72 thoughts on “Tuesday’s Papers

    1. Gearóid

      I was reading a stark book on modern Africa – The Looting Machine – and Tullow came out of it looking like the only ethical oil company. Aside from the obvious of it being a fossil fuel, am I wrong in that interpretation?

  1. Bud Flanagan

    This row about the kid photographed lying on the floor in A&E at Leeds General Infirmary.
    It smells like fake news to me.
    I can’t believe triage nurses would allow a child attached to a saline drip to lie on the floor – it’s unhygienic and the drip has to be above the child’s body to work properly.
    And why has the local NHS body remained silent about this ?
    There’s more to this fishy tale than meets the eye I vouchsafe.

    1. GiggidyGoo

      Triage nurses are the first point of contact in an ED. They don’t follow patients around after they’ve assessed them. Their job is triage at the point of entry into the ED.
      Poor attempt to try divert from the fact that senior tories have used their pals in the media to try muddy Labour.
      The facts are that:
      There is photographic proof of the child in this state
      There is video proof that there was no assault by a Labour person on a Tory person
      BBC ITV reporters have just called themselves out as pro-Boris.

      1. bisted

        …careful now Boris…mind those banana skins…only a few days to go…a lot of people relying on you to deliver on the democratically expressed wish of the UK electorate and get Brexit done…

    2. delacaravanio

      He was waiting to be admitted. In this country nobody would be outraged as we expect to sit on a chair for 12 months before somebody will call you in A&E. In the UK it’s major news. Shows how bad our system is.

      1. Bud Flanagan

        Yup.
        So the mother says I’ll take him out of the chair, put him on the floor and just take a nice photo to give to the media during an election.
        I’d like to see the CCTV on this one.
        And hear the mother’s side of the story.Strange she is so quiet.

        1. millie vanilly strikes again

          Another gem, buddy boy.

          Do you have children? I don’t know of any mother who brings their child to hospital A&E and thinks, ah yes, what a great photo op to stick it to the Tories. If your child is ill enough to warrant a visit to hospital, political football is the last thing on your mind.

          1. Bud Flanagan

            https://mobile.twitter.com/DSheridanYEP
            So,exceptionally high level of demand meant this child couldn’t be found a bed instantly and was waiting in a chair while more serious cases ahead were being dealt with.
            A bed was eventually found.
            And the child was discharged next morning.
            It was the mother who decided to put him on the floor and take a photograph to politicise this.
            Did she seriously think a bed could be found instantly for something that was clearly non-urgent.
            Labour scraping the barrel here.

          2. millie vanilly strikes again

            Yeah, a twitter link to the story and your idiot assumptions don’t really cut it.

          3. f_lawless

            Regardless of the background circumstances of this particular story the NHS is in crisis. When confronted with the image for the first time by a reporter, Johnston’s instinctive reaction was to actually grab the reporter’s phone, put it in his pocket and refuse to look at it. Only after a few moments did the cogs start turning and he realised the optics were really bad so took out the phone. The leader of the nation who lacks empathy, who shuts himself off from those suffering in society. Quite a contrast to Corbyn in that regard

          4. some old queen

            And that is the one thing that has been repeatedly said about Coyrbn- that he is genuine and he does care.

      2. some old queen

        The NHS is not perfect even when properly funded but it is a sight better than the public here- and the reason is that Britain had numerous left wing governments since the Second World War. Ireland on the other hand has always been governed by right of center parties and we have adopted the US health care for profit model which- is extremely inefficient not to mention cost- this is funny.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kll-yYQwmuM

        1. Bud Flanagan

          Utter tripe.
          Labour have only been in power for 27 of the 70 years of the NHS’s existence.
          If the Tories were trying their damnedest to privatise the NHS they’re making a poor job of it.

          1. some old queen

            At what cost Cian?

            Compare a GP visit north and south.

            South- GP charge plus prescription changes per visit- min €60- to 2-300. .
            North- free GP and free prescriptions right across the board. .

            Multiply that by every visit of every patent not covered by a medical card and no- private insurance does not count because you are paying for that separately.

          2. Bud Flanagan

            You don’t pay to stay in hospital either.
            And there are not patients lying on trolleys every night of the year in every hospital as there are in Ireland.
            The UK has a winter bed crisis every year.It starts at about the same time you start hearing Fairytale of New York on the radio.
            Bad weather, seasonal illness like flu and senior doctors taking two weeks off at Christmas with operations not being carried out all contribute.
            By mid-January you don’t hear any more about a bed crisis.
            Here it’s year-round.

          3. GiggidyGoo

            I had a look at that report. It’s based on estimates. A lot of it is based on notional ‘facts’.
            It is based a lot on mortality.
            It specifically refers to Cancer throughout. (think about that in relation to Ireland, and about where the Lancet gets its information)
            The number of people mentioned at the end that contributed in some way, is almost as long as the report. There is a further listing of some contributors who were prepared to declare sops from the from the Pharma industry
            That report is far from proving anything.

          4. Cian

            My point is that our health service (with all it’s failings) is equivalent to the NHS (with all it’s failings) or better – albeit more expensive.

            Ireland now has a higher life expectancy than the UK – this is a reflection of the health care available.

      1. f_lawless

        Bud doesn’t actually care to consider the credibility of the analysis – he’s more concerned with the amount of Twitter followers the person has

  2. Bertie Theodore Alphege Blenkinsop

    FFS!
    Mary Kennedy is on Dancing With The Stars… now I’m going to have to watch it!

  3. garrett

    Dee Forbes assumption that 100& of households have a TV needs to be called out.
    If the product is so good, charge for usage!

    “I think that this is fair value for 44c a day per household……………..none of which offer anywhere near this level of Irish perspective or output.
    Irish perspective:
    RTE 2 tonight:
    In league with Gadaffi
    Ted2
    Class of 92

    RTE1
    Fair City
    Home rescue
    News
    Prime Time
    The Disappearance of Deirdre Jacob

    I wouldn’t pay 4c a day to watch that rubbish

    1. Charlie

      Don’t suppose you saw the In league with Gadaffi documentary last night? Fabulous stuff. More of this kind of thing please RTÉ.

      1. class wario

        Hopefully going to catch this tonight on the Player, very well received by all accounts. The exact sort of thing RTE should be looking to push out but will always have fellas like this complaining about it regardless

        1. Charlie

          The standard of documentary making in this country far outweighs it’s drama efforts. Far too much below average dross being funded.

          1. millie vanilly strikes again

            +1

            I’d happily never see another RTE funded ‘comedy’ again in favour of their documentary and cultural programmes. They should stick with what they do best.

    2. MaryLou's ArmaLite

      Images of Dee when she took over RTE show a happy, energetic young woman. Not so much anymore.

  4. some old queen

    Despite this election being a game of 3D chess- the narrative is boiling down to a binary NHS or Brexit choice- which is quite clever. The NHS has always been a Labour endeavour and is hugely popular with the general public.

    The Tories must get an outright majority because nobody else will go into collation them but Labour do not, which is a huge advantage- just holding their own will be suffice. Tories vs everyone else so.

    1. Bud Flanagan

      Labour endeavour ?
      It was a Conservative Health Minister, Henry Willink, who first proposed the National Health Service in 1944 with the publication of a White Paper “A National Health Service”.
      Labour merely put his plans into practice when they came to power in 1945 and Atlee appointed Bevan Health Minister with instructions to enact William’s plans.
      As mentioned earlier the Tories have been in power for 53 of the NHS’s 70 years of existence.
      You really do talk cobblers at times.

      1. some old queen

        Snipe all you want but the people are looking beyond Brexit to a comparison between British and American social models- and they do not like what they see.

      2. Jibjob

        You yourself previously said 27 years out of 70 under Labour.

        70 – 27 = 43, not 53.

        By the way, 27/70 = 39% to the nearest percent.

  5. Free Tea & Biscuits

    …because nobody else will go into collation them but Labour do not, which is a huge advantage-…

    For the love of God…
    The British are lucky that you aren’t eligible to vote in their elections.

    1. some old queen

      The only ones who would go into coalition with The Tories is Farage and he is floundering- so who else would?

      Labour has SNP, Greens, DUP, SDLP (assuming), and if push comes to shove, Lib Dems because they solid remain- not sure about the welsh.

      Please tell me where I am wrong in the above?

        1. some old queen

          I can- for sure. The DUP’s priority is as they see it, to protect the union, and at the moment they are way more aligned to Labour that Johnson’s Brexit on that point. Also, they are very pro NHS and would have no issue with the nationalisation of water and rail services.

          It is one of the peculiar idiosyncrasies of NI where all the political parties are economically left wing- UUP maybe not so much.

          1. MaryLou's ArmaLite

            I don’t see Left Vs Right being the issue, more an IRA sympathetic Corbyn being a big problem for the DUP

          2. Bud Flanagan

            Somehow I can’t see Arlene climbing into bed with the IRA-apologist who is mates with the people who ordered her father to be shot.

          3. some old queen

            Arlene has already climbed into bed with SF- isn’t that what the Stromont assembly was all about?

          4. Brother Barnabas

            “…can’t see anyone climbing into bed with Arlene…”

            got a small bit of vomit in my mouth on reading that

            i’m ok now

  6. LeopoldGloom

    RTE would still be at least 30 million in the hole if every TV licence fee was paid. They need to stop beating that drum. They’re badly managed from top to bottom.

    1. bisted

      …wasn’t it Corbyn’s old mentor Tony Benn, that spoke of treason in High places when he was thwarted by the civil service…he must be turning in his grave when he sees how the son has turned out…

        1. Brother Barnabas

          seriously, charger, drop this “Corbyn’s anti-semitism” nonsense
          you know very well that it’s boo boos

          1. Bud Flanagan

            I’m not Jewish old sport.
            But some of my oldest friends in Blighty who are long-time Labour supporters are and they believe he is and that’s good enough for me.

  7. Bud Flanagan

    Top work by the Tory rapid response unit after Labour’s big score yesterday.
    A great sucker punch that no-one saw coming and two more days of this slugfest to go.
    Marvellous.

    1. italia'90

      More bare faced lies?
      More public humiliation?
      More about nationalising sausages?
      More rail service chaos?
      More punching down?
      Marvellous news indeed, Wooster!

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