70 thoughts on “Wednesday’s Papers

    1. GiggidyGoo

      Might be a slow start, as Yougov have re calculated and Bud’s Tories majority has significantly dropped.

      1. some old queen

        And most importantly, tactical anti Tory voting on a scale never seen before- there is no way to model that.

      2. Bud Flanagan

        I’ve been predicting a 20-40 seat majority since the start but with so many constituencies with slim majorities it’s still a guessing game.
        However the Tory lead has remained remarkably consistent and if the polls are wrong then all of them will have to be wrong for there to be a hung parliament.
        And that’s unlikely.

          1. Brother Barnabas

            I think YES but I – of course – hope NO

            I’d be very, very surprised at it being anything like 40. more like 10-20.

          2. some old queen

            The problem here is that a lot of people are voting with their hearts not their heads- and, a lot have conflicting emotions. I expect the undecideds are very high and won’t make their minds up until they are actually in the voting booths.

            Meanwhile- UK ports ‘preparing to host EU customs checks’

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50733840

          3. Brother Barnabas

            “won’t make their minds up until they are actually in the voting booths”

            these fools shouldn’t be allowed vote

          4. Bud Flanagan

            The person of colour in the woodpile of all this are the Lib Dems.
            Their support has fallen off a cliff edge and gone back to Labour thanks to a cack-handed campaign by Swinson.
            The key though is to what extend the Tories break through Labour’s Red Wall ‘oop North.
            Must say I’m looking forward to pulling an overnighter tomorrow enormously.

          5. Cú Chulainn

            It is Swinson’s absolute arrogance and stupidity that forced this election to take place now. All she had to do was wait.

          6. bisted

            …the large mammal in the room seems to be the SNP…only Dominic Cummings seems to see them as a threat…Nicola Sturgeon has consistently been the best performer in the UK election…

          7. Bud Flanagan

            Interestingly Sturgeon, who is by far the best political leader of the current lot, has rowed back on the independence issue big time as it was hurting the SNP in the polls.
            Remember, more people in Scotland voted to Leave than they did for the SNP at the last election.
            I think the Tories will lose fewer seats in Scotland than most people originally thought but Labour will take a shellacking.

          8. bisted

            …never mind the polls…the best indicator has to be the bookies…they are showing the tories to be home and hosed but at a remarkably generous 4/6 to gain an overall majority…they don’t share your assessment in Scotland…wipeout for the tories…

          9. bisted

            …had given up on Brexit but a real chance the democratic wish of the UK electorate will be honoured…democracy should be embraced as an opportunity…mind those pesky banana skins Boris…

  1. shayna

    Marie from Roxette died last night aged 61 – RIP
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCorJG9mubk I’m geting too old for this poopy! Everyone is dying, I’m barely getting over Bowie. Don’t get me started on Morrison. I had a conversation recently with an American guy from Wisconson, I quoted Kurt Vonnegut – Slaughter House 5, “My name is Jon Johnssonn, I live in Wisconson, I work in a lumber yard there, the people I meet when I walk down the street, they ask me my name, I say … ” Luckily, he was aware of post modern American literature and the fact that Johnny Depp lit the fuse on Hunter S. Thompson’s cannon that propelled his own ashes into Montana. I’m thinking of the, “Mostly widely read living poet in Ireland” – who would light his fuse? I’m guessing not Michael O’Leary?

    1. millie vanilly strikes again

      I will never forget Bowie. I came downstairs, heard the news and then cried for a good fifteen minutes. He was and is my first and last musical love.

      RIP Marie from Roxette

      1. Brother Barnabas

        what horrors will befall the st meadowlark household when the ferry man catches up with De Burgh?

        1. millie vanilly strikes again

          There will be wailing and weeping, maybe even some gnashing of teeth, mostly to annoy you, dear brother.

          1. Brother Barnabas

            if you were to wake one morning, draw open your drapes to see me clubbing the life out of the toxic little badger de burgh in your back garden… would that make it better or worse?

    2. Bertie Theodore Alphege Blenkinsop

      I loved Bowie too, still do but the musician’s death that hit me hardest (sounds weird even saying it as I never met him) was George Michael.
      There always just seemed to be a sadness to his life.
      I remember the tears rolling down my face when I heard the news, and I don’t even cry at DIY SOS.

          1. Bud Flanagan

            A marvellous woman.
            Transformed the British economy, spaffed off Scargill and the Argies, closed down the pits and saw through Haughey as the criminal he was when most Irish people had a picture of him up on the mantlepiece alongside one of Jesus.
            Did more than any other politician to ensure Britain’s role as the 5th largest economy in the world.
            Her only fault was hanging around for too long but I’ll forgive her that.

          2. scottser

            yeah, her early stuff wasn’t bad but after she started doing cover versions of milton friedman i lost interest.

      1. some old queen

        Technical Support abbreviation no.1 perhaps?

        PEBCAK – Problem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard.

        1. Cian

          possibly – but the only action I took was clicking a shortcut… so I don’t think it was a meatware issue.

  2. GiggidyGoo

    My, D4bes really grasping at straws. Next thing she will be telling us is that Director Generals are in high demand. And Paschal Donohue raids the Social Welfare coffers to keep the pay levels up for RTE so called ‘stars’.

    1. Wibble

      If these RTE ‘stars’ are in such high demand then how come the whole place has just been bailed out by the Dole?

  3. GiggidyGoo

    Just shows the distain Paschal Donohue holds. €24 million he tries to hide (embarrassment money?) as ‘consultancy’ when in fact its settlement money for another FFG fiasco.

        1. Cian

          it wasn’t a diversion – it was a proper question. Will there be a refund of €316 million to the airlines out of this year’s tax take? Is that being hidden too.

          1. GiggidyGoo

            A question you should pose when someone questions/comments on something that refers directly to what you want to divert to.
            As if is, it’s a diversion from my comment.

  4. garrett

    €50 million to RTE over the next 5 years from Social Welfare budget.
    No reporting of this on RTE new site

    No reporting of Kevin Myer’s deserved payout because RTE had to hand him a ton of taxpayers money after fighting him in court for 2 years.

    Dee Forbes reckons all of the below are worth every cent:
    Ryan Tubridy (€495,000)
    Ray D’Arcy (€400,000)
    Joe Duffy (€389,988)
    Miriam O’Callaghan (€299,000)
    Marian Finucane (€295,000)
    Sean O’Rourke (€290,113)
    Claire Byrne (€201,500)
    Nicky Byrne (€200, 583)
    Bryan Dobson (€195,913)
    Darragh Maloney (€188,803)

    This Country really is a cesspit

    1. V

      How the flip
      is Nicky Byrne paid more than Daragh Moloney

      The only name there worth his wages is Daragh
      and the most likely to be headhunted

      That Roster is just bottomways

  5. V

    Very easy decision here Dee,
    and Doh

    Let them go, and replace them with cheaper alternatives.
    Most are contract anyway,
    So just pull that waxing strip Girls

    Grit … suck in …. and

    there there now, all nice and tidy for ye

  6. Bud Flanagan

    Yet those northern communities supposedly eviscerated by Maggie now look to be the ones putting Boris back into power.
    Ironic, no ?
    Fact is she ended a moribund system of industrial relations that was holding back Britain’s economic development and what she replaced it with was happily embraced by Tony Blair for three electoral victories.
    The fact she closed down pits and stopped men having to hack out coal deep undrgound like Dickensian slaves was an added bonus.
    Britain’s economic wealth was enhanced by her deregulation of the City of London financial markets and the fact it is the world’s leading financial centre today is solely down to her Big Bang.
    It’s Corbyn’s desire to return Britain to the dark ages of the 1970s why he’s going to lose an election which by rights Labour should be storming.

    1. Brother Barnabas

      “It’s Corbyn’s desire to return Britain to the dark ages of the 1970s”

      wouldn’t necessarily agree that 1970s britain was based on egalitarianism and fairness but… i wasn’t there, you were

      1. Bud Flanagan

        If you weren’t there on what do you base your views of 1970’s Britain ?
        Unless,like me,you read history.
        Or perhaps like Dom Cummings you got a First in Ancient and Modern History from Oxford .
        Was that where you had your tiff … ?

        1. Brother Barnabas

          seeing as you ask, charger, it was outside the George IV, a little way down portugal st if i remember correctly

          feel free to ask him – he’ll remember

          you wouldn’t have to read much history to know that 1970s british society wasn’t all that equal or fair – damage was done by heath, who quite despicably managed to undo much of wilson’s good work, and finished by thatcher, unfortunate that minority labour governments couldn’t reverse things

      1. Bud Flanagan

        You’re right.
        She closed them because they were losing money thanks to cheap coal imports from countries with lower costs and wages.
        The fact that Britain was also getting cheaper energy from North Sea oil and gas was factored in too.
        She was also ahead of her time in working out that digging fossils fuels out of the ground had no sustainable future.
        Labour would have done exactly the same if they hadn’t been in the pocket of the unions.

  7. Nigel

    Uh, this.. is bad, right? Enshrining Judaism as a race or nationality can’t be good, can it? Even aside from doing it to shut down criticism of Israel.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/us/politics/trump-antisemitism-executive-order.html?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur

    WASHINGTON — President Trump plans to sign an executive order on Wednesday targeting what he sees as anti-Semitism on college campuses by threatening to withhold federal money from educational institutions that fail to combat discrimination, three administration officials said on Tuesday.

    The order will effectively interpret Judaism as a race or nationality, not just a religion, to prompt a federal law penalizing colleges and universities deemed to be shirking their responsibility to foster an open climate for minority students. In recent years, the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions — or B.D.S. — movement against Israel has roiled some campuses, leaving some Jewish students feeling unwelcome or attacked.

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