Tried my best while watching the TV news but didn’t see a single cop in London protected by just a Hi-Viz vest and baseball cap take a knee today.
And all those on Twitter outraged by the ‘thuggery’ were somehow strangely quiet last weekend.
Funny dat.
SOQ
Gandhi is a racist now apparently.
jamesjoist
Isn’t it gas all the same , Johnson condemning the racist thuggery on which his beloved British Empire was built.
Charger Salmons
Of course if you get your news from the broadcasting arm of the Labour Party,the BBC, you’ll learn that yesterday’s “violent London protests” resulted in 6 police officers being injured, while last weekend’s “largely peaceful protests” left 27 police officers injured.
Even funnier dat.
“Proposals to allow people to Self ID to be abandoned” in UK.
Ban on “Gay Cure” or so called conversion therapies.
Women’s spaces under the Equalities Act to be reaffirmed.
A good day for common sense.
BS
Now if only we could have the current legislation here reviewed.
Nigel
Isn’t it weird how, five years after the Gender Recognition Act, absolutely nothing bad seems to have happened as a result?
Nigel
A vulnerable minority being hounded and villified and stripped of hard-won rights and protections. Good job.
Nigel
Don’t forget to applaud Trump who just repealed Obama-era protections for trans people seeking health care, though of caurse he’s been steadily working to make it legal to discrminate against lgbt folks all along, so well done that guy.
Clampers Outside
Your suggestion re Trump is yours, and simply you equating Self ID with Health Care… which is stupid beyond belief.
Self ID was never won as a right. No protections or rights were hard-won because they were not there.
If you wish for me to comment on the US situation, please provide a link as I am not up on that, and I’ll take a look when I can, thanks.
In the meantime, stick your Trump-rage where the sun doesn’t shine….
Your tantrum is pathetic. Non-TRA Activist trans persons are celebrating, and good for them, regardless of what you think.
Nigel
Literally denying that trans people have a right to self-id. This has ramifications at almost every level of their lives, including health care. Anyone with half a brain and a shred of decency can spot this is the thin end of a big anti-lgtb wedge.
For someone so laser-foccused on trans issues, you’re remarkably ignorant about trans issues.
Clampers Outside
Medical treatments for men and women vary massively in ma y areas of medicine. Self ID’ing as x when one is y is not going to benefit the patient.
Self ID does not change one’s biology. Your argument is simply silly. Stupid even.
jamesjoist
Can we blame Harry Potter for this ?
Clampers Outside
They see him Rowling, shaken that a….
Nigel
Allowing people to self-id as the gender that matches their gender dysphoria seems like literally the very least that could be done to help them and acknowledge them, and witholding that right is an act of such petty meanness and spite it’s hard to believe oh no, wait, it’s not hard to believe at all.
Clampers Outside
Sure Nigel, kids and adults who want to be able to go to the toilet or the pool or compete in sports, etc. and have sex segregated privacy and fair competition do so out of spite…
Are you that convinced you and the TRAs are not the spiteful ones in fairness…. Clearly you are locked into this anti-science ideological postmodernist echo chamber. Deluded by the ideology even… Pitiful…
SOQ
WRONG- the self-ID crew do not accept that you need to have gender dysphoria in order to be Trans- that is the whole point?
Nigel
Hard to see how anyone who would exclude trans girls from girl’s toilets and expose them to danger by forcing them to use the boys’ isn’t operating out of anything but hatred.
Yeah, SOQ, given the current atmosphere I can see people lining up to claim to be trans when they are not.
SOQ
Cross-Dresser
Drag King
Drag Queen
Gender Fluid
Nonconforming
Non-binary
Genderqueer
Intersex
and this list goes on and on.
NONE of which are transgender and most of which look and act exactly the same as before- but all claim to be Trans?
Self-ID means I can wake up tomorrow morning and declare that I am a woman- I don’t even have to shave my 7 day facial hair growth.
That is not advancing the cause of gay people and it is most definitely not advancing the cause of REAL transgenders.
Nigel
All of those have been around forever, it’s just that some of them have recently acquired names. If you’re arguing against inclusivity in a community that share certain traits, well, go ahead, but it’s hardly the end of the bloody world.
If a man decides to declare himself a woman even though they aren’t trans – that’s not the fault of trans people. That’s a problem with non-trans men. Creating bogeymen to scare people with isn’t helping anyone, at all.
SOQ
Forever? LOL Drag maybe but no most have not and they are coming up with new ones all the time. It’s just silly and IMO very disrespectful when they try to speak on behalf of people who really are transgender.
You can now be fully a transitioned transgender AND be transphobic according to these militant ejits.
SOQ
Self ID does nothing for transgender people Nigel- they still have to go through the same hoops before transitioning. It does however, allow any individual the right to identify as the opposite gender without ever any intention of even dressing as such- which is why some transgender people also object to it.
This is what the parody woke account https://twitter.com/JarvisDupont is about. A ‘woman’ with a beard who gets annoyed when lesbians reject ‘her’ advances.
Nigel
Oh, I bet there are some transgender people who object. But not most. Such a simple little thing to deny them out of, what, spite? Fear? Yeah, the image of a ‘woman with a beard’ demanding lesbians accept their advances seems like the perfect parody of that fear and spite.
Clampers Outside
“But not most” is a claim based on what exactly? The volume of noise made by activists? It’d be ridiculous if that is it, if not, please do elaborate the basis of such a claim.
Clampers Outside
The teenage girl, 13, that one her case to be able to go to a bathroom that is for girls….. She fought for that out of “spite” did she?
You’re so ridiculous at this point, it beggars belief.
SOQ
They object because they find it offensive to who and what they are?
Any transgender I know fully accept they have gender dysphoria and their goal is to transition their body to as close to their internal gender as they can get. That is both physically and emotionally a long and sometimes painful journey, which any decent person should appreciate.
Which is very different to this new breed with twenty odd labels and pronouns which would take a week to memorize who in the main have no intention of ever actually doing anything about changing their gender.
Nigel
If ‘some’ object it seems a safe assumption that ‘most’ do not.
So, what, she wanted to exclude trans girls? That does sound spiteful, actually.
SOQ – so, out of spite for the ‘new breed.’ Got it.
Clampers Outside
Sex rights and wanting them maintained is spiteful….
Have you any idea how misogynist you are. I doubt it…
Nigel
Not sure such an entrenched and committed anti-feminist as yourself would know misogyny if it came up and told you to get in the kitchen and make it a sandwich.
Clampers Outside
Rallying against the misandry entrenched in some feminist theory and practice is something I will never be ashamed of. There are also many feminists who argue as I do, people who believe in genuine equality.
SOQ
No Nigel you’ve got nothing.
If you can’t be bothered finding out how many different categories there now are under the Trans Umbrella- I suggest you stop trowing insults around just because it doesn’t suit your limited knowledge on the subject.
Do you even know anyone who is transgender?
Nigel
Annoyance with people having a multiplicity of categories isn’t going to win any sympathy from me and is no justification for anything, frankly, other than telling the kids to get off your lawn. Yes, I know a number of trans people, young and old. I also know a number of people who find all those sub-categories that rile you up useful for exploring their own sexual identity, too, and gaining confidence from it. In a live and let live world we’d leave them to it and refrain from mockery and contempt.
Clampers Outside
I don’t think SOQ, and I know I, would be happy to leave them to it. But they don’t leaa e it there when demands for Self ID tto be given equal access to sex segregated spaces.
…very good Nigel…not often you provide the laughs but that misogyny line was excellent…
Nigel
Exactly, Clamps, you’re an absolute sucker for any revisionist reactionary anti-feminist anti-trans nonsense that comes along.
Clampers Outside
“revisionist”? There’s not hi g revisionist about it.
Again, you’re just throwing any old accusation out at this point. You are being ridiculous.
Nigel
Trans people have had access to sex-segregated spaces since forever. Forcing them out of them puts them at risk of their lives, not to mention exposing women who appear androgynous or ‘mannish’ to harassment. It would be repressive and transphobic (and misogynist – nobody seems to give a flying feck about trans men using male spaces) and an absolute triumph for the hard-core religious right.
Clampers Outside
Again, you are equating self ID as trans. See SOQ’s previous comment on that silliness.
Self ID’ing persons have not had access since forever to sex segregated spaces.
Where the heck did you pull that one out of?
Seriously I’d love to hear a response to that.
Nigel
No, i said I think trans people should have the right to self-id, and trans people have had access to sex-segregated spaces forever, if you’re not going to read my comments you should probably go wander off and shout at cows about how all feminists hate men or whatever it is.
Clampers Outside
Trans persons who have transitioned are not affected by the abandonment of Self ID.
Tassie was the last Aussie state to leglise homosexuality. They are leading the way on this. Good on them.
I am with Nigel on this (as I seem to be on everything he comments on).
Clampers Outside
That’s fine, I’m talking about sex.
Bertie Theodore Alphege Blenkinsop
… all the good things, and the bad things, that may be?
Clampers Outside
:0)
SOQ
There is not a set correlation between the trans issue and gay rights. Some countries which are are deeply homophobic like Iran and Pakistan have a much less repressive view of trans people.
Clampers Outside
+1
In Iran gay men and women are forced to transition.
Nigel
Just to check, but you do realise that such a barbaric practice would have absolutely nothing to do with trans people, right?
Clampers Outside
Yes. Follow the comment thread, you’ll see why the comment was made. Go straight to SOQ’s.
Nigel
This is the second time I’ve seen the two of you bring this up in the context of anti-trans comments, as if it’s a critique of trans people rather than the regimes. Perhaps you should be careful to distinguish it from your other, ant-trans, comments, or they might all blend together.
Clampers Outside
Name one comment I’ve made that is anti-trans… Or that SOQ has made….
Nigel
Every comment you have made here is in approval and support of two anti-trans measures.
Clampers Outside
You’re clearly not reading who has been fighting to stop this, as per my original link, and SOQs further comments, all of which are trans arguments by trans people.
Nigel
Oh, so trans people are greeting these measures with open arms? They’re delighted and fully supportive? All of them? Most of them? Some of them? A handful? Absolutely no pushback from trans people at all? Along with a few gay men like SOQ who despise the ‘new breed?’
Clampers Outside
No one said all of them, but hey, you do you, you do your silly. No one will ever take that from you.
Nigel
Yes, you were very vague about the degree of support or opposition from trans people, that’s literally why I was asking.
Nigel
Well at the moment there *seems* to be way more hate and repression directed towards trans in the UK and the US, and maybe even here, than towards lgb, that’s no reason not to keep them linked, out of solidarity if out of nothing else.
Clampers Outside
Many gay men and women in the UK have said they’ve had enough of the homophobic activism from TRAs and many have decided enough is enough and are splitting from the T. See what’s happening re Stonewall UK for example.
Nigel
‘Many.’ Yeah, sure. Using transphobia to split the lgbt movement was a genius idea, wherever it came from, and it might even work.
Clampers Outside
It was TRA homophobia that lead to the split. Do keep up.
Daisy Chainsaw
That’s because they can no longer discriminate against the LGB part of the acronym, but the T part can be treated like a black person in 1950s America and forced to use a different bathroom to their “betters”.
Clampers Outside
Bullpoo, that’s a ridiculous equivocation.
Clampers Outside
Damn autocorrect… ^equivalence
Nigel
And people who are trans AND black seem to have it incredibly bad, but yeah, it’s great news that they can soon be excluded from the few safe places thay can currently go.
Clampers Outside
WTF are you on now…. What places are they, Self ID persons, being excluded from that they already could go to?
Nigel
Clampers, there hasn’t been a split. A few transphobic lgbs or whatever dropping the t do not a split make. A splinter, maybe. A token, almost, one might say.
Clampers Outside
One of the main fou ders of Stonewall has broken away… and set up a separate group that isn’t homophobic. You just ignore that if you so desire.
Nigel
So, are the people who didn’t break away all homophobes then?
Clampers Outside
Here, educate yourself on the split. This is an interview with Simon Fanshawe before the breakaway org was set up…
In a topsy turvy world it’s good to some pigeons back on the front page of the Star. Dead, it has to be said, and in tragic circumstances, so we can feel sad for them.
jamesjoist
Maybe ‘ Herself ‘ was getting to old to cleaning out the loft .
GiggidyGoo
Some light show last night Clampers?
Steph Pinker
… lightning isn’t unique to Wexfard and Waaherford you know!
GiggidyGoo
Well, I never experienced anything like it to be honest.
Charger Salmons
Today in 1982 Argentine forces in the Falklands surrendered to British forces.
Maggie Thatcher’s stunning gamble to send a naval task force around the world ended the Falklands War in just 10 weeks and put the jumped-up dictator Galtieri back in his box.
I shall be raising a glass to the 255 British military personnel who lost their lives and the 649 mainly conscripted Argies who paid an equally heavy price for their General’s foolishness.
Today fishing and oil exploration is proving highly lucrative to the local economy and Falklanders have consistently and overwhelmingly voted to remain party of Blighty.
Huzzah !
Nigel
One last spasm of empire.
Charger Salmons
Think of the Falklands as Ireland’s Rockall.
Oh,hang on minute,it’s not …
Nigel
Think of Rockall as the British Emprie.
Charger Salmons
Think of Rockall as another insignficant rock in the British Isles.
Like Ireland.
Nigel
I never think of the British Isles at all.
Johnny
Its a settler colony, at that time with less than 2,000 people, cost the Brits over 2 Billion,if you’d simply given them 1 million each you’d have been a lot better off.The real ‘cost’ was Iraq as you owed the yanks for the intel and air support,any sign that aircraft carrier….
That war also gave voice to the nasty, intolerant British nationalism that has you today alone, isolated,broke and facing into the abyss.
Charger Salmons
I hear the American troops have been very grateful over the years for the chance to stretch their legs and have a crafty fag at Shannon Airport.
Johnny
….one day my prince will…
“Prince Andrew yet again sought to falsely portray himself to the public as eager and willing to co-operate. The prince has not given an interview to federal authorities, has repeatedly declined our request to schedule such an interview, and informed us unequivocally that he would not come in for such an interview,” Geoffrey Berman told the newspaper.”
Makes you wonder if there is anything in his former navy career being managed similarly by Prince Andrew and the family business at the palace
Or is it just me
Johnny
….me sweat-im not sweating, you are….
“There’s a slight problem with, with, with, with the sweating,” Andrew then told the BBC’s Emily Maitlis. “Because I have a peculiar medical condition, which is that I don’t sweat, or I didn’t sweat at the time … because I had suffered what I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War when I was shot at.”
Did you see the paedophile scandal about Uncle Mount Batten and the Kincora Boys Home and how it was used by the British State to spy on/recruit operatives for the State?
It’s a real horror house of abuse and should be well documented by this stage. Why not I wonder?
@Nigel will you be tuning into this on the BBC? ;)
Still waiting on the evidence of Novichok being used to be sent to the European governments that requested it btw. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52962640
For anyone who hasn’t been following the Skripal affair, the Brits have attempted to use a false flag operation on their own people, in their own country, to justify an attack on Russian and Syrian forces in Syria, back in 2018 similar to the way the White Helmets were used in Syria since 2012.
I personally can’t wait until all the dots are joined and the truth is given the light of day.
There are only a few working on it, but they are very committed and the scandal will be fully exposed eventually.
Johnny
..when was this the 1950’s or the 60’s its June 2020 – your like that Japanese soldier who hid in the jungle for 40 years after WW2 fighting for his emperor…
“The two old men apparently declared they were soldiers, and the story they told when they emerged from the dense jungle of a Philippine island was yesterday the talk of the nation they claimed to have fought for.
According to reports, the Japanese men, who are both in their 80s, said they had been hiding on the island of Mindanao, which is 600 miles from Manila, since before the end of the second world war.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/may/28/secondworldwar.japan
Pedo’s,murdering,kneecappings,get some fresh air find some spirituality man,smoke some great weed but chill the F out and stay as far away as you can from my posts, going for a shower now after interacting…
italia'90
Dear Admin,
Can you please explain to the most vile and ABUSIVE poster here on Broadsheet that because there are subtle, not so obvious editing biases, as some posters are on longer naughty steps than others, that sometimes the thread directory does not branch in real time, but chronologically.
My comment was in response to V’s comment.
Yours had not appeared on here when I posted.
I have absolutely no intention of ever communicating with a creepy, disgusting, abusive, nationalist and faux-republican like you unless I have to, like now for instance.
Johnny
…oh doesn’t look like she’s responding either, and yeah good luck with the complaints dept. with your contributions on here its sure to be a top priority, still can’t figure out why SF booted you out….
Would this be the 80 seat majority-holding and 162 seats ahead of Labour and still leading them in the polls flubbering haystack ?
Boris is box office.
He’ll wipe the floor with Max Headroom in four years time
…a few more Exocets and the Falklands would have been consigned to history…they may yet be…Viva Malvinas…
Charger Salmons
I see your Exocets and raise you a nuclear sub.
Amazing the fear instilled with one of them up your jacksie…
GiggidyGoo
Aye, but where will you park the nuclear sub when Scotland jettisons the UK?
Papi
Charger, please, no descriptions of your love life.
Charger Salmons
Interestingly the defeat of Galtieri in the Falklands led directly to the fall of the military junta and the restoration of democracy in Argentina.
I love their steaks too.
public prefer Leo ? did I miss another vote, what a load of toss
GiggidyGoo
862 people surveyed. Online Poll. As accurate as any of the B&A or Red C polls then. Then again, it’s a poll asking preferences between two people. Note that 35% couldn’t give a duck.
It’s like asking a person on death row what method of death they’d like. Electrocution or injection. Two choices, the same result One may be less painful to put up with.
Does anyone believe that there in the Sunday Times
’bout the Irish Government asking the UK & US for dig out with Kinihan
I don’t
Big time boxing sounds like the home ground of Money Laundering to me, and this lad didn’t just walk straight up to its top table and take a seat
It’ll be AMl/CTF legislation that’ll deal with that lad when his time comes
Fake outrage all over the shop on this new business direction for the Kinihan empire
Tom
I see the “Irish” Mail on Sunday have yet another British Royal Family photo on their front page. They really are more like an English paper now. They are showing minimal support of Irish writers, photographers, etc.
scottser
You must feel like posting this same comment every Sunday is some sort of duty.
Tom
No, I just find it extraordinary that a so called Irish paper keeps putting pictures of members of the British Royal Family on its front pages i.e. Megan Markle, Prince Harry, Kate Middleton, etc. They even had Boris Johnson with his new child as lead photo! Check back through their front pages (easy to do on the Internet nowadays) Irish pictures are few and far between. Do you not think this is odd, for an Irish paper?
Charger Salmons
Perhaps if you bought the newspaper instead of relying on free Irish content on the internet then the Mail might employ more Irish journalists to bring you more Irish stories?Journalism doesn’t come cheap.
GiggidyGoo
The bean savage ‘journalists’ must write their articles on the back of their Little Chef receipts.
Charger Salmons
The Daily Mail Group made profits of £145million on revenues of £1.4billion last year.
I wouldn’t worry about them.
Tom
As I said I did buy it in the past, when there was mostly Irish content. The circulation figures last month they sold around 22,000 per day, if you take out the Saturday sales they sell 20,000 a day. They sold 50,000+ up until recently. Why have their sales collapsed? Not having much Irish content is largely the reason.
One username please
Personally, I have no interest whatsoever in Megan Markle. She’s just an attention seeker in my opinion. Don’t know why MOS seem obsessed with writing stories on her. Non event.
Daisy Chainsaw
They hate her because she’s an uppity black woman… and she’s sueing them.
Kate
Excellent Giggidy – your comment cheered me up ,”the nasty piece of work” will take the needle no doubt.
SOQ
Another CoVid-19 outbreak (Beijing) in the proximity of meat, or in this case fish. Given the high levels of this thing in meat processing plants across the world, one has to wonder if there is a connection.
Is diet a factor in its transmission?
Rob_G
“public prefer varadkar to lead coalition” – but of course ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Johnny
Hi Rob, can you imagine the outcry if SF had murdered all those lovely grandparents,who died alone,by all accounts its a horrific death-for me as a man of faith the govt denying my grandfather the right to practice his religion and be surrounded by his family would be hard get over……not so sure when the full story of yet another murdering spree by FG is told if Leo will be held in such high esteem….
Do you think there would have been zero deaths among elderly population if SF were in charge; SF are currently in government in N.I, how is the death rate looking up there?
Johnny
Typical FG response so its a league table now is it-how is such and such doing,on a Sunday too when most Irish people are observing and the families of these murdered by FG’s negligence and misallocation of resources are mourning.
The families of these murder victims deserve the same compassion and empathy as you have shown over many many posts for the victims of the IRA in the 1970’s,oh right its not political convenient,no cheap points score huh….
Rob_G
The mere fact that you would compare a government doing their level-best (though not always succeeding) against a deadly virus, to SF/IRA’s murdering innocents in cold-blood, only serves to show how morally-bankrupt you are as a person.
Johnny
“Care Assistant reveals Criminal Neglect At Dublin Nursing Home”
-residents abandonded,left without food and water
-up to 75% of death avoidable
-residents left in inhumane conditions
-7 staff sacked after raising concerns
-HSE/HIQA Cover-up
Harrowing listen Rob,your in no position to judge ‘level best’ its way way too early to make that judgement,just listen to this..morally bankrupt indeed and there are many ‘whistleblowers’ coming forward.
There isn’t a Government in the North. There’s an Assembly. The North is governed by Westminster.
Rob_G
Tautology – they can still enact legislation (when they decide to turn up, that is). You know, like when SF voted to cut nurses’ salaries when Michelle O’Neill was minister for health.
GiggidyGoo
Again – NI is governed by Westminster. The Assembly has to enact Westminster’s legislation. Failure to do so would result in the assembly being disbanded. (You know, the self same non-Assembly you were gloating about?)
Westminster also finances NI. SF or DUP have no part to play, apart from working within the constraints of Westminster, which holds the purse strings, and decides the pay levels for its public servants.
But you know all of that – I’ve outlined it many times to you, and to Cian, when you try the diversionary tactic.
Johnny
So that’s why FG shipped those scared lonely fearful loved grandparents off to die alone,denying them their rights to practice their religion,cause SF cut nurses in NI-more whatabout…last rites please I’m observant nah sorry nana,FG says you can’t have any visitors….but I may go hell ….make sure you thank Leo when you get there nana….
Rob_G
They were not given the last rites to stop the spread of a virus, not for the craic. I’d say the 10 workers the the PIRA murdered in cold blood at Kingsmill because they were Protestants probably felt that they weren’t allowed to practice their religion, either,
GiggidyGoo
Was waiting for that Rob. You just can’t help yourself. Even MLAL gave up the byelines after Johnny pointed out the stupidity.
There is a fact that over the past 3 months, FG (Harris, Varadkar, etc) made conscious decisions to play God and end people’s lives. That’s history. Very recent history. And you’re commending that. Think about that.
Rob_G
@GiggidyGoo – I know, that’s your great get-out-of-jail card for anything related to SF abysmal record of legislating.
How can you then, on the one hand, blame the DUP for the RHI scandal if the Assembly has no autonomy and only goes through the motions enacting the will of Westminster, and at the same time let SF off the hook for all of their myriad failures in N. Ireland?
Rob_G
also @GiggidyGoo – political parties that actually go into government (rather than sit on the sidelines and sulk for three years) actually are faced with very difficult decisions, which will end up either saving or costing lives in the short run or the long run, depending if they get it right or wrong.
Johnny’s (and now your) equivocation of this with SF/PIRA’s murdering people and dumping them in shallow graves is as crass as it is idiotic.
GiggidyGoo
You must be suffering from over exposure to the sun.
The DUP – Foster at the helm – were pulled up for the Cash For Ash scandal. I’m not surprised of course that the likes of you would be prepared to turn a blind eye to it. That’s exactly how FFG works. And the usual then is the ‘look over there’ line.
And yes, I have to keep repeating so that your lies and diversions are shown up. You haven’t discounted it by the way.
You’re commending, again, Varadkar and Harris for taking decisions like forcing nursing homes to re-open. Sure why not? That’s the FG way. No surprise there.
Sure Noonan hounding of Bridget McCole pales into insignificance doesn’t it?
And despite your other attempt to divert, I didn’t bring the IRA into the discussion. That’s your hobby horse. It’s your go-to safe zone when you’re at a dead end.
Rob_G
As I’ve pointed out to you on several occasions, politicians from both the DUP and SF lobbied for the RHI scheme’s extension, so I’m not sure that it’s the ace-in-the-hole that you seem to think it is…
GiggidyGoo
Enough diversion Rob. The discussion isn’t about Northern Ireland. If that’s something you want to pursue, there’s always The Journal. You’ll be greeted with open arms there.
Rob_G
:)
When faced a point that he can’t answer, “the discussion isn’t about Northern Ireland”… bless your heart, you’ll get the hang of it someday.
GiggidyGoo
Are you really – really – that dense Rob? Really? Diversion isn’t working Rob. Cut your losses.
Rob_G
Don’t worry GG, I accept your conceding with the good grace with which is was offered.
Nothing as bad as a fool who doesn’t realize he’s a fool. Keep up the good work Rob. FG will always need apologists.
Rob_G
That’s it, you keep fighting the good fight, GG – Uncle Gerry is very proud of you.
Daisy Chainsaw
It’s like being asked if you’d prefer genital herpes to syphillis. Toryboy V Meehole? That’s not a choice, that’s a dilemma.
Rob_G
That was very droll :)
GiggidyGoo
The figure is that 28.6% who expressed a preference, was for Varadkar. 71.4% didn’t. I’m surprised Cian wasn’t on posting that.
i.e. 35% didn’t give an opinion which means that Varadkar got 44% of 65% which is 28.6% of 100%.
Even worse for Mehole, as his equates to 11.7%. Or 88.3% didn’t express a preference for him.
Nothing for either to celebrate if 71.4% don’t want Varadkar, and 88.3% don’t want Mehole.
Rob_G
“Nothing for either to celebrate if 71.4% don’t want Varadkar, and 88.3% don’t want Mehole.
That’s funny, because I seem you remember you being near-apoplectic at the notion of Mary Lou not being Taoiseach at a time when 75% of the electorate apparently didn’t want her in that position.
GiggidyGoo
No – I was answering your own ‘she only got 25%’ by pointing out to you that FF got 25% too, and FG got less. Short term memory loss Rob?
The difference here of course is that my figures above relate to just two people and the attempted spin put on it.
Two deadbeats thinking that they have something to offer, that’s Leo and Mehole.
realPolithicks
Ffs can we please get some sort of moratorium on this constant squabbling between the Clampers/SOQ tagteam and Nigel, its become tedious beyond belief.
Johnny
-what RP…here’s an extremely graphic and detailed discussion on the STD that afflicted Weinstein and the effects it had on his genitila perfect for any Sunday lunch:)
This is Graydon Carter’s new gig-founded SPY and is somewhat of a legend in NY publishing circles,last spot was editor at VF-he also own The Beatrice Inn and The Monkey Bar where all the media darlings hang-its actually quite a decent piece.
Tried my best while watching the TV news but didn’t see a single cop in London protected by just a Hi-Viz vest and baseball cap take a knee today.
And all those on Twitter outraged by the ‘thuggery’ were somehow strangely quiet last weekend.
Funny dat.
Gandhi is a racist now apparently.
Isn’t it gas all the same , Johnson condemning the racist thuggery on which his beloved British Empire was built.
Of course if you get your news from the broadcasting arm of the Labour Party,the BBC, you’ll learn that yesterday’s “violent London protests” resulted in 6 police officers being injured, while last weekend’s “largely peaceful protests” left 27 police officers injured.
Even funnier dat.
Care to back up your view that the BBC has a left wing bias? Because academic studies show it has a right wing and pro brexit bias – https://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-how-biased-is-the-bbc-17028
+1
This Jewish comedian feller called it right a few days ago.
He should do the Lotto.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1270711809905790976
He sure did.
Sunday Times UK
https://twitter.com/DebbieHayton/status/1271920934371409920?s=19
Front page….
“Proposals to allow people to Self ID to be abandoned” in UK.
Ban on “Gay Cure” or so called conversion therapies.
Women’s spaces under the Equalities Act to be reaffirmed.
A good day for common sense.
Now if only we could have the current legislation here reviewed.
Isn’t it weird how, five years after the Gender Recognition Act, absolutely nothing bad seems to have happened as a result?
A vulnerable minority being hounded and villified and stripped of hard-won rights and protections. Good job.
Don’t forget to applaud Trump who just repealed Obama-era protections for trans people seeking health care, though of caurse he’s been steadily working to make it legal to discrminate against lgbt folks all along, so well done that guy.
Your suggestion re Trump is yours, and simply you equating Self ID with Health Care… which is stupid beyond belief.
Self ID was never won as a right. No protections or rights were hard-won because they were not there.
If you wish for me to comment on the US situation, please provide a link as I am not up on that, and I’ll take a look when I can, thanks.
In the meantime, stick your Trump-rage where the sun doesn’t shine….
Your tantrum is pathetic. Non-TRA Activist trans persons are celebrating, and good for them, regardless of what you think.
Literally denying that trans people have a right to self-id. This has ramifications at almost every level of their lives, including health care. Anyone with half a brain and a shred of decency can spot this is the thin end of a big anti-lgtb wedge.
For someone so laser-foccused on trans issues, you’re remarkably ignorant about trans issues.
Medical treatments for men and women vary massively in ma y areas of medicine. Self ID’ing as x when one is y is not going to benefit the patient.
Self ID does not change one’s biology. Your argument is simply silly. Stupid even.
Can we blame Harry Potter for this ?
They see him Rowling, shaken that a….
Allowing people to self-id as the gender that matches their gender dysphoria seems like literally the very least that could be done to help them and acknowledge them, and witholding that right is an act of such petty meanness and spite it’s hard to believe oh no, wait, it’s not hard to believe at all.
Sure Nigel, kids and adults who want to be able to go to the toilet or the pool or compete in sports, etc. and have sex segregated privacy and fair competition do so out of spite…
Are you that convinced you and the TRAs are not the spiteful ones in fairness…. Clearly you are locked into this anti-science ideological postmodernist echo chamber. Deluded by the ideology even… Pitiful…
WRONG- the self-ID crew do not accept that you need to have gender dysphoria in order to be Trans- that is the whole point?
Hard to see how anyone who would exclude trans girls from girl’s toilets and expose them to danger by forcing them to use the boys’ isn’t operating out of anything but hatred.
Yeah, SOQ, given the current atmosphere I can see people lining up to claim to be trans when they are not.
Cross-Dresser
Drag King
Drag Queen
Gender Fluid
Nonconforming
Non-binary
Genderqueer
Intersex
and this list goes on and on.
NONE of which are transgender and most of which look and act exactly the same as before- but all claim to be Trans?
Self-ID means I can wake up tomorrow morning and declare that I am a woman- I don’t even have to shave my 7 day facial hair growth.
That is not advancing the cause of gay people and it is most definitely not advancing the cause of REAL transgenders.
All of those have been around forever, it’s just that some of them have recently acquired names. If you’re arguing against inclusivity in a community that share certain traits, well, go ahead, but it’s hardly the end of the bloody world.
If a man decides to declare himself a woman even though they aren’t trans – that’s not the fault of trans people. That’s a problem with non-trans men. Creating bogeymen to scare people with isn’t helping anyone, at all.
Forever? LOL Drag maybe but no most have not and they are coming up with new ones all the time. It’s just silly and IMO very disrespectful when they try to speak on behalf of people who really are transgender.
You can now be fully a transitioned transgender AND be transphobic according to these militant ejits.
Self ID does nothing for transgender people Nigel- they still have to go through the same hoops before transitioning. It does however, allow any individual the right to identify as the opposite gender without ever any intention of even dressing as such- which is why some transgender people also object to it.
This is what the parody woke account https://twitter.com/JarvisDupont is about. A ‘woman’ with a beard who gets annoyed when lesbians reject ‘her’ advances.
Oh, I bet there are some transgender people who object. But not most. Such a simple little thing to deny them out of, what, spite? Fear? Yeah, the image of a ‘woman with a beard’ demanding lesbians accept their advances seems like the perfect parody of that fear and spite.
“But not most” is a claim based on what exactly? The volume of noise made by activists? It’d be ridiculous if that is it, if not, please do elaborate the basis of such a claim.
The teenage girl, 13, that one her case to be able to go to a bathroom that is for girls….. She fought for that out of “spite” did she?
You’re so ridiculous at this point, it beggars belief.
They object because they find it offensive to who and what they are?
Any transgender I know fully accept they have gender dysphoria and their goal is to transition their body to as close to their internal gender as they can get. That is both physically and emotionally a long and sometimes painful journey, which any decent person should appreciate.
Which is very different to this new breed with twenty odd labels and pronouns which would take a week to memorize who in the main have no intention of ever actually doing anything about changing their gender.
If ‘some’ object it seems a safe assumption that ‘most’ do not.
So, what, she wanted to exclude trans girls? That does sound spiteful, actually.
SOQ – so, out of spite for the ‘new breed.’ Got it.
Sex rights and wanting them maintained is spiteful….
Have you any idea how misogynist you are. I doubt it…
Not sure such an entrenched and committed anti-feminist as yourself would know misogyny if it came up and told you to get in the kitchen and make it a sandwich.
Rallying against the misandry entrenched in some feminist theory and practice is something I will never be ashamed of. There are also many feminists who argue as I do, people who believe in genuine equality.
No Nigel you’ve got nothing.
If you can’t be bothered finding out how many different categories there now are under the Trans Umbrella- I suggest you stop trowing insults around just because it doesn’t suit your limited knowledge on the subject.
Do you even know anyone who is transgender?
Annoyance with people having a multiplicity of categories isn’t going to win any sympathy from me and is no justification for anything, frankly, other than telling the kids to get off your lawn. Yes, I know a number of trans people, young and old. I also know a number of people who find all those sub-categories that rile you up useful for exploring their own sexual identity, too, and gaining confidence from it. In a live and let live world we’d leave them to it and refrain from mockery and contempt.
I don’t think SOQ, and I know I, would be happy to leave them to it. But they don’t leaa e it there when demands for Self ID tto be given equal access to sex segregated spaces.
You’re talking absolute nonsense at this point.
^I do think SOQ… that should be.
…very good Nigel…not often you provide the laughs but that misogyny line was excellent…
Exactly, Clamps, you’re an absolute sucker for any revisionist reactionary anti-feminist anti-trans nonsense that comes along.
“revisionist”? There’s not hi g revisionist about it.
Again, you’re just throwing any old accusation out at this point. You are being ridiculous.
Trans people have had access to sex-segregated spaces since forever. Forcing them out of them puts them at risk of their lives, not to mention exposing women who appear androgynous or ‘mannish’ to harassment. It would be repressive and transphobic (and misogynist – nobody seems to give a flying feck about trans men using male spaces) and an absolute triumph for the hard-core religious right.
Again, you are equating self ID as trans. See SOQ’s previous comment on that silliness.
Self ID’ing persons have not had access since forever to sex segregated spaces.
Where the heck did you pull that one out of?
Seriously I’d love to hear a response to that.
No, i said I think trans people should have the right to self-id, and trans people have had access to sex-segregated spaces forever, if you’re not going to read my comments you should probably go wander off and shout at cows about how all feminists hate men or whatever it is.
Trans persons who have transitioned are not affected by the abandonment of Self ID.
You are still talking nonsense.
Tasmania made the recording of gender optional on birth certs:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-10/birth-certificate-gender-laws-pass-in-tasmania/10989170
Tassie was the last Aussie state to leglise homosexuality. They are leading the way on this. Good on them.
I am with Nigel on this (as I seem to be on everything he comments on).
That’s fine, I’m talking about sex.
… all the good things, and the bad things, that may be?
:0)
There is not a set correlation between the trans issue and gay rights. Some countries which are are deeply homophobic like Iran and Pakistan have a much less repressive view of trans people.
+1
In Iran gay men and women are forced to transition.
Just to check, but you do realise that such a barbaric practice would have absolutely nothing to do with trans people, right?
Yes. Follow the comment thread, you’ll see why the comment was made. Go straight to SOQ’s.
This is the second time I’ve seen the two of you bring this up in the context of anti-trans comments, as if it’s a critique of trans people rather than the regimes. Perhaps you should be careful to distinguish it from your other, ant-trans, comments, or they might all blend together.
Name one comment I’ve made that is anti-trans… Or that SOQ has made….
Every comment you have made here is in approval and support of two anti-trans measures.
You’re clearly not reading who has been fighting to stop this, as per my original link, and SOQs further comments, all of which are trans arguments by trans people.
Oh, so trans people are greeting these measures with open arms? They’re delighted and fully supportive? All of them? Most of them? Some of them? A handful? Absolutely no pushback from trans people at all? Along with a few gay men like SOQ who despise the ‘new breed?’
No one said all of them, but hey, you do you, you do your silly. No one will ever take that from you.
Yes, you were very vague about the degree of support or opposition from trans people, that’s literally why I was asking.
Well at the moment there *seems* to be way more hate and repression directed towards trans in the UK and the US, and maybe even here, than towards lgb, that’s no reason not to keep them linked, out of solidarity if out of nothing else.
Many gay men and women in the UK have said they’ve had enough of the homophobic activism from TRAs and many have decided enough is enough and are splitting from the T. See what’s happening re Stonewall UK for example.
‘Many.’ Yeah, sure. Using transphobia to split the lgbt movement was a genius idea, wherever it came from, and it might even work.
It was TRA homophobia that lead to the split. Do keep up.
That’s because they can no longer discriminate against the LGB part of the acronym, but the T part can be treated like a black person in 1950s America and forced to use a different bathroom to their “betters”.
Bullpoo, that’s a ridiculous equivocation.
Damn autocorrect… ^equivalence
And people who are trans AND black seem to have it incredibly bad, but yeah, it’s great news that they can soon be excluded from the few safe places thay can currently go.
WTF are you on now…. What places are they, Self ID persons, being excluded from that they already could go to?
Clampers, there hasn’t been a split. A few transphobic lgbs or whatever dropping the t do not a split make. A splinter, maybe. A token, almost, one might say.
One of the main fou ders of Stonewall has broken away… and set up a separate group that isn’t homophobic. You just ignore that if you so desire.
So, are the people who didn’t break away all homophobes then?
Here, educate yourself on the split. This is an interview with Simon Fanshawe before the breakaway org was set up…
https://www.holyrood.com/inside-politics/view,cofounder-of-stonewall-calls-for-calm_14648.htm
In a topsy turvy world it’s good to some pigeons back on the front page of the Star. Dead, it has to be said, and in tragic circumstances, so we can feel sad for them.
Maybe ‘ Herself ‘ was getting to old to cleaning out the loft .
Some light show last night Clampers?
… lightning isn’t unique to Wexfard and Waaherford you know!
Well, I never experienced anything like it to be honest.
Today in 1982 Argentine forces in the Falklands surrendered to British forces.
Maggie Thatcher’s stunning gamble to send a naval task force around the world ended the Falklands War in just 10 weeks and put the jumped-up dictator Galtieri back in his box.
I shall be raising a glass to the 255 British military personnel who lost their lives and the 649 mainly conscripted Argies who paid an equally heavy price for their General’s foolishness.
Today fishing and oil exploration is proving highly lucrative to the local economy and Falklanders have consistently and overwhelmingly voted to remain party of Blighty.
Huzzah !
One last spasm of empire.
Think of the Falklands as Ireland’s Rockall.
Oh,hang on minute,it’s not …
Think of Rockall as the British Emprie.
Think of Rockall as another insignficant rock in the British Isles.
Like Ireland.
I never think of the British Isles at all.
Its a settler colony, at that time with less than 2,000 people, cost the Brits over 2 Billion,if you’d simply given them 1 million each you’d have been a lot better off.The real ‘cost’ was Iraq as you owed the yanks for the intel and air support,any sign that aircraft carrier….
That war also gave voice to the nasty, intolerant British nationalism that has you today alone, isolated,broke and facing into the abyss.
I hear the American troops have been very grateful over the years for the chance to stretch their legs and have a crafty fag at Shannon Airport.
….one day my prince will…
“Prince Andrew yet again sought to falsely portray himself to the public as eager and willing to co-operate. The prince has not given an interview to federal authorities, has repeatedly declined our request to schedule such an interview, and informed us unequivocally that he would not come in for such an interview,” Geoffrey Berman told the newspaper.”
https://nypost.com/2020/06/13/prince-andrew-calls-infamous-bbc-interview-source-of-regret-ins
Makes you wonder if there is anything in his former navy career being managed similarly by Prince Andrew and the family business at the palace
Or is it just me
….me sweat-im not sweating, you are….
“There’s a slight problem with, with, with, with the sweating,” Andrew then told the BBC’s Emily Maitlis. “Because I have a peculiar medical condition, which is that I don’t sweat, or I didn’t sweat at the time … because I had suffered what I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War when I was shot at.”
https://nypost.com/2020/06/13/prince-andrew-calls-infamous-bbc-interview-source-of-regret-insider/
Did you see the paedophile scandal about Uncle Mount Batten and the Kincora Boys Home and how it was used by the British State to spy on/recruit operatives for the State?
It’s a real horror house of abuse and should be well documented by this stage. Why not I wonder?
@Nigel will you be tuning into this on the BBC? ;)
Still waiting on the evidence of Novichok being used to be sent to the European governments that requested it btw.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52962640
For anyone who hasn’t been following the Skripal affair, the Brits have attempted to use a false flag operation on their own people, in their own country, to justify an attack on Russian and Syrian forces in Syria, back in 2018 similar to the way the White Helmets were used in Syria since 2012.
I personally can’t wait until all the dots are joined and the truth is given the light of day.
There are only a few working on it, but they are very committed and the scandal will be fully exposed eventually.
..when was this the 1950’s or the 60’s its June 2020 – your like that Japanese soldier who hid in the jungle for 40 years after WW2 fighting for his emperor…
“The two old men apparently declared they were soldiers, and the story they told when they emerged from the dense jungle of a Philippine island was yesterday the talk of the nation they claimed to have fought for.
According to reports, the Japanese men, who are both in their 80s, said they had been hiding on the island of Mindanao, which is 600 miles from Manila, since before the end of the second world war.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/may/28/secondworldwar.japan
Pedo’s,murdering,kneecappings,get some fresh air find some spirituality man,smoke some great weed but chill the F out and stay as far away as you can from my posts, going for a shower now after interacting…
Dear Admin,
Can you please explain to the most vile and ABUSIVE poster here on Broadsheet that because there are subtle, not so obvious editing biases, as some posters are on longer naughty steps than others, that sometimes the thread directory does not branch in real time, but chronologically.
My comment was in response to V’s comment.
Yours had not appeared on here when I posted.
I have absolutely no intention of ever communicating with a creepy, disgusting, abusive, nationalist and faux-republican like you unless I have to, like now for instance.
…oh doesn’t look like she’s responding either, and yeah good luck with the complaints dept. with your contributions on here its sure to be a top priority, still can’t figure out why SF booted you out….
The flumbling flubbering haystack may yet have is own Churchill experience
His own Perfect Storm
No better lad ಠ_ಠ
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-colonialism-africa-british-empire-slavery-a9564541.html?jwsource=cl
Would this be the 80 seat majority-holding and 162 seats ahead of Labour and still leading them in the polls flubbering haystack ?
Boris is box office.
He’ll wipe the floor with Max Headroom in four years time
Looking at the state of ye yesterday I’m not sure they’ll know how to hold the pencil
Or mistake the polling booth for a urinal
Assuming yere still registered to vote in Britain
And not Britian
(◔‿◔)
Were you out weeweeing on monuments and seig heiling in London with the rest of the antiantifa?
…a few more Exocets and the Falklands would have been consigned to history…they may yet be…Viva Malvinas…
I see your Exocets and raise you a nuclear sub.
Amazing the fear instilled with one of them up your jacksie…
Aye, but where will you park the nuclear sub when Scotland jettisons the UK?
Charger, please, no descriptions of your love life.
Interestingly the defeat of Galtieri in the Falklands led directly to the fall of the military junta and the restoration of democracy in Argentina.
I love their steaks too.
…Thatcher was a true liberator…I knew there had to be some grand plan when she torpedoed the Belgrano and killed all those sea scouts…
I look forward to seeing how your free trade agreements with South American countries go. Have a read of this when you are tired from revelling in your ignorance:
https://medium.com/@write_12958/the-crimes-of-winston-churchill-c5e3ecb229b3
public prefer Leo ? did I miss another vote, what a load of toss
862 people surveyed. Online Poll. As accurate as any of the B&A or Red C polls then. Then again, it’s a poll asking preferences between two people. Note that 35% couldn’t give a duck.
It’s like asking a person on death row what method of death they’d like. Electrocution or injection. Two choices, the same result One may be less painful to put up with.
Does anyone believe that there in the Sunday Times
’bout the Irish Government asking the UK & US for dig out with Kinihan
I don’t
Big time boxing sounds like the home ground of Money Laundering to me, and this lad didn’t just walk straight up to its top table and take a seat
It’ll be AMl/CTF legislation that’ll deal with that lad when his time comes
Fake outrage all over the shop on this new business direction for the Kinihan empire
I see the “Irish” Mail on Sunday have yet another British Royal Family photo on their front page. They really are more like an English paper now. They are showing minimal support of Irish writers, photographers, etc.
You must feel like posting this same comment every Sunday is some sort of duty.
No, I just find it extraordinary that a so called Irish paper keeps putting pictures of members of the British Royal Family on its front pages i.e. Megan Markle, Prince Harry, Kate Middleton, etc. They even had Boris Johnson with his new child as lead photo! Check back through their front pages (easy to do on the Internet nowadays) Irish pictures are few and far between. Do you not think this is odd, for an Irish paper?
Perhaps if you bought the newspaper instead of relying on free Irish content on the internet then the Mail might employ more Irish journalists to bring you more Irish stories?Journalism doesn’t come cheap.
The bean savage ‘journalists’ must write their articles on the back of their Little Chef receipts.
The Daily Mail Group made profits of £145million on revenues of £1.4billion last year.
I wouldn’t worry about them.
As I said I did buy it in the past, when there was mostly Irish content. The circulation figures last month they sold around 22,000 per day, if you take out the Saturday sales they sell 20,000 a day. They sold 50,000+ up until recently. Why have their sales collapsed? Not having much Irish content is largely the reason.
Personally, I have no interest whatsoever in Megan Markle. She’s just an attention seeker in my opinion. Don’t know why MOS seem obsessed with writing stories on her. Non event.
They hate her because she’s an uppity black woman… and she’s sueing them.
Excellent Giggidy – your comment cheered me up ,”the nasty piece of work” will take the needle no doubt.
Another CoVid-19 outbreak (Beijing) in the proximity of meat, or in this case fish. Given the high levels of this thing in meat processing plants across the world, one has to wonder if there is a connection.
Is diet a factor in its transmission?
“public prefer varadkar to lead coalition” – but of course ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hi Rob, can you imagine the outcry if SF had murdered all those lovely grandparents,who died alone,by all accounts its a horrific death-for me as a man of faith the govt denying my grandfather the right to practice his religion and be surrounded by his family would be hard get over……not so sure when the full story of yet another murdering spree by FG is told if Leo will be held in such high esteem….
A Government of “every man for themselves” lads
And not for the best interests of the Country
Do you think there would have been zero deaths among elderly population if SF were in charge; SF are currently in government in N.I, how is the death rate looking up there?
Typical FG response so its a league table now is it-how is such and such doing,on a Sunday too when most Irish people are observing and the families of these murdered by FG’s negligence and misallocation of resources are mourning.
The families of these murder victims deserve the same compassion and empathy as you have shown over many many posts for the victims of the IRA in the 1970’s,oh right its not political convenient,no cheap points score huh….
The mere fact that you would compare a government doing their level-best (though not always succeeding) against a deadly virus, to SF/IRA’s murdering innocents in cold-blood, only serves to show how morally-bankrupt you are as a person.
“Care Assistant reveals Criminal Neglect At Dublin Nursing Home”
-residents abandonded,left without food and water
-up to 75% of death avoidable
-residents left in inhumane conditions
-7 staff sacked after raising concerns
-HSE/HIQA Cover-up
Harrowing listen Rob,your in no position to judge ‘level best’ its way way too early to make that judgement,just listen to this..morally bankrupt indeed and there are many ‘whistleblowers’ coming forward.
https://twitter.com/realJosiahBurke/status/1271516193644519432?s=20
There isn’t a Government in the North. There’s an Assembly. The North is governed by Westminster.
Tautology – they can still enact legislation (when they decide to turn up, that is). You know, like when SF voted to cut nurses’ salaries when Michelle O’Neill was minister for health.
Again – NI is governed by Westminster. The Assembly has to enact Westminster’s legislation. Failure to do so would result in the assembly being disbanded. (You know, the self same non-Assembly you were gloating about?)
Westminster also finances NI. SF or DUP have no part to play, apart from working within the constraints of Westminster, which holds the purse strings, and decides the pay levels for its public servants.
But you know all of that – I’ve outlined it many times to you, and to Cian, when you try the diversionary tactic.
So that’s why FG shipped those scared lonely fearful loved grandparents off to die alone,denying them their rights to practice their religion,cause SF cut nurses in NI-more whatabout…last rites please I’m observant nah sorry nana,FG says you can’t have any visitors….but I may go hell ….make sure you thank Leo when you get there nana….
They were not given the last rites to stop the spread of a virus, not for the craic. I’d say the 10 workers the the PIRA murdered in cold blood at Kingsmill because they were Protestants probably felt that they weren’t allowed to practice their religion, either,
Was waiting for that Rob. You just can’t help yourself. Even MLAL gave up the byelines after Johnny pointed out the stupidity.
There is a fact that over the past 3 months, FG (Harris, Varadkar, etc) made conscious decisions to play God and end people’s lives. That’s history. Very recent history. And you’re commending that. Think about that.
@GiggidyGoo – I know, that’s your great get-out-of-jail card for anything related to SF abysmal record of legislating.
How can you then, on the one hand, blame the DUP for the RHI scandal if the Assembly has no autonomy and only goes through the motions enacting the will of Westminster, and at the same time let SF off the hook for all of their myriad failures in N. Ireland?
also @GiggidyGoo – political parties that actually go into government (rather than sit on the sidelines and sulk for three years) actually are faced with very difficult decisions, which will end up either saving or costing lives in the short run or the long run, depending if they get it right or wrong.
Johnny’s (and now your) equivocation of this with SF/PIRA’s murdering people and dumping them in shallow graves is as crass as it is idiotic.
You must be suffering from over exposure to the sun.
The DUP – Foster at the helm – were pulled up for the Cash For Ash scandal. I’m not surprised of course that the likes of you would be prepared to turn a blind eye to it. That’s exactly how FFG works. And the usual then is the ‘look over there’ line.
And yes, I have to keep repeating so that your lies and diversions are shown up. You haven’t discounted it by the way.
You’re commending, again, Varadkar and Harris for taking decisions like forcing nursing homes to re-open. Sure why not? That’s the FG way. No surprise there.
Sure Noonan hounding of Bridget McCole pales into insignificance doesn’t it?
And despite your other attempt to divert, I didn’t bring the IRA into the discussion. That’s your hobby horse. It’s your go-to safe zone when you’re at a dead end.
As I’ve pointed out to you on several occasions, politicians from both the DUP and SF lobbied for the RHI scheme’s extension, so I’m not sure that it’s the ace-in-the-hole that you seem to think it is…
Enough diversion Rob. The discussion isn’t about Northern Ireland. If that’s something you want to pursue, there’s always The Journal. You’ll be greeted with open arms there.
:)
When faced a point that he can’t answer, “the discussion isn’t about Northern Ireland”… bless your heart, you’ll get the hang of it someday.
Are you really – really – that dense Rob? Really? Diversion isn’t working Rob. Cut your losses.
Don’t worry GG, I accept your conceding with the good grace with which is was offered.
“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.”
Nothing as bad as a fool who doesn’t realize he’s a fool. Keep up the good work Rob. FG will always need apologists.
That’s it, you keep fighting the good fight, GG – Uncle Gerry is very proud of you.
It’s like being asked if you’d prefer genital herpes to syphillis. Toryboy V Meehole? That’s not a choice, that’s a dilemma.
That was very droll :)
The figure is that 28.6% who expressed a preference, was for Varadkar. 71.4% didn’t. I’m surprised Cian wasn’t on posting that.
i.e. 35% didn’t give an opinion which means that Varadkar got 44% of 65% which is 28.6% of 100%.
Even worse for Mehole, as his equates to 11.7%. Or 88.3% didn’t express a preference for him.
Nothing for either to celebrate if 71.4% don’t want Varadkar, and 88.3% don’t want Mehole.
“Nothing for either to celebrate if 71.4% don’t want Varadkar, and 88.3% don’t want Mehole.
That’s funny, because I seem you remember you being near-apoplectic at the notion of Mary Lou not being Taoiseach at a time when 75% of the electorate apparently didn’t want her in that position.
No – I was answering your own ‘she only got 25%’ by pointing out to you that FF got 25% too, and FG got less. Short term memory loss Rob?
The difference here of course is that my figures above relate to just two people and the attempted spin put on it.
Two deadbeats thinking that they have something to offer, that’s Leo and Mehole.
Ffs can we please get some sort of moratorium on this constant squabbling between the Clampers/SOQ tagteam and Nigel, its become tedious beyond belief.
-what RP…here’s an extremely graphic and detailed discussion on the STD that afflicted Weinstein and the effects it had on his genitila perfect for any Sunday lunch:)
This is Graydon Carter’s new gig-founded SPY and is somewhat of a legend in NY publishing circles,last spot was editor at VF-he also own The Beatrice Inn and The Monkey Bar where all the media darlings hang-its actually quite a decent piece.
https://airmail.news/issues/2020-6-13/the-making-of-a-predator
That’s the Broadsheet Weekend ‘stadium’ event realPo
Almost since it’s launch
They prep all week for it
Can’t you tell
Oh look at you- sneering again.
Tell me, did you study it- or does it just come naturally?
if ever there was a case of the pot calling the kettle black
Ya never lost it Same’oh
An’ the feicin’ nerve of you calling me anything
LOL