37 thoughts on “Saturday’s Papers

      1. GiggidyGoo

        “What’s changed in the Event Centre contract to increase the public fund requirement from an originally agreed €20m to €50m now.”? You ask.

        Probably the installation of extra crowd control barriers or high speed broadband. Or – Remember that BAM and Dinny were involved together in a hotel development in Dublin recently.

        You never know with FG.

      2. Otis Blue

        Post tender approval, the floor plan of the centre is reconfigured to increase it by 20%. However, this precipitates a 150% increase in the non-repayable grant sourced from tax payer funds.

        That’s very tasty for BAM and Live Nation. Not so much for the tax payer.

        1. V

          It’s the ‘non- repay’ element to the increase that’s the worrying part

          Well to me anyway

          Non-repay pretty much promises that even if it makes money enough to cover it’s operation costs – it will still be a gift to the operators


          1. GiggidyGoo

            Grants are generally non-repayable. If monies given were repayable, then it would be a loan.
            This is a sop to BAM and whoever else, increased from€20m to €50m because something was redrawn. Lazy politicians (putting it mildly) pulling the teats of our finances with the mouths of the favoured few beneath. Strange that BAM isn’t going Dutch and financing it out of their own pockets.

          2. Otis Blue

            Seems odd to stress the non repayable element. All grants are conditional and require specific performance by the grantee.

            The tone of the piece suggests The Examiner is sceptical.

          3. V

            Wrong Grope

            Grants are treated as liabilities
            In fact have their very own specific accounting standard

            Ara’ meh
            Go get one of your pals to put you right

            And yes OhTea
            There is every reason to be sceptical

          4. GiggidyGoo

            And grants are generally non-repayable.
            The accountancy methods of recording them don’t get away from that FACT .
            Meh, shur’, Ara, Bidda Hokey Smokie etc.
            Maybe get one of your own pals to set you straight. They can inform you in Text Art maybe?

          5. V

            Since you know so much
            How is it the FAI have found themselves liable to repay monies they got ?

            If even the Sports Direct spondoulies were treated correctly in their accounts
            As liabilities until promises and conditions have been met/ completed and professionally signed off
            Things mightn’t have come as a shock or being as dramatically desperate
            Or at the very least – users of those accounts would know that income recorded had conditions attached

            By publicly announcing that this grant top up will not have repayment as a penality promises that they don’t have to be treated as a liability in their accounts
            So their balance sheet will always look pretty

            And ripe and rosy for the private sector
            Or even a particular business man who is well got in Fine Gael
            And or one who might have difficulty raising finance

            But shur’ you knew that already didn’t ya Grope?

          6. V

            And for a FACT

            All State Grants are subject to be repaid
            If the purpose (s) for which they were awarded hasn’t been fulfilled
            Likewise if the conditions attached to them weren’t complied with

            And tbh that has being the case since I started out almost 30 years ago

          7. GiggidyGoo

            So, what I’m saying is correct then – grants are generally non-repayable.
            Odd that you have an aversion to understanding what’s written.
            I know ‘so much’ as you put it, that I used the word ‘generally’ into my post.
            Down off your high horse there V. Read and understand.
            You have an inane habit of making quite an idiot of yourself recently – from your hotel comment (that had the potential to get BS into a spot of bother) to your virtue signaling post on the MF story.

          8. V

            I think you’ve me mixed up with someone else Grope

            Have you put wrong logins on this morning
            Hotel post?
            MF story?

            And it’s not generally btw
            It’s a reporting compliance requirement
            All grants even proportionally have to be presented in the accounts as Liabilities
            As there is always the risk they may have to repaid until there is proof ie. Compliance Cert signed off is in place

            And now the Cork Convention doesn’t have to do that

            And btw
            I’ve been bloggarding long before Broadsheet launched
            So there is no lately about making a tit of myself

          9. GiggidyGoo

            Haven’t you mixed up at all Virtue. If you’re getting so low as to lie now, then that’s your problem. Shame on you though.
            And, generally, grants aren’t repaid. Divert to accounting ‘procedures’ all you want, but it is a fact that they, generally, aren’t repaid.

          10. Otis Blue

            There’s an obvious distinction between repayable and being repaid. Have no doubt that the terms and conditions of pretty much any grant aid has a claw back clause stating the requirement to repay the grant where certain conditions or covenants are breached. The fact that, in all likelihood, such monies may not actually be sought by the granting body in such instances is a different issue.

          11. GiggidyGoo

            Ah – the exit occurs – hard to get away from a couple of home truths eh?
            Yep you’re a bit of a Mnah Mnah alright Virtue. Can’t help yourself. No shame.

  1. f_lawless

    3,000 more US troops on their way to the Middle East. – seems likely that Ireland is directly complicit in facilitating this reckless escalation by the US war machine. As Ron might say, we’re being led by gobdaws!

    Earlier from Shannon Watch on Twitter:
    “Today at @ShannonAirport another US troop carrier. Came from Biggs Air Base, Texas, most likely going to Kuwait. As #US tries to wage war with #Iran why is Ireland supporting them to do it? @SimonCoveney
    @LeoVaradkar @dfatirl you need to end this madness. #USMilitaryOutOfShannon”

    1. Charger Salmons

      Hats off to the US for taking out this mass murderer with such a clinical strike.
      Apparently our brave boys in the SAS had him in their sights in 2007 but their assassination attempt was vetoed by David Miliband, the older of the two useless Miliband brothers.
      Think of how many innocent lives they would have saved in the years since then.
      No surprise to see Comrade Corbyn condemning it – he’s been on the payroll of Iranian Press TV for years.
      And all this nonsense about stopping the re-fuelling flights at Shannon is ,well, just nonsense.
      Ireland may well be the lapdog of the EU but it’s also Uncle Sam’s poodle.
      Suck it up lads. At least the Shannon duty free shop does a roaring trade in chewing gum and baseball hats.
      Yeehaaa !

      1. bisted

        …if the US had wanted to take out a mass murderer they had plenty of options at home without having to venture abroad where they will be bitten back…

      2. f_lawless

        Charger must have gotten the “Victor Book for Boys” annual he asked Santa for this Christmas and is now applying his fresh insight to foreign affairs.

        1. V

          Nothing fresh about it

          If that second paragraph
          ….Apparently our brave boys in the SAS had him in their sights in 2007 but their assassination attempt was vetoed by David Miliband, the older of the two useless Miliband brothers. …..

          Doesn’t tell ye who’s really doing the twerking well feic;
          ye deserve to be taken in

          BTW: he’s not wrong here – that man should have been dropped on years ago. Just saying:

          1. f_lawless

            You obviously haven’t a clue what you’re talking about and seem to have adopted a western imperialist mindset, subconsciously or otherwise . It’s the US-led cabal who’ve been purposely destabilising much of the MENA region for 2 decades now with their illegal invasions and occupations, a policy of perpetual war and the funding, training and arming of radical Islamic proxies including ISIS. Qasem Soleimani has been the single most effective military figure in defeaing those extremist proxy groups.

      3. Ringsend Incinerator

        Hats off to the US for beating the Brits and declaring independence.

        You’ll go blind with that John McGuirk blow-up doll.

    1. Charger Salmons

      Chalk it down there kiddo.
      I’m over this way at the moment sorting out a bit of business and by Jove they’re porkers.
      Mind you the British Isles are not far behind in the lard bucket stakes.

      1. Charger Salmons

        Bertie old sauce.
        You’re confusing me with someone who gives a monkey’s what you think.
        Have a rich tea biscuit and a lie down.
        You’ll feel much better.

  2. Charger Salmons

    I see they’ve been parading his ” remains ” through Baghdad today in a coffin.
    a shoebox would have been sufficient.
    Not such great optics for the terrorist-excusers like Corbyn though.

  3. Peter Dempsey

    Feel sorry for the family of Nichola Sweeney. Can’t wait to see the Left defend that one.

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