57 thoughts on “Saturday’s Papers

    1. MaryLou's ArmaLite

      Lest we forget SF/IRAs involvement in the murder of scores of innocence people.

      Remember a vote for SF/IRA is a vote for murder

      1. GiggidyGoo

        CTRL+V obviously still working on your keyboard. ROFL.
        A vote for FF is a vote for FG
        A vote for FG is a vote for FF
        A vote for labour is wasted.

          1. Cian

            This bit i presume.
            “The caretaker Government has taken steps to introduce temporary emergency measures that Sinn Féin has long advocated should be permanent ones in tackling the many crises that we face, including freezing rents, establishing a single-tier health system and providing childcare as a public service.”

          2. Clampers Outside

            Reads like SF are comparing normal day to day to the current emergency… And then saying “See! we wuz right”.
            If that’s it, its opportunistic politicking and dumb as a bag of hammers.

      2. scottser

        Your interpretation of history is facile and insulting. Jog on back to the journal please.

  1. some old queen

    Doctors around the world say hydroxychloroquine, which was touted by Trump, is the best treatment they’ve used on coronavirus patients in survey of 6,200 medics

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8184997/Doctors-worldwide-say-malaria-drug-best-coronavirus-treatment.html

    I find it interesting how many people allowed their judgement to be clouded just because they didn’t want Trump to be right. I don’t like the man either but I knew he wasn’t putting himself on the line just because of a hunch. That Israel were flying it into the US by the planeload was a pretty good indication that he was onto something- and he was.

    It is not a cure but the earlier a patient starts treatment the better- no word of it in the Irish MSM of course.

    1. Formerly Known As @ireland.com

      Trump didn’t think of it. He was just spouting his usual drivel. Some medic mentioned it to him. I doubt he was meant to broadcast it.

  2. Some old queen

    Broadband engineers threatened due to 5G coronavirus conspiracies – Guardian

    Popular petition to block roll out due to health conspiracy deleted to stop spread of misinformation- Independent

    ‘Conspiracy theorists BURN 5G masts’ as UK mobile network providers are forced to deny ‘baseless’ claims that ‘radiation sparked coronavirus’ as they spread online- Daily Mail.

    Propaganda at its finest. Not one of these papers explain that the reason this conspiracy theory is becoming so widespread is because the Telecoms companies are acting under the cover of lock down to install military grade technology.

    If governments genuinely believe that this is essential work while the rest of us are under near house arrest- then let them explain why.

    The good side of this behaviour is that more people will become aware of the risks of 5G of course.

    5G Wireless Safety – Former President of Microsoft Canada Frank Clegg & 5G 4G 3G Technologies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4TdY344Now

      1. some old queen

        So Frank Clegg, former President of Microsoft Canada- is a conspiracy nut now is he?

        One thing I really would like to know- when I was in my teens and twenties, the young Left were anti establishment and anti authority to the core. Now, they are the ones supporting big telecom and big pharma and wanting to muzzle everyone- how did that happen?

          1. Pat Mustard

            Public health is irrelevant.

            In terms of science, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to look at a radiation spectrum chart and notice 5g right next to gamma radiation to be able to comprehend if its safe or not.

            Do you feel safe living with gamma rats wario?

          2. some old queen

            When it comes to public health policies on radiation, the advice is already coming from the tech sector- where else is it supposed to come from? Problem is, those individuals are bought and paid for by the telecoms industry.

            Israel has already banned WiFi in kindergartens and have advised that where possible, all devices should be wired in schools- IMO they are 100% right.

            Bottom line is- 5G has not been proven safe but if you can provide links to academic studies saying otherwise, feel free to post. But you won’t- because you are bluffing.

          3. D

            It’s kind of hard to do a study to prove/disprove ‘scientifically’ that something breaks the (current) laws of physics. If 5g or the frequencies that it used actually caused tumours, it would require new physics and biology to explain why. Mustard is way off base with the gamma rays comment as 5g etc are in the non ionizing part of the spectrum.

            Here’s and enjoyable article or two
            http://www.howtogeek.com/423720/how-worried-should-you-be-about-the-health-risks-of-5g/

            http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48616174

          4. Cian

            SOQ you can’t prove anything is safe.
            Safe is just an absence of harm – and you can’t prove a negative.

            The naysayers need to provide evidence of harm.

          5. class wario

            hahaha, some 5g crackpot asking me for scientific studies on how 5g is safe…while putting forward youtube videos of some guy (he used to work for Microsoft!) as his own ‘proof’

          6. Cian

            @Pat Mustard
            Gamma rays? Seriously?
            Don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry!

          7. Pat Mustard

            @ Cian

            You have no idea what you’re talking about.

            I don’t care how angry you get. It doesn’t change facts.

          8. Some old queen

            @ Cian- ‘safe’ is a relative term and you bloody well know it.

            After this virus thing is over, make no mistake, if there is new microwave cookers appearing anywhere near schools then the councillors responsible will be offering their balls (and ovaries) for earrings.

            I repeat- this sort of installation under a lockdown is unacceptable.

          9. Some old queen

            @D

            Never before has the human race been exposed to such levels of radiation over such a prolonged period of time. No one really knows what effects that will have and sadly, it may take many years to find out, by which time it will be too late.

            This by an industry which regulates itself and doesn’t even need planning permission to install these things. Never mind your howtogeek googling- here is the real deal- Letters From Scientists On The Health Risk Of 5G.
            https://ehtrust.org/small-cells-mini-cell-towers-health-letters-scientists-health-risk-5g/

          10. D

            > Thank you for signing the International Appeal to Stop 5G on Earth and in Space. Your signature has been received.

            You can also:

            Send the Appeal to all your contacts,
            asking them to sign.

            I signed it there myself, I gave your name and told them I had a PhD from Queens in Belfast.

            Deadly. All lies of course, I can sign it a few more times if you like.

    1. V

      Just so that ye know
      I’m all 5G’d up here in D12

      So I’m obviously radio active and can read your mind
      And control your voicemails, toasters and immersion tanks
      (ʘ言ʘ╬)

  3. millie aka oprah

    Admin, please – this is my second request on this now – can you clarify why my comments are going into moderation/not appearing? It seems to be only when I attach a link to a post, as per my two comments on Nick’s voucher post, and here, where I posted a link to a podcast in response to soq’s comment. Thanks in advance.

    1. D

      When I find myself in trouble, what I do is paste a bit out of the link with apologies to the source, that way the robots don’t come after me.

        1. V

          Nah
          Forget robots Mill

          Remotely controlled and monitored artificially intelligenced long life vibrators Mill

          (◠‿◕)

          1. V

            Well aren’t I the lucky one then

            And because I’m running on gamma rays now
            I can see through all yere clothes

            Or should that be gemma rays Same’Oh (◠‿◕)

            Btw Bruddar
            I don’t know why you’re so cocky and full of yourself (ب_ب)

      1. scottser

        I email pictures of my jiggly bits to BS admin, that usually gets me out of moderation

      1. millie aka oprah

        It was the David McWilliams podcast, where he interviews Prof. Luke O’Neill about coronavirus, roughly a month ago now. It was very interesting, though most of the info is out of date now simply because we know so much more about the virus now than we did then, but, if I remember correctly, he does mention hydroxychloroquine and the success that the Chinese had with more severe cases. Of course its only a brief mention so may not even be worth a listen now.

  4. GiggidyGoo

    So, in general, what’s going to change once this pandemic retreats? Here’s my twoppenceworth….

    a) 3rd level education now has been proven to be able to be done from home online in some subject areas ( omputer science for example). With proper organization, lectures can be listened to remotely. If attendance is required for some lectures, then organize them for a set day each week. The travel expense to attend (and even an overnight expense) would be cheaper than accommodation? Same with exams. And that would free up accommodation for other uses.
    b) Businesses buying from China will probably look seriously at buying in, say, Europe even if costs are higher. The advantage would be quick supply, smaller outlay of funds in advance – cash flow (due to ordering more often but less outlay each transaction enabling sales to finance supply) and better quality. And supporting our european colleagues.
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    In the meantime, yesterday, the EU has shelved for a while, the duties and VAT on certain medical equipment / PPE, which will reduce the cost to importers by 23 to 45 % depending on the goods.

    1. V

      Heh?

      Only Ireland / Minister for Finance by way of a bill to the Dáil can change our VAT regs, conditions and rates
      Same for any other form of taxation, duty and levy

      Did I miss something?

      BTW
      In this case it would be VAT on point of entry
      If indeed the purchase (s) were already VAT free but were VAT’able items here in this duristiction

    1. V

      That’s nice

      Still needs the permission of the Dáil to stop Revenue / Customs lashing on Duty and what have ya

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