragedy goes, it is more Vanity Fair then Shakespeare.”

      https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/07/04/trump-obama-and-the-nature-of-fascism/

      1. Nigel

        Meanwhile the Republicans roll back abortion rights, demonise immigrants, seperate families at the border, privatise health care and education, throw poor people of colour off the electoral register by the thousands, launch trade wars, declare the media the enemy of the people, deny the scence and dangers of climate change and give corporations free rein to poison the environment and engage in massive amounts of wage theft and occasionally shoot up a school or mosque thank God you’re too snart to see them as the real threat.

        1. scooperman

          I’m an example of why all people shouldn’t be allowed vote. Just read f_lawless comment and totally agreed. Then read Nigel’s and totally agreed.

          1. Nigel

            It’s not that Clinton and Obama can’t be crticised or that the Democratic Party isn’t too cosy with the elites, it’s just that there are no beleagured decent conservatives within the Republican party pushing back against the fascism. The only place in US national politics where you’ll find a Green New Deal and financial reforms and education policies and minimum wage and worker protections and reductions in military spending is in the Democratic Party. The first comment isn’t entirely wrong in the particulars, it’s just a very tailored narrow view

          2. Nigel

            Declaring the media the enemy of the people. Making it a crime to get an abortion in another state where it’s legal. Calling for political enemies to be jailed. Demonising a small segment of the population. Promoting programnes where children are firced to conform to rigid ideas of sexuality. Etc. Etc.

            Now show me the lies in my paragraph.

          3. Nigel

            That’s certainy how you go about laying the groundwork for jailing inconvenient media, and poor ol Julian Assange might still be worried about the extradition despite your assurances.

            I’m sorry, what’s the lie there? The Green New Deal is an initiative from within the Democratic Party. Are you saying that’s a lie?

            Obama’s hawkish foreign policy was disastrous, but not a patch on the global catastrophe the militarism of the previous Republican administration, and now Trump is is openly cosying up to authoritarian strong-men and sabre-rattling at Iran after wrecking the nuclear limitation programme. The best hope for him not actually going to war right now is his right-wing fascistic isolationism, which is always at odds with the right-wing fascistic fetishisation of militarism and subduing threats to the motherland and therefore not something to rest your dovish hopes on.

            So, no lies, and nobody in the Republican party pushing back against the fascism.

          4. Nigel

            Sorry – ‘the global catastrophe the militarism the previous Republican administration unleashed’

          5. Nigel

            My God I pwned him so hard he was wiped from existence. I must only use these powers for good. Oy! Charger! Debate meeeee!

  2. Bonkers

    I just woke up in Madrid with a stinging hangover but no matter, Liverpool won their sixth European title last night under Jurgen Klopp and the city went absolutely mental. The Scousers are back baby !

    1. SOQ

      I hadn’t my glasses on and read that as ‘I woke up in Mildred with a stinging hangover’.

      Well, we’re all grown ups I suppose. Iv’e ended up in worse.

  3. eoin

    The Sunday Times reports (what, in fairness, we all suspected)

    “Daft.ie, which styles itself as Ireland’s leading property website, has no safeguards in place to prevent fraudulent property advertisements being posted. The Sunday Times was able to post an advertisement for a room in a non-existent apartment last week without being asked for proof of address, photographs, or other means of verification. The advert gave a street address but no house number.”

    A reminder of the boyos who co-own Daft.

    https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/daft-dividend-property-sites-fallon-brothers-share-in-8m-37487324.html

    “THE millionaire Fallon brothers have shared a further €8m dividend windfall with other shareholders from their online group of companies this year and last year… The revenues include the income generated by the daft.ie and the Done Deal websites. “

  4. Mickey Twopints

    Conservative Party hopeful Michael “had enough of experts” Gove “is prepared to delay BREXIT until 2020”.

    Well, that’s big of him. They’ll never get it, will they, the Tories?

  5. eoin

    SBP is a joke.

    With Blue Hugh off to INM (Indo. Sindo) the handful of decent journos is now down to a couple of fingers.

    Big feature on Sweden across several articles today. If you didn’t know better, you could think it was the SBP’s owners, Kilcullen researching an exit by listing on Sweden’s baby stock exchange.

    Eoghan Murphy’s brother (you knew that, right?), Colin writes “It’s time to back off: Bailey has been punished enough”

    Roisin Burke reveals a private equity fund, Carlyle Capital is investing in waste collection. Why would vultures (Cerberus is a big investor) be targetting our utility companies, surely the returns would be measly?

  6. eoin

    A French national is killed in a foreign country, the foreign country doesn’t put the suspected killer on trial, the family of dead woman try to get the suspect extradited to France but the foreign country refuses the extradition requests, eventually, the French put the suspect on trial in absentia, they convict him.

    Sound familiar?

    The next bit isn’t (yet!). The family kidnap the suspect in the foreign country, return him to France, where he is tried again and sentenced to 15 years in jail. A member of the family is convicted of kidnapping and sentenced to one year.

    True story.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinka_Bamberski_case

  7. eoin

    Jebus, the state of the compo culture in this country. A lad slipped on an indoor soccer pitch and sued the community group which owned the hall. In the High Court, where you go for €60,000+ claims. The lad lost, but what costs will the community group be nursing?

    http://www.courts.ie/Judgments.nsf/09859e7a3f34669680256ef3004a27de/789ebc69ef59d8b58025840a00307986?OpenDocument

    How the hell are Maria Bailey and her facilitator Josepha Madigan (and Alan Farrell for that matter) allowed anywhere near public office in the country?

  8. eoin

    No wonder the International Olympics Committee (hardly known for being squeaky clean itself) has banned the International Boxing Association from the 2020 Olympics.

    1. eoin

      Thinking of boxer Michael Conlan today after his defeat at the Rio Olympics

      “I came for gold and I’ve been cheated. I’ll not do another Olympics. I would advise anybody not to compete for the AIBA. At the end of the first round, it had been so easy, so comfortable, I wasn’t even out of breath. I said ‘I’ll win this easy’. But I was told I was down. I had to go to war. I fought him at his own game. I pulled back that second round then I outfought him in the last round. I’ve been robbed of my Olympic dream.”

      And the damning report of fixed matches at Rio by the Irish boxing manager afterwards:

      https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/rio-report-claims-michael-conlan-s-2016-olympic-fight-was-fixed-1.3422913

      And who can forget the only person out of 10,500 competitors to be kicked out of Rio 2016 for doping was our very own boxer, Michael O’Reilly.

    1. martco

      Indeed although there are plenty of reports out today that were very critical of the scoring & result

      Apparently there will be a re-match later in the year

      1. Vanessa the Holy Face of Frilly Keane

        Yeah

        Doubts spreading alright

        Only thing I’d say really is Katie isn’t afraid of taking a dig
        Off anyone
        To the face

        She’s an incredibly tough boxer
        Harder that many in that game
        She really isn’t afraid of getting hurt

        Well done Girl
        Say nathin’ and take the rematch

      2. Charlie

        I watch a lot of boxing and she definitely won the fight. It was a lot tougher than I thought it would be but she certainly shaded it.

      3. millie st murderlark

        I watched it last night and have to say I was very surprised to see Katie announced as the winner. Thought Delfine shaded her a by just a bit. It was such a scrappy fight though it was hard to judge, and I’m not great at the technicalities of boxing.

        I’d say a rematch would be something else to watch, especially now because Katie has so much to prove after such a controversial win and Delfine will probably be out for blood, so to speak.

        All the same, fair play to Katie. Delighted for her. The true pride of Ireland.

        1. Vanessa the Holy Face of Frilly Keane

          I’ve had annuder lamp there now Mill
          And paid closer well, sober, attention

          If you’re a purist
          Katie was a clear winner
          Like the quality of the punches she landed
          Would’ve left a no doubt win at amateur for Katie

          As a fight fan
          You can absolutely see where there would be questions
          The fans love a proper scrap
          And TBF they don’t get them very often
          So they would’ve lapped up the number of swings Delfine got out’ve herself

          And would’ve been swayed into thinking the number of punches made her champion

          One thing that’s no doubt
          For a fight fan
          It was a great bout to watch
          Both went full out
          Right to the final ding ding

          Sum’ting else
          T’would want ya to make a trip the next time there’s a Paddy in MSG

  9. Ben Redmond

    I wish to say quietly that I am not in favour of women’s boxing. I don’t like the idea of two women in a ring trying to box the heads off each other. IMHO it is unladylike behaviour and likely to injure the natural prettiness of young women and damage their marriage prospects. I know this is likely to be a controversial opinion so I’m off to Singapore for a fortnight’s holiday until the hullabaloo dies down on this thread. Thank you.

    1. millie st murderlark

      I have so many problems with the utter poo you just spouted that I’ll wait until your return from Singapore so I can take it up with you in the thorough fashion your comment so richly deserves.

    2. realPolithicks

      I have to tell you benny that that was an absolutely pathetic attempt at trolling.

    3. Vanessa the Holy Face of Frilly Keane

      Ah bless

      I think they’ve just all lost their confidence now that the pack has scattered, splintered and shattered
      An’ don’t know what t’ do with themselves
      With no Leader or Master of Arms

      A bit like Waherfurd earlier today
      No effort at all

  10. Ger Mc

    I’m being serious lads. I can’t open any of my windows and I am dying from the heat . Every time I kill one another pops out from nowhere

      1. Ger Mc

        Not as small as Brother Barnabas but definitely bigger than old Bertie. Can you still help me Millie?

        1. Brother Barnabas

          can’t speak for bertie, but I’m neither small nor particularly large

          ( just over 1.8 m and around 76kg if you’d really like to know)

    1. millie st murderlark

      Because I don’t mind the small ones but I will go full Bruce Lee on anything than the little ones that are actually made of dust.

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