Greener Than Thou

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Saturday.

Wynn’s Hotel, Dublin.

The first public meeting of the new party called RISE led by Paul Murphy TD where they outlined five new policies under a ‘Green New Deal’.

These are: the “right to transport, sustainable agriculture, workers cant pay the price for climate change, introduce a four day week” and “take the power and wealth from the capitalist elite”.

Fight!

Fight!Rise

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35 thoughts on “Greener Than Thou

        1. dav

          Some history tumps others, I wouldn’t expect you know history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal
          “A Modest Proposal For preventing the Children of Poor People From being a Burthen to Their Parents or Country, and For making them Beneficial to the Publick,[1] commonly referred to as A Modest Proposal, is a Juvenalian satirical essay written and published anonymously by Jonathan Swift in 1729. The essay suggests that the impoverished Irish might ease their economic troubles by selling their children as food to rich gentlemen and ladies. This satirical hyperbole mocked heartless attitudes towards the poor, as well as British policy toward the Irish in general. “

  1. Cú Chulainn

    It’s like a students union socialist workers party event from the 1980s.. only surprised cheap pints, rollies and legalise the weed aren’t on the list..

  2. Rob_G

    From the party that brought you such policies as allowing people to produce as much rubbish as they want, and squander as much water as they please – environmental policies!

    1. Dr.Fart

      the average household in Ireland uses far less water than their counterpart in England. There’s no domestic water waste issue in Ireland, other than from leaking pipes which should have been fixed using the money they used to set up the country’s biggest ever Quango. I don’t know what you’re referencing regards producing waste, but I’ve no doubt you’re oversimplifying something more complex to try add drama to your tired and flawed point.

          1. Cian

            I don’t think so. As far as I can tell this is the number at the household meter. It would include leaks inside the house, but not on the water network.

      1. Rob_G

        People always harp on about ‘fix the leaks’ – there is no way to discover water leaks at a domestic level without water meters; before the meters were installed, they just had to guess.

        This man was losing almost a million litres a month due to a leak – if meters had not have been installed, presumably this would still be leaking today – https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/video-leak-sees-30-years-5048300

        As for the waste point – look up the bin charge protests, and how the Socialist Party contributed to teh privatisation of Dublin’s bin services ;)

          1. Rob_G

            Water meters have a leak alarm that reports abnormal usage; while you might be able to detect leaks with sound, you would need ot have a fair idea of where it was already.

        1. some old queen

          People always harp on about ‘fix the leaks’ – there is no way to discover water leaks at a domestic level without water meters; before the meters were installed, they just had to guess.

          By dometic level you mean on private property right? Except we already knew that all MAJOR leaks were on the public side and that installing meters has only contributed to that wastage because old pipes- on the public side- have cracked since.

          It was a scam from start to finish- give it up.

          1. Rob_G

            “Except we already knew that all MAJOR leaks were on the public side”

            – this has been plucked straight from your botty.

        2. McVitty

          You could shrink Bertie Aherne, flush him through the system and he’ll find all the holes…you just need to be one his buddies for him to tell you.

  3. Nullzero

    If there’s a bandwagon going through town Paul Murphy is guaranteed to be hanging off the back of it.

    As for the name, it was a toss up between Rise or the national socialists.

  4. Rob Gale

    we really need a socialist/democratic socialist party in Ireland, one with the ability to gather and build momentum off the back of credible, realistic policy ambitions. Murphy tries to go too far, and that’s why he never gets the huge support a proper socialist party could potentially get in a country ran into the ground by neo-liberalism. We’re doomed to be governed by present day policy for eternity.

    1. Rob_G

      Surely the lack of options is not holding the left back – from the Greens and the SDs, to PBP and SP/Solidarity/RISE, surely there are already more than enough parties to cater to all ends of the Left spectrum?

      1. Rob Gale

        there’s way too many. I’m saying we need one, but done well. Not millions of small parties looking for far too much in one go. They can never build support or momentum that way. Like if we had a better performing version of Labour in the UK. We have labour here but they’ve proven to be socialist for show, and not in action.

        1. Rob_G

          Paul Murphy said basically the same thing on the William Campbell podcast. All the more surprising then that, when he was already a member of two socialist groupings, he decided to set up a third…

          1. Rob Gale

            yea that’s why I can’t take him seriously. He’s been playing silly buggers too long. I’d like to see a realistic socialist party. Not some fuppstick who just likes shouting from the sidelines, setting up a million parties each with a longer acronym.

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