@Luas why is your LUAS every morning this week pulling off when people are running to it? A train pulls up and 30 people are getting off, and your luas pulls off as they get to it , leaving everyone standing at broombridge for 12 minutes until the next one comes along.
— Mike Flynn (@MikeFly26561112) February 4, 2020
Your drivers can clearly see people running across the footbridge and down the steps, but pulls off, wheres the common sense and decent courtesy? It’s not as if there is another one, they are 10-12 minutes apart.
— Mike Flynn (@MikeFly26561112) February 4, 2020
@Luas Could you please explain why the @Luas train leaving Broombridge at 9.36 didnt let people in who just arrived with the M3 Parkway train? We stood on the platform for 10 seconds and couldnt open the doors. Very frustrating.
— Gosia Davies (@DaviesGosia) January 24, 2020
This morning.
Anyone?
The original DART feeder buses worked on the same system. Get away rapidly when there’s a sign of approaching punters.
yup the guys used to love watching you get over the footbridge at Sutton only to pull off, sometimes with a forty minute wait until the next one at an inadequate freezing shelter
I myself was a 102 user in my youth. Folk of a certain vintage remember Cyril, the driver who never had any change. Prick made a fortune in unclaimed coinage every day.
In Germany all trains and trams do this – they close the doors without any consideration for who’s waiting – this is the reason their public transport is always exactly on time.
yeah but there probably more of them
*are, like the parisienne metro, every 5 mins no need to run for the one you are missing
When I see a gang of people running towards me around Broombridge I also leggit!
I’ve been in situations before like this where I’ve been legging it for a luas or bus and having them shut the doors despite being in touching distance of the thing. especially annoying with the luas where you basically get punished for being a good passenger and tagging on your leap card when you’re rushing to get on one. It’s very annoying and there’s definitely space for a more common sense approach.
Not sure that extends to holding on til everybody is over a bridge though. How far back would this grace period extend? what if a new group are legging it over after the first?
I take the Luas every day from Boombridge, and can offer a few personal insights:
1. Train commuters who miss the Luas don’t realize that the commuters from the previous train likely missed the previous Luas, and are in the Luas that just pulled off the platform. In the rare occasions when the Luas waits for the train passengers it gets so full at Broombridge that I witnessed people in Phibsborough (two stops down the line) who wouldn’t fit in anymore. Granted, it would make more sense to have the Luas leave a few minutes before the next train arrives, as not to give false hope to the train passengers, but the current scheduling where only one train load is allowed on the Luas allows people on the next few stops to fit in.
2. There is a track switch right after the platform. So, every Luas closes its doors and pulls off for a few meters, then stops for a few seconds for the switch to be deemed safe, before driving off. That’s why people can’t open the doors. The Luas has already started moving and only paused for the switch; it wasn’t waiting for more passengers.
Yeah, they have a sign to this effect – the trains and Luas are not synched up, don’t compare timetables, don’t wait for one another; if they are synched, it’s a coincidence. Very annoying but not a failure on the driver’s behalf.
Irish rail go a step further and randomly cancel trains like mine to Hazelhatch last night, 40 mins until the next, dinner late for everyone,no evening run for me, no explanation, no warning, fuppers
I don’t think 12 mins between trams and buses is good enough for peak time traffic.
I get the Luas from Broombridge. I agree with 12 mins between trams from Broombridge is not good enough with the amount of people getting on from Cabra, Finglas, train and bus (40e). As Bruncvik says, the train pulls in and it is standing room only on the Luas before it even departs.
But in regards to departure, I think the Luas drivers are trained to stick to their own timetable no matter if a train or bus pulls in. When it gets to Parnell stop in town, there is only 2/3 mins between each tram so they have to hit their mark and can’t delay.
Also a huge annoyance for me at Broombridge is, as a pedestrian walking in there is no way to tell if the tram is leaving in 1 minute or 10 minutes, so I end up running like a lunatic across the carpark to jump on and have to sit there panting & unfit while we go nowhere for 10 minutes; morto. Please put a departure board somewhere visible from the entrance. And sort out better footpaths in and out, its car centric.
Seems reasonable the Luas should move off on schedule. Otherwise, given Ireland it would never move off with gobdaws holding the door open for a friend getting out of bed etc.
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