Meanwhile, At The Four Courts


This morning.

The Four Courts, Dublin 1.

Gemma O’Doherty and John Waters arriving at the Four Courts today for a High Court action challenging the State over the introduction of Covid-19 restrictions.

With a heavy garda presence outside and around the Four Courts in Dublin, supporters were prevented from joining Ms O’Doherty and Mr Waters inside the building.

The two have launched a legal challenge against the State over its decision to implement ‘unconstitutional’ emergency restrictions in response to the Covid-19 pandemic


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58 thoughts on “Meanwhile, At The Four Courts

  1. Chris

    Mary Contrary, Mr Scarecrow and the beige clown army. Some precession, nice day out for them, bless.

    1. SOQ

      No matter which way this case goes, for O’Doherty and Waters it is a win-win,

      When the full cost of this lock down comes in, by that I mean- welfare bill- bankruptcies- property crash- unemployment- cost of private hospitals never used- treatment of old people in nursing homes- death toll and illness due to lack of other health care- hundreds if not thousands of SMEs going to the wall- ‘I told you so’ will be their slogan.

      In the meantime- MSM is forced to cover the story and their public profile gets substantially raised.

      1. millie in quarantine

        Their name is muck now. I don’t think you could, by any stretch of the imagination, call it ‘win-win’.

        O’Doherty’s hectoring of the Gardaí a few weeks ago was absolutely farcical. She’s nothing but a joke.

        1. SOQ

          I am only outlining what I see as the strategy here Millie.

          The fallout from this lock down is going to make politics as unpredictable as the virus itself- especially if it pans out to be no more contagious than the flu- which is looking likely. Anyone who can point to their position of opposition at the time, will benefit.

          1. Tinytim

            There are several reports which show a significant increase in overall death rates in multiple countries. Slice and dice as you like; but that is the evidence you ignore.

          2. SOQ

            Slice and dice means FG supporters would be most likely to shove their parents into private nursing homes surely?

      2. Charlie

        They’re nothing but a joke and will forever be considered weirdo caricatures. They’ll become a cliche and never be taken seriously.

  2. Father Filth

    Nasty so and so.. always love seeing someone in their 30s, who side with her and share her ‘views’, gabbing on about the, ‘rare old times/back when it was normal/proper etc..’

    What pisses me off is the use of the Irish flag, scratch under the very thin veneer of patriotism and you get a very animated group of right leaning conspirational dullards.

    Poo poo John Waters too.. and the horse he rode in on..

    Stay safe, wash your hands. Be mindful of those who might be at higher risk.

  3. Pr Feen

    I thought Waters was moving to Spain because of the Abortion referendum result?

  4. Scundered

    Is that Vincent Browne in the top photo? :)

    It’s so annoying that in the early days I thought Gemma might be a good thing, how wrong I was, anyone else got a bit of Gemma shame?

    1. Chris

      How dare you! Don’t you know who she is? You’ll soon be reminded who your masters are!

    2. Fergalito

      Yeah, me too around the time of the Garda penalty points and INM to-do. Since then she has plummeted in my estimation. Anyone in fairness can define what their versions of patriotism might be but I despair where those self-defined patriots choose to include me in their dim assertions about reclaiming Ireland for the people and all that ballyhoo. Her choice of language in using the term “masters” as in “you’ll know who your masters are” is revealing. Likewise the venom with which she threatens what will happen to those who do not meet with her favour. Very patriarchal, old testament type of tyrant. The irony considering she bandies the sleight “Gestapo” around so freely. Emptiest vessels make the most noise and all that. Confederacy of dunces also springs to mind but sure let her at it.

  5. Finnster

    I don’t hate Gemma. There, I’ve said it. I disagree with much of what she says but I also see someone who has good reason not to trust the state after all she has been through. She was shafted by DO’B media and the Gardai when she tried to expose the state’s hideousness and corruption. I don’t think you necessarily need to take sides here. It’s okay to acknowledge the good she has done, while also not agreeing with some of her opinions. She at least has the courage of her convictions.

    1. Chris

      I’m sure the lovely bi-racial couple she slurred, abused online and lodged a case suing them in turn for complaining about it, agree with your balanced view point.

    2. Scundered

      When I hear her now I just see a woman going through a slow mental breakdown in public, it’s sad to watch.

      1. MaryLou's ArmaLite

        Yeah, she’s spent the best part of a decade getting shafted by the her employer, the Gardai, the media, she had some vindication in court but the damage was done.

        It does not excuse her behaviour, but I’m not sure she can help herself.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        You know Daithi, bringing Fiona O’Leary into this discussion isn’t a great move now is it? You’ll get a long list of quotes from her (FO’L) that doesn’t paint her that well.

        1. Ghost of Yep

          Who she is is irrelevant in fairness. If you have questionable quotes from the kids you might have a point.

          1. GiggidyGoo

            Hard to follow your post. The point i’m making is that if someone thinks GO’D is away with the fairies, bringing any mention of FO’D is hair kari.

          2. ReproBertie

            So it would be OK to bring it up if she had called someone else’s autistic kids “vegetables”?

          3. GiggidyGoo

            That’s scraping the end of the barrel to try construct a reply to my post. Even for you.

          4. Ghost of Yep

            Repro was just clarifying what I was trying to say.

            Who the kids parent is does not take away from how terrible the comments about those kids are. Get me?

  6. Kate

    She was right about the penalty points, right about disgraced Martin Callinan, Shane o Farrell, Jim Goonan, Limerick missing men, Shane Tuohy – all grateful for exposure when other journalists shied away initially from questioning the states handling of their cases. And no one batted an eye lid when disgraced Dave Taylor had private meeting with Indo to express outrage at her reporting Callinan had penalty points swiped –and then she loses her job through unfair dismissal? And at the Charlton tribunal Paul Williams took a swipe at her. “an investigative reporter if that’s what you call her” he remarked in the witness box. The very man who did a hatchet job on Maurice Mc Cabe? I have a level of sympathy for her & am not joining the Judgement Club.

    1. ReproBertie

      Did she have a point when she challenged the Halal butcher for not selling pork sausages? Did she have a point when she spread a photo of school children in Longford across social media?

      1. Kate

        It raised questions that I don’t have the answers to in respect of Halal butchers….are they discriminating against those that want rashers , bacon , sausages? If a cake shop refuses to bake and ice a gay cake they are accused of discrimination so are Halal butchers discriminating against pork consumers? As for photo of schoolchildren in Longford – certainly insensitive to innocent children- no, I would not agree with G. I believe all the children have a home and a lovely local school . I would have issue with the promised extra million in next 20 years though –on today’s homeless figures and 4,000 in hotel rooms –it’s bonkers.

        1. Brian

          It’s not discrimination if a shop doesn’t actually sell the product in the first place! Shopkeepers have a right to stock whatever they like. However they couldn’t deny me service or refuse to sell me things they do have in stock based on my religion or sexual orientation.

          My local Des Kelly’s doesn’t open on Sundays for religious reasons – is it discriminating against non-Christians? As far as I’m concerned they can open whenever they like but if I need a vital bit of carpet or urgently require a bedside locker on a Sunday I will shop elsewhere.

          It seems sometimes that GO’D is obsessed with the overarching power of the State but then wants the State to micromanage and regulate the lives of minority groups she has a problem with.

          1. SOQ

            Actually if you are gay he probably would refuse to serve you- the Muslims don’t have a great track record on that front.

        2. ReproBertie

          “It raised questions that I don’t have the answers to in respect of Halal butchers….are they discriminating against those that want rashers , bacon , sausages?”
          I can answer that question for you right now, no they are not. Also, Italian restaurants are not discriminating against those who want Mexican food.

    2. Daisy Chainsaw

      Is she right about 5G, vaccines, chemtrails, google’s mind control dust, plandemics, Irish purity?

      1. GiggidyGoo

        She doesn’t have to be correct about everything Daisy. Was she incorrect about what Kate has listed?

          1. GiggidyGoo

            Odd statement, given that it was her investigative journalism that brought those things out in the open and not as a result of being ‘right twice’

          2. Daisy Chainsaw

            Kate copy/pasted some stuff from 5Gem’s website. She wrote some articles in relation to some of these cases, but if you google the names without her name you’ll find other people were involved long before she wrote about them. The families of Mary Boyle and Fr Molloy have distanced themselves from her. She’s not the journalistic saviour her fans think she is.

          3. Daisy Chainsaw

            Horrible people do good things sometimes, it doesn’t mean they’re not horrible. 5Gem writing about Maurice McCabe doesn’t make her less of a racist or anything remotely close to a decent human being. A friend’s rapist used the fact that he wrote schoolbooks to mitigate against him being a serial paedophile. Somethings just can’t be balanced.

  7. RuilleBuille

    I did wonder when she was unfairly dismissed by the Indo why not one journalist spoke up in her favour. Now we know.

    1. Lilly

      Do we? Garda-lovin’ dolt, Stephen Rae, thought he was running the Gestapo. Didn’t exactly leave room for dissenting voices.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        Was probably that there was really only one true journalist in the Indo – the rest a bunch of lackeys.

  8. Gabby

    Comment writers in threads like this love venting their politics of resentment at each other. All they are thereby proving is that they despise each other. Better to spend time cooking breakfast, cultivating the garden or listening to soothing music.

      1. Papi

        You do realise that you say that so often you should maybe have a look at how you behave. There’s a saying that if five people say you look sick, you should lie down.
        But by all means, say it again.

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