This morning.
Ballsbridge, Dublin 4
Louis Le Fronde writes:
You have to love Roly’s – reducing the price for all takeaway coffees from €2.10. to €1.99.
It’s amazing how were being ripped off for a cup of coffee all over Dublin….
In fairness.
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I pay €2.90 for reasonable take-away Americano in Dublin 8. Not the worst, but not cheap either.
€2 is fine, €2.90 is an outrage; it’s beans and hot water, not even the overheads of seating, etc., to take into account.
It’s so much more than beans and hot water…
It’s the…
Piece of timber your coffee comes served on…
Instagrammable wall plants…
The beards and the man-buns…
A dog lying under the table (French bull-dog no less)…
Chairs from an old orphanage…
… and a sustainable water recycling thingy that costs more to run than it saves but I feel great for the planet.
2017 called, they want their aeropress back
Beans
Hot water
Cup
Lid
Did you use a stirrer? Sugar? Carrying tray? Bit of milk?
Wages. Employer PRSI
Rent
Rates
Electricity
Gas
Water
Insurance
Repayments on a coffee machine (€16k new)
Oh, and the 13.5% VAT that comes off the top
Grow up
€2.90 a cup equates to about €24 per litre. Buying a pint of beer in a pub has essentially all of the costs you list above, plus a load of government duty, and they still manage to sell it for half the price.
Don’t get salty with me just because you’re getting ripped off with your hot beverages…
Ummmmmm
The largest coffee cup you buy is generally 12 ounces. That’s the equivalent of 340ml
so a litre of coffee, at €2.90, is €8.50 per litre
I paid €5.80 for a pint on the weekend. That’s €10.20 per litre
A publican makes about €1.90 on that pint – not much but not bad, especially as they have a 400-500% mark-up on soft drinks and mixers
An americano as big as a can of coke, really? I will take your word for it.
Going on your figures, this €10.20 per litre of beer contains €1 of duty, 23% VAT, and entitles the purchaser to sit and drink at their leisure (so, arguably more electricity, staff costs and rates per unit sold).
Whereas €8.50 per litre of coffee contains zero duty (I think?), 13.5% VAT. And the purchaser takes it and leaves the premises immediately – less floorspace, so less rental costs, less electricity and rates costs associated with each unit, as they are only on the premises a minute or two, etc.
I know that the raw materials of coffee are not the only costs of doing business, but €3 for a takeaway coffee, especially, is ripping the pee, a bit.
But do they give you the 1c change if you hand over €2 for the coffee?
Tap your card. It’s only €1.99 then
Sneachta will be excited and Sorcha will ask for an extra shot no doubt
Can we not have a cull of the rugby roysh types?
Bitter
Thats what an extra shot of espresso does
That too
Fluffybiscuites…. Didn’t you get the memo the Rugby Roysh crowd are from Clonskeagh and they go to Avoca?
Ha haaa. Good one.
Nick’s in Ranelagh is decent value and their coffee is nice. €2 for an americano and €2.50 for a flat white. The decision to open an expensive coffee shop directly opposite them doesn’t seem to be paying off
by that I mean project black. There’s never anyone in it and Nick’s is usually busy
“Can I have my one cent change please”
“Sorry; we round up to €2”
“Well put €2 on the fupping board then”
If you pay by card it’s €1.99; by cash €2.00 (assuming it’s most other shops in Dublin)
So you’re ok if all shopkeepers overcharge you and everyone else paying by cash?
How many times does that happen a day?
Is there a million such interactions every day all over Ireland?
That means 10k every day goes ‘missing’ from the pockets of hard working people…
I feel a Yeats poem coming on.
I consider it as a helpful subsidy to the clever people like me who tap & pay, so I am all in favour of it.
m’eh.
I have a jar of coppers at home.
More trouble than they are worth.
But I would be equally happy if prices were rounded up by a cent.
Is it overcharging if the seller is setting the price? Should they drop it to 1.95 so you get your 5c change?
Also you have the choice to not buy the coffee.
“What need you being come to sense
But fumble in a greasy till and add the halfpence to the pence…”
I don’t get this coffee thing. When did we all become aficionados and dependent?
I blame Italia ’90
Lads came home and started looking for Cappachinos n’ the like
Before that coffee with cream from Roches was the height of our coffee experience
But with the custard slice, though, if you were super good.
Biscuit cake for me
And I’ve attempted 100s of recipes and still nothing came close to a Thompson’s Biscuit Cake
The blend of shortbreaded sweet and salt they achieved was genius
Pure Cork genius
Like Tanora
Impossible to replicate
Splutter!!
I nearly snotted my homemade cappachino all over the ‘puter during
a 10TB file transfer
Ya langer!
;)
Burning docs ‘tailia are we (⌐■-■)
Something like that V
Transferring MP4 files before the big purge in January
There’s a little gem of a cafe I go to, which sells the most beautiful Italian coffee for €2.30, which isn’t the cheapest but worth it for the utterly delicious flavour.
It’s 1.20 in Paris. Ripoff Dublin.
at the bar it is, the further you go from bar the higher the price, most expensive on terrace ( heated), the waiter has to walk to your undeserving bottom after all ;)
Yes, but I rarely wander outside the 18th arrondissement.
I lived in Pigalle for 8 of my 18, worked a few wee dives around there,
ever go to Follies…out out ?
Folies – Place Pigalle. Yeah I know it.
Nothing is €1.20 in Paris.
*Doubt*
he’s right coffee…an express is 1.20 at the bar of a local brasserie
Yep. €1.10 in Rome if you know what you’re doing.
actually it’s much cheaper to live in Paris than Dublin, cheaper to eat out, drink, rent, bootcamps/gym, transport, doctors…etc obvs I am not talking about tourist traps but where Parisian go
I went to what looked like a non tourist trap cafe for breakfast in Paris and was charged €7 for a glass of orange juice
fresh squessed orange juice ? yeah that’s a rip off everywhere, reflects the pain in the bottom it is considered to make
it’s to discourage you from wreaking the waiters head, I kid you not
yes it was fresh. I was hungover and craved, I caved, I paid
we have all been there
€1.20 in Saint Denis if you’re feeling brave…..!!
It is almost as if the cost of renting retail space as well as footfall varies in different parts of the city .
The center of Ballsbridge village, where Rolys is based, is definitely not known for its unusually low cost of renting retail space.
Its a great price, maybe it might inspire a low-cost/decent quality coffee revolution. Fair play to them.
Yes, not everywhere has the same overheads as edgy, up and coming ballsbridge
If you bring your reusable cup from Irish Rail does Irish Roly’s do coffee for 1.75 though?
Offering Xmas Gift Vouchers for a cup of coffee says it all.